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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:47 am 
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The EMI TR CD is true to the original LP segues. The original Ryko was complete shit and the new Ryko master, although has better sound has the audience cheering way too loud in between the LP sides. and i hate the segues. the most offensive is the PMIC to BBL segue. HORRIBLE!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:24 am 
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jaypfunk wrote:
The EMI TR CD is true to the original LP segues. The original Ryko was complete shit and the new Ryko master, although has better sound has the audience cheering way too loud in between the LP sides. and i hate the segues. the most offensive is the PMIC to BBL segue. HORRIBLE!!!


My main gripe is that on the original LP (and the 1990/5 Ryko) there is some nice interplay between Tommy, Arthur and Vinnie at the end of "Now You See It Now You Don't" after FZ stops playing, but on the 1998 Ryko the crossfade buries it under "Dance Contest."


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:22 pm 
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The EMI TR CD is true to the original LP segues. The original Ryko was complete shit and the new Ryko master, although has better sound has the audience cheering way too loud in between the LP sides. and i hate the segues. the most offensive is the PMIC to BBL segue. HORRIBLE!!!


My main gripe is that on the original LP (and the 1990/5 Ryko) there is some nice interplay between Tommy, Arthur and Vinnie at the end of "Now You See It Now You Don't" after FZ stops playing, but on the 1998 Ryko the crossfade buries it under "Dance Contest."


yes! that and the snare drum hit on BBL is buried and has so much less balls/impact with the crowd noise being so loud.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Spencer should have remastered and left the LP sides intact

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:04 pm 
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All of the EMI CDs are FAR superior to Frank's fucked up Ryko remasters.


Definitely not. The only EMI CDs that are FAR superior to the Ryko editions are, Sheik Yerbouti, You Are What You Is, The Man From Utopia & Does Humor Belong In Music?


shut the fuck up, Mongoloid


But my above statements are essentially true, princess. Get your shit straight.

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Really? Which other EMI CDs are superior to the Ryko editions? Because I've read the patio site's analysis of the differences between the Ryko editions and EMI CDs several times and the four aforementioned EMI CDs are the only ones I recall that are superior to the Ryko editions...


once again reading the internet for "facts" instead of actually hearing them before making a true case.


I have heard and even own some of them, Cybil. I was just backing up my initial statement on this issue with the patio site's info.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:27 am 
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My general impression of the sound quality of the EMI edition [of SUNPYG] is that it's very agreeable, although not radically different from the current Ryko edition.

I just listened to the opening of Five-Five-Five from the EMI 2CD, back to back with the Ryko 3CD. The two versions are actually noticably (if not radically) different - the EMI 2CD has a lower master volume, and it sounds "clearer", with more separated and defined bass and treble frequencies. The strange phasing and synth sounds in the beginning of the track stand out more clearly in the EMI version. The overall impression is that the Ryko 3 CD version of that track sounds "murkier", although still enjoyable.

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It is cool that many issues of a release have these little variations and differences deliberate/intended or not. Not sure yet personally how much interest I have to spend time listening to different album versions to appreciate that- can't say at this stage naturally- but is interesting and adds another layer of depth to FZ's output (obviously understand not unique to him as artist). 8)


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It is cool that many issues of a release have these little variations and differences deliberate/intended or not. Not sure yet personally how much interest I have to spend time listening to different album versions to appreciate that- can't say at this stage naturally- but is interesting and adds another layer of depth to FZ's output (obviously understand not unique to him as artist). 8)

Discover the nerd inside :wink: or better still, keep on enjoying the music 8)

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My general impression of the sound quality of the EMI edition [of SUNPYG] is that it's very agreeable, although not radically different from the current Ryko edition.

I just listened to the opening of Five-Five-Five from the EMI 2CD, back to back with the Ryko 3CD. The two versions are actually noticably (if not radically) different - the EMI 2CD has a lower master volume, and it sounds "clearer", with more separated and defined bass and treble frequencies. The strange phasing and synth sounds in the beginning of the track stand out more clearly in the EMI version. The overall impression is that the Ryko 3 CD version of that track sounds "murkier", although still enjoyable.


http://www.zappa.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?p=427627#p427627

I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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Why :?: we're all obsessed 8)

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Dark Clothes wrote:
BloodSugar00 wrote:
It is cool that many issues of a release have these little variations and differences deliberate/intended or not. Not sure yet personally how much interest I have to spend time listening to different album versions to appreciate that- can't say at this stage naturally- but is interesting and adds another layer of depth to FZ's output (obviously understand not unique to him as artist). 8)

Discover the nerd inside :wink: or better still, keep on enjoying the music 8)


Haha! More like resume both 8)


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i love comparing different versions/mixes etc.... and revisiting things that i might not have listened to in a long time. like today i listened to the 45 rpm mix of I'm The Slime. That solo is killer!!

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and do all of yourselves a favor and get the UK vinyl of Over-Nite Sensation. It blows away that muddy reverb filled FZ approved master piece of shit

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and do all of yourselves a favor and get the UK vinyl of Over-Nite Sensation. It blows away that muddy reverb filled FZ approved master piece of shit

I have the US and the Canadian pressings - the US I've played to pieces so I can't tell how it was when new, but the Canadian one is excellent, and probably better than most US OS LPs, worn or mint.

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Dark Clothes wrote:
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and do all of yourselves a favor and get the UK vinyl of Over-Nite Sensation. It blows away that muddy reverb filled FZ approved master piece of shit

I have the US and the Canadian pressings - the US I've played to pieces so I can't tell how it was when new, but the Canadian one is excellent, and probably better than most US OS LPs, worn or mint.


nice. both the German and UK OS LPs are far superior to a brand new US pressing and alll the others i have. I have 9 diff pressings

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jaypfunk wrote:
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and do all of yourselves a favor and get the UK vinyl of Over-Nite Sensation. It blows away that muddy reverb filled FZ approved master piece of shit

I have the US and the Canadian pressings - the US I've played to pieces so I can't tell how it was when new, but the Canadian one is excellent, and probably better than most US OS LPs, worn or mint.


nice. both the German and UK OS LPs are far superior to a brand new US pressing and alll the others i have. I have 9 diff pressings

Thank you for the piece of advice. I think I am gonna get this.


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nice. both the German and UK OS LPs are far superior to a brand new US pressing and alll the others i have. I have 9 diff pressings

Thank you for the piece of advice. I think I am gonna get this.


and if you don't have a turntable, great quality transfers of all the original vinyl are available for download in certain unsocially retarded areas of the internet.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:43 am 
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and if you don't have a turntable, great quality transfers of all the original vinyl are available for download in certain unsocially retarded areas of the internet.
No problemo, I have one.


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I guess this is the right thread for this question. Do any of CD issues of Sheik Yerbouti have "Did you just record that?" at the end of I'm So Cute?

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I guess this is the right thread for this question. Do any of CD issues of Sheik Yerbouti have "Did you just record that?" at the end of I'm So Cute?

At least the EMI version has. It is identical to the vinyl.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:52 am 
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The Ryko versions all have the shortened "I'm So Cute." Quite honestly I like it better that way.


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