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Yeah, I dunno of a specific Styx song. Just the bombastic, wanna-be-epic martiality of it.
The outro of 'Lady' was one I thought of too, but I got stuck on the 'Bolero' rhythm of that, which is not what 'Flakes' does at all. It's pedestrian/martial step is just right for my tastes. So funny. And the swooping-whine of the geetar - hahahhahaha.

Yeah lots of '70's stuff to make fun of.
Boston's 'More Than A Feeling' sounds like Louie Louie with an extra note... and lots of metallic guitar all over it:
'dit-dit-dit
dit-dit
dit-dit-dit
dit-dit'
>repeat<

Worst tune that FZ released?

The Clap

nothing against Aynsley Dunbar...

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the clap was all zappa!

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Who's this dude with his hair straight back?
His new white socks, 'n his pants all black
His T-shirts rolled His watch is gold
A '55 Chevy that his brother just stoled

yes, and devoid of a tune that I can hear, unlike Messer Dunbar a lot of the time and other things that I've heard Frank do with percussion...


hi manichispanic!!

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Bratwurst

These Best and Worst Podiums are as preposterous as ever.
There has been some fairly interesting dialog on some compositions here
and it's a shame at times it all revolves around Best & Worst Ideologies
of modern pinpointed worthlessness.
Eat The Truck & Driver & His Gloves

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FZ "Read It And Weep"
April 17,1981

Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.

...selling Trendy bratwurst --
.......................................then giving him the clap -

preposterous -- adj. Contrary to nature, reason, or common sense.

It's human nature to rank items according to like and dislike. Why do you think we have so many museums and award shows? We all have preferences and enjoy comparing/contrasting them with those of other people.

It's fine if you don't like Best/Worst lists, but choose another adjective, because you are way off the mark with the one you're currently abusing ad infinitum.

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Sorry to disappoint you.
I had thought of a starting a thread discussing Captain Beefheart's
harmonica solo on Bongo Fury or one about Sleep Dirt, Orchestral Favourites and Studio Tan
as unusual releases, but since I am a dedicated Zappa music fan, but don't like
some of his tunes, I thought it might be more interesting to know what other tunes
people don't enjoy from his released catalogue.

Sex, Stick Together, Jazz Discharge Party Hats, Luigi and the Wise Guys, Tengo Na Minchia Tanta, Valley Girl

Briefcase Boogie is really disturbing I think, not the worst, just disturbing...

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Wait till you see it in Hustler - ...

thing-fish

Sex is a funny song. Maybe YOU could use a protein surprise

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Sorry, I did an edit - it must read thing HYPHEN fish, of course...Good God, that's inexcusable

Could be used for erotic gratification

To each his or her own... I'll stick with Stick It Out and some others...

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"Charva"

Oh come on!
Charva is great fun-I used to play it for my dad and even he smirked!

'Cocaine Decisions' always bored the shit out of me. Dull music.

Agreed about Cocaine Decisions... Nothing really going on, but Charva is fucking great!

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It's human nature to act like a bunch of pedestrians or dilate their mind beyond what the majority walk the beat to.
I have always thought Zappa fans were a bit more intellectual
than the pedestrian view of looking at or ranking art in some best and worse ideology.

I was interviewed by MTV on 10/31/81 for a promo spot for the Zappa Halloween Show.
They had asked me what my favorite song was and if I thought FZ would play it that night.
I told them that Zappa fans did not come to hear favorite songs but that I could sing them one.
I sung & conducted a gathering of NYC finest crazy type persons to the German Verse of Stick It Out.

Now that is one example of how art affects Zappa fans.
100 Zappa fanatics under the marquee of the Palladium singing Stick It Out.
Far more of an artistic statement than some list of best and worse.

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FZ "Read It And Weep"
April 17,1981

Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.

Yeah, I've never been big on Cocaine Decisions either. The "I don't want to know..." part is kind of catchy, but the rest is pretty dull. It's way too sterile sounding to even work as a typical blues song for me, and I've always hated that squeaky 80s harmonica sound.

Must be a real disappointment to you to find out Zappa fans are just plain folks who merely dance to a different drummer (or composer/guitarist) than most.

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Remember I have been listening to Zappa since 1967.
I have had my share of intellectual conversations with many Zappa fans over the years
and the dialog time and time again was how FZ was years ahead of his time
that and he was a composer more so than the Best Rock Category.
It was not until all these school yard games at this newsgroup came about
that brought out this best and worse ideology crap.

Even if you look at ARF The Home Of Frank Zappa Heritage Studies.
Not that I take out some blanket of where I agree or disagree with any comment on any particular song
but when you go through all the dialog that people E-Mail in and what gets chosen to be used the
dialog has little to nothing to do with Best & Worse. Does the editor there have an agenda to dissolve any such commentary or
is it just that the people who wrote and the editor is a bit more intellectual than boxing the art into best and worse lists.

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Trendmonger's Moment Of Clarity

FZ "Read It And Weep"
April 17,1981

Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.

Must be just your neighbourhood. I've been buying Zappa's output since 1971, and most of the fans I've met are no different (apart from musical likes) than everybody else. I say most, because some were rather...odd (if not downright scary).

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'Once upon a time, it was in Albuquerque, New Mexico ...'

Tra la la turn it off. I don't like this style anyway. I'm pretty sure I remember this used to make me laugh but the joke wore a bit thin on me a long time ago (unlike Billy The Mountain which has been making me giggle for donkeys).

Hey Trendmonger, I appreciate what your saying and I'm not saying The Jazz Discharge Party Hats is a BAD song, it's just that it doesn't do it for me and here's an opportunity for me to say so to people who recognise what the hell I'm talking about. Now be honest, when you have had a hard, stressful day at work and you pop on a Zappa record and plop down in a comfy armchair, which song/tune more than any other will wrench you out of that comfort to make you move that needle??

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Hey Trendy, if you are so opposed to so-called best/worst ideologies, then why were you so happy when ZPZ won a Grammy?

And I agree with Doug. There are all kinds of Zappa fans: hardcore, casual, smart, dumb, sensitive, boorish, friendly, and some I've met who are just plain assholes. Just because FZ was a genius doesn't mean that all of his fans are too.

FZ was anti-academia, anyway, so why place so much emphasis on so-called "critical analysis"? He called what he did "entertainment" for a reason. FZ knew the score. Enjoy it or don't -- no big deal.

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That's only a matter of personal taste but there are parts of the melody lines in THE RADIO IS BROKEN and
SHIP ARRIVING TOO LATE i can't stand.
Very annoying for SATLTSTDW because I love it otherwise.
I haven't studied it but it may be some specific intervals i can't bear, maybe an accomplished musician from
this forum can figure it out.
I also get this disturbing feeling (but less so) listening to THE DANGEROUS KITCHEN.

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Very well said

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