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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:44 pm 
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Many people had thought for a very long time that Blonde on Blonde was the first double rock album in history...but new information has surfaced showing that Freak Out was indeed the first double album in rock history.

Freak Out! was released on June 27, 1966. The supposed release date of May 16, 1966 for Blonde on Blonde, however, is incorrect:

Even the album's original release date remains in doubt; while Columbia reports an official date of May 16, 1966, several Dylan discographers have challenged the date, seeing as the album only charted on the Billboard 200 for the week ending July 23, a full two months after the May release date. (Billboard only first reviewed the album under its album reviews in the July 16, 1966 issue.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blonde_on_Blonde

This proves that a) Blonde on Blonde wasn't released on May 16, 1966 because it wouldn't take two months for an album by an established artist like Dylan to chart, b) that Blonde on Blonde was released in early - mid July 1966 and c) that Freak Out! was the first double album in rock since it was released on June 27, 1966.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:13 pm 
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I totally agree DB.I don't believe Dylan was a rocker then or now. B on B is an electric folk album.Where as Freak-Out is a rock album,later moved to alternative rock,then back again.
I tell folks this all the time,as I put on some Zappa that I know they'll like! It never fails,they stop and say who's that on now? Is that Danny and the Juniors!? :wink: 8)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:27 am 
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That IS terrific news! But wasn't there an other album that could claim that title?

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Jimmy Clanton - Jimmy's Happy, Jimmy's Blue. I don't think it can be called rock though.

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dont have the real fz book by my side at the moment, but frank mentioned something about this...

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11:23¿¿

lame excuse for an lp side [long play¿]



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:01 am 
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Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet, side 4 - 12:17

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Are you going to post this info at Metal Sludge so you can take another hissy fit and beat down??

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jaypfunk wrote:
Are you going to post this info at Metal Sludge...


I already DID. A member of the Fox News Team (you know, the ones who are allergic to facts) dared me to post this info here. So I did.

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...so you can take another hissy fit and beat down??


Hissy fit? Maybe. Beat down? That hasn't even happened ONCE.

NO ONE fucks with Frank and gets away with it...at least on my watch...

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Right on DB! No flies on Freak Out.
There's no way to delay that trouble coming everyday.-FZ

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I like it and there is something abouit this in the Real FZ Book, i will check it when I return to the Plook cave... :mrgreen:


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"By the time Freak Out was edited and shaped into an album, Wilson had spent twenty-five or thirty thousand dollars of MGM's money -- a ridiculous sum in those days, even for a double LP. (In fact, I believe Freak Out! was the first rock double LP.)

- Frank Zappa, The Real Frank Zappa Book

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calvin2hikers wrote:
"By the time Freak Out was edited and shaped into an album, Wilson had spent twenty-five or thirty thousand dollars of MGM's money -- a ridiculous sum in those days, even for a double LP. (In fact, I believe Freak Out! was the first rock double LP.)

- Frank Zappa, The Real Frank Zappa Book

Yep,The Real Frank Zappa Book,chapter 4-Are We Having A Good Time Yet? Subtitle,"What's in a Name",page 78,for those of you who want to look it up for yourselves.

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Nice Theories,blonde on blonde was first tho has recording started and finished before freakout!

As for who Charted first Wow it was hard too gather together info correctly like that in them times.

Disco Boy you Sure that you have not been look at some low Bread Chart And thinking it was the big boy Chart :D

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cleon wrote:
Nice Theories,blonde on blonde was first tho has recording started and finished before freakout!



It seems that the release of Blonde On Blonde was pushed back (in the U.S. at least) due to the decision to record an overdub on the song "Fourth Time Around." The overdub was apparently not recorded until June.

Recording definitely started before Freak Out though.


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The overdub was apparently not recorded until June
Where would that be told?

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Disco boy said it was released july :|

Thanks for the link Pbuzby that proves it may had been released as early as May.

The original US stereo version of the album was released alongside the finished mono edition at the end of June 1966, but it sounded very different. In many respects it was more akin to the early mono versions mistakenly released in Canada and France, in that it missed a number of the detailed editing improvements made for the final US mono edition. It lacked the overdub to "4th Time Around", for example, and still contained unedited vocal and instrumental slips in other songs.

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Recording an overdub for an album less than two weeks before releasing that same album, let alone pressing enough copies, packaging & promoting it, etc., would've been virtually impossible in those times. And again, I don't see how Blonde on Blonde could have been released before early July 1966, because if it was released the same week as Freak Out!, it still wouldn't have taken nearly a month for an album by an established artist like Dylan to make the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart (Blond on Blonde charted on July 23, 1966).

And of course, as we all know, most of the songs on Freak Out! were written long before Blonde on Blonde was pipe dream for Dylan...

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This thread as just made a big circle :roll:

How do you know Zappa wrote whatever before Dylan,your just being silly now.

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cleon wrote:
This thread as just made a big circle :roll:

How do you know Zappa wrote whatever before Dylan,your just being silly now.


You're the one making countless spelling and grammatical errors.

If you knew more about the history of FZ, you wouldn't have to ask the above question but since you have...for starters, this album:

http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/J ... rsage.html

Not to mention how Zappa & The Mothers played several of these tracks live during '64 & '65...

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Disco Boy wrote:
cleon wrote:
This thread as just made a big circle :roll:

How do you know Zappa wrote whatever before Dylan,your just being silly now.


You're the one making countless spelling and grammatical errors.

If you knew more about the history of FZ, you wouldn't have to ask the above question but since you have...for starters, this album:

http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/J ... rsage.html

Not to mention how Zappa & The Mothers played several of these tracks live during '64 & '65...

Ok like that is it that proves Fuck all,What you think Dylan made the Songs on Blonde on blonde on the spot in the recording studio.

Look you are wrong on this subject Again,and just wasting time thinking your correct.
people like you are the worst on the Web A fucking time waster 8)

ho yer one more thing where are these spelling mistakes you Asshole.
Wrong so your being a prick as usual.

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cleon wrote:
Disco Boy wrote:
cleon wrote:
This thread as just made a big circle :roll:

How do you know Zappa wrote whatever before Dylan,your just being silly now.


You're the one making countless spelling and grammatical errors.

If you knew more about the history of FZ, you wouldn't have to ask the above question but since you have...for starters, this album:

http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/J ... rsage.html

Not to mention how Zappa & The Mothers played several of these tracks live during '64 & '65...

Ok like that is it that proves Fuck all,What you think Dylan made the Songs on Blonde on blonde on the spot in the recording studio.

Look you are wrong on this subject Again,and just wasting time thinking your correct.
people like you are the worst on the Web A fucking time waster 8)


BS. Zappa & The Mothers were performing several of the songs that wound up on Freak Out! one to two years before Blonde on Blonde was even recorded. I greatly doubt Dylan wrote most of the songs from Blonde on Blonde as far back as '64...

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ho yer one more thing where are these spelling mistakes you Asshole.
Wrong so your being a prick as usual.


You must be joking... :roll:

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No joke serious as cancer.

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cleon wrote:
No joke serious as cancer.


There's grammatical and/or spelling errors in every single one of your posts...

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