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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:24 am 
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Nothing wrong with CD either,any recording in history can be fucked up with a bad remix CD or vinyl so what's your point.

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Hi,

I'm down to about 2K LP's now ... and looking to bring it down to about 1K or so before I croak! :roll:

All in all, I'm happy that vinyl is in the past, but not happy that digital is still in its infancy and that digital, is still not as well recorded and with as much detail as the old stuff used to be. Nowadays, the mastering and some of the stuff done on digital, is killing the recording even more and taking out the real person within the music ... a personality quirk that used to be visible before that is being taken out.

All in all, vinyl was a product of its time ... after that the love sign went plastic and then went somewhere else and then died and disappeared. The idea that the record/LP thing was warmer is not true, anymore than you and I saying that the girls 40 years ago tasted different than 30 years ago or today ... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

We're basically comparing apples to oranges ... and when people decide to warm up their digintal recording instead of being lazy, the recordings will get warmer and better ... but right now, there are way too many way too cheaply recorded and mastered to make the choice and different worth the discussion!


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I'm down to about 2K LP's now ... and looking to bring it down to about 1K or so before I croak! :roll:
Good LUCK :D

All in all, I'm happy that vinyl is in the past, but not happy that digital is still in its infancy and that digital, is still not as well recorded and with as much detail as the old stuff used to be.
You must be taking the piss "not well recorded" recorded sorted before Playback Which if Fuck Unbelievable :arrow:

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Patents Filed for ‘High Definition Vinyl’ Technology

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/03/15/high-definition-vinyl-will-soon-become-a-reality/

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I enjoyed 2 main things about vinyl, the artwork being 12" in size and I used to love coloured vinyl in all it's different shades.
I don't miss the scratches and stylus worries and dusting and keeping them out of the sunlight for fear of warping and all the extra space they take up.
CDs are great, they're small and easily capable of holding a double album, some are produced in nice ways too but I'm always happy with a CD package if it has at least an 8 page insert (preferably more), I love my 2012 remaster of Uncle Meat as it has a nice booklet and a poster, some of the remasters could do with a bit more effort in packaging "Waka Jawaka" comes to mind as does "Apostrophe", I find a single 4 page insert quite unsatisfying and would love to see more info and pictures included but hey! the music is the main thing and I think CDs sound fantastic.


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Zank Frappa wrote:
but hey! the music is the main thing and I think CDs sound fantastic.
And that's precisely why the gods invented Spotify.
You can burn your CDs now ... Or give 'em to me including all other things of the past you don't need anymore.


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Maroual wrote:
Zank Frappa wrote:
but hey! the music is the main thing and I think CDs sound fantastic.
And that's precisely why the gods invented Spotify.
You can burn your CDs now ... Or give 'em to me including all other things of the past you don't need anymore.

I haven't got into the Spotify thing yet! I sell CDs quite often though on Discogs and use the funds to get more CDs to burn to my iTunes, a hobby rather than a business.


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Zank Frappa wrote:
I enjoyed 2 main things about vinyl, the artwork being 12" in size and I used to love coloured vinyl in all it's different shades.
I don't miss the scratches and stylus worries and dusting and keeping them out of the sunlight for fear of warping and all the extra space they take up.
CDs are great, they're small and easily capable of holding a double album, some are produced in nice ways too but I'm always happy with a CD package if it has at least an 8 page insert (preferably more), I love my 2012 remaster of Uncle Meat as it has a nice booklet and a poster, some of the remasters could do with a bit more effort in packaging "Waka Jawaka" comes to mind as does "Apostrophe", I find a single 4 page insert quite unsatisfying and would love to see more info and pictures included but hey! the music is the main thing and I think CDs sound fantastic.




I agree...the whole artwork thing, to me is the biggest trade off..but you can find stuff online and blow it up...

Way back when I was taking recording classes, we had a night at my prof's house for beers, and listening. His premise was to go over "formats" using one song from one "album"...(Steely Dan, the song Aja) He played everything he had, vinyl, reel to reel (3.25 & 7.5ips), 8-track, cassette, CD, DAT, PCM F-1. About the only thing that really sucked was the 8-track, cassette, and 3.25 reel version. Vinyl sounded good...but you heard the occasional pop. 7.5ips reel sounded pretty good. but of course, the digital all sounded amazing... someone commented on the "sound" of vinyl compared to the digital, and his reply was "if you like vinyl, push your bass a bit" And proceeded to tell us about the RIAA Amp that's in stereo's, and the main reason that you have a specific jack for your turntable, as opposed to everything else. That amp was so that you could add back the bass that they had to remove because of the grooves on an album...that amp gives albums that "DEEP WARM SOUND" that we all got used to back in the day, and that's what's making people love vinyl today!

I just remember when I got my first CD way way back, and realized that it was so easy to listen to something, if you didn't like a song, you just hit next, if you wanted to hear it again hit back...didn't need to prep a CD, if you wanted to listen to it in your car, just put it in your car (if you had a cd player...I did in 1988)(main reason I bought that car!) but you didn't need to get the album out...get your cassette deck hooked up, and record it!


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Zank Frappa wrote:
I enjoyed 2 main things about vinyl, the artwork being 12" in size and I used to love coloured vinyl in all it's different shades.
I don't miss the scratches and stylus worries and dusting and keeping them out of the sunlight for fear of warping and all the extra space they take up.
CDs are great, they're small and easily capable of holding a double album, some are produced in nice ways too but I'm always happy with a CD package if it has at least an 8 page insert (preferably more), I love my 2012 remaster of Uncle Meat as it has a nice booklet and a poster, some of the remasters could do with a bit more effort in packaging "Waka Jawaka" comes to mind as does "Apostrophe", I find a single 4 page insert quite unsatisfying and would love to see more info and pictures included but hey! the music is the main thing and I think CDs sound fantastic.




I agree...the whole artwork thing, to me is the biggest trade off..but you can find stuff online and blow it up...

Way back when I was taking recording classes, we had a night at my prof's house for beers, and listening. His premise was to go over "formats" using one song from one "album"...(Steely Dan, the song Aja) He played everything he had, vinyl, reel to reel (3.25 & 7.5ips), 8-track, cassette, CD, DAT, PCM F-1. About the only thing that really sucked was the 8-track, cassette, and 3.25 reel version. Vinyl sounded good...but you heard the occasional pop. 7.5ips reel sounded pretty good. but of course, the digital all sounded amazing... someone commented on the "sound" of vinyl compared to the digital, and his reply was "if you like vinyl, push your bass a bit" And proceeded to tell us about the RIAA Amp that's in stereo's, and the main reason that you have a specific jack for your turntable, as opposed to everything else. That amp was so that you could add back the bass that they had to remove because of the grooves on an album...that amp gives albums that "DEEP WARM SOUND" that we all got used to back in the day, and that's what's making people love vinyl today!

I just remember when I got my first CD way way back, and realized that it was so easy to listen to something, if you didn't like a song, you just hit next, if you wanted to hear it again hit back...didn't need to prep a CD, if you wanted to listen to it in your car, just put it in your car (if you had a cd player...I did in 1988)(main reason I bought that car!) but you didn't need to get the album out...get your cassette deck hooked up, and record it!


Yeah! I don't think I could ever go back to vinyl as CDs just sound so good with no "clicks or pops" and as you said the ease and convenience of listening to them makes it very desirable.
Even the artwork is often excellent with CDs, if you get a 24 - 36 (or more) page booklet and an extra CD of bonus stuff like a lot of bands seem to be doing these days you end up with more artwork than a 12" had anyway, plus a write up and more photos. I do use ALAC downloads and find them perfectly alright especially on headphones. I think vinyl will eventually die out except for specialist collectors, digital is improving all the time so it's definitely the way to go as far as I'm concerned, even if they never quite master the "Deep Warm Sound" (I bet they will though)


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I wish people would do more about vinyl recycling, at least in this neck of the woods. During WW2 here, you could only buy a new record if you handed in an old record first, that would be melted down. Dad and I often visit flea markets and it has happened quite a number of times we got boxes of vinyl records that weren't being used anymore. It's often hardly worth to take a look at the vinyl boxes in second-handers since they all contain Nana Moskouri records. And that other stuff you don't want to touch with a ten foot pole.

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I wish people would do more about vinyl recycling, at least in this neck of the woods. During WW2 here, you could only buy a new record if you handed in an old record first, that would be melted down. Dad and I often visit flea markets and it has happened quite a number of times we got boxes of vinyl records that weren't being used anymore. It's often hardly worth to take a look at the vinyl boxes in second-handers since they all contain Nana Moskouri records. And that other stuff you don't want to touch with a ten foot pole.

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BBP wrote:
I wish people would do more about vinyl recycling, at least in this neck of the woods. During WW2 here, you could only buy a new record if you handed in an old record first, that would be melted down. Dad and I often visit flea markets and it has happened quite a number of times we got boxes of vinyl records that weren't being used anymore. It's often hardly worth to take a look at the vinyl boxes in second-handers since they all contain Nana Moskouri records. And that other stuff you don't want to touch with a ten foot pole.

BBP's Iron Law Of Life #1:
On Any Given Flea Market, You Can Buy Vinyl Records By Nana Moskouri.


Nana's guitar skills were not as good as FZ's! Not to my ears anyway.


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Zank Frappa wrote:
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I wish people would do more about vinyl recycling, at least in this neck of the woods. During WW2 here, you could only buy a new record if you handed in an old record first, that would be melted down. Dad and I often visit flea markets and it has happened quite a number of times we got boxes of vinyl records that weren't being used anymore. It's often hardly worth to take a look at the vinyl boxes in second-handers since they all contain Nana Moskouri records. And that other stuff you don't want to touch with a ten foot pole.

BBP's Iron Law Of Life #1:
On Any Given Flea Market, You Can Buy Vinyl Records By Nana Moskouri.


Nana's guitar skills were not as good as FZ's! Not to my ears anyway.


Sure, but Nana sold a shit load more records than FZ, has had a longer carreer....AND her sons don't act like dipshits! (not to self...check if she actually has sons)

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She does have one boy, Nicolas, and a daughter, Hélène. And her last name is actually Mouskouri.

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She does have one boy, Nicolas, and a daughter, Hélène. And her last name is actually Mouskouri.


We used to call her "Banana Mousecurry"


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She does have one boy, Nicolas, and a daughter, Hélène. And her last name is actually Mouskouri.


We used to call her "Banana Mousecurry"


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MILcSzGnRDM

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In a far off time long long ago, known as my youth, around 1971ish The Nana Mouskouri Show was appointment viewing.....That's so long ago I don't think appointment viewing was even a thing.....


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if you wanted to listen to it in your car, just put it in your car (if you had a cd player...I did in 1988)(main reason I bought that car!)
Car CD Player 1988 :mrgreen:

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Just for the record: I am glad that the digital media age is now taking into account the true value of High fidelity....for a while there (mp3 mania), it looked like things where going to take a turn for the worst....now we have actual dac chips with 120 signal to noise ratios. So now we have high quality recordings AND the digital playback systems that are up to par...I'm happy. My Onkyo SE-90PCI sound cards can't be beat.

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