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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:13 am 
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John Lennon's Sometime in New York City was recently remastered. Did they restore Flo & Eddie's vocals on "Scumbag" and give Frank proper credit for King Kong (Jamrag), or is the album still fucked up?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:27 am 
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illfatedtomboy wrote:
John Lennon's Sometime in New York City was recently remastered. Did they restore Flo & Eddie's vocals on "Scumbag" and give Frank proper credit for King Kong (Jamrag), or is the album still fucked up?


None of the above. They removed "Jamrag", "Scumbag", and "Aü". They replaced them with "Listen, The Snow Is Falling" and "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)".

Whether that is an improvement or fucks it up worse is debatable.

Bottom line: They don't have to give Frank credit if his songs aren't there.

I'm sure that was Yoko's position.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:31 am 
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dlokazip wrote:
illfatedtomboy wrote:
John Lennon's Sometime in New York City was recently remastered. Did they restore Flo & Eddie's vocals on "Scumbag" and give Frank proper credit for King Kong (Jamrag), or is the album still fucked up?


None of the above. They removed "Jamrag", "Scumbag", and "Aü". They replaced them with "Listen, The Snow Is Falling" and "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)".

Whether that is an improvement or fucks it up worse is debatable.

Bottom line: They don't have to give Frank credit if his songs aren't there.

I'm sure that was Yoko's position.


That was a last remaster. I'm referring to the latest reissue/repackaging:

http://www.amazon.com/Sometime-York-Cit ... 301&sr=1-1

They reissued/repackaged/remastered all of Lennon's albums, ditched the bonus tracks, etc.

But is Frank's songwriting credit and Mark and Howard's vocals still missing on the new new one?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:00 pm 
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illfatedtomboy wrote:
dlokazip wrote:
illfatedtomboy wrote:
John Lennon's Sometime in New York City was recently remastered. Did they restore Flo & Eddie's vocals on "Scumbag" and give Frank proper credit for King Kong (Jamrag), or is the album still fucked up?


None of the above. They removed "Jamrag", "Scumbag", and "Aü". They replaced them with "Listen, The Snow Is Falling" and "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)".

Whether that is an improvement or fucks it up worse is debatable.

Bottom line: They don't have to give Frank credit if his songs aren't there.

I'm sure that was Yoko's position.


That was a last remaster. I'm referring to the latest reissue/repackaging:

http://www.amazon.com/Sometime-York-Cit ... 301&sr=1-1

They reissued/repackaged/remastered all of Lennon's albums, ditched the bonus tracks, etc.

But is Frank's songwriting credit and Mark and Howard's vocals still missing on the new new one?


<Emily Litella voice> Nevermind. </Emily Litella voice>

Jeez, how many times are they going to remaster this thing?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:21 pm 
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illfatedtomboy wrote:
John Lennon's Sometime in New York City was recently remastered. Did they restore Flo & Eddie's vocals on "Scumbag" and give Frank proper credit for King Kong (Jamrag), or is the album still fucked up?


No and No. They preserved the artist's intent from the original release.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:50 pm 
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Figured as much.

Any reason why Zappa cut the main melody for King Kong entirely out of his own release of the performance?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:37 pm 
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illfatedtomboy wrote:

Any reason why Zappa cut the main melody for King Kong entirely out of his own release of the performance?


My guess is he thought it was unnecessary.


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The original vinyl album was one of the most horrible albums I ever listened to.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:25 pm 
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They did give Frank a credit for Scumbag, but not Jamrag. Go figure. Flo and Eddie's vocals are still missing, because it's a remaster of John's original vinyl mix.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:47 pm 
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Lennon had some good solo things, but when he was bad, he could be real bad. I'd rather listen to some pop dreck than that old rock songs thing he did.

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McCartney > Lennon


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