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 Post subject: Alternative Covers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:33 am 
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The only post-CP3 cover I truly appreciate is that of Zappa/Wazoo. All the others range from mwoa to bah.
First off: I decided to post one of these since someone seemed interested in the Monkies topic. Most of the cover designs I have are still essentially loose designs, nowhere near finished products.

Hammersmith Odeon is a nasty one. It looks like a ten minute work with a Paint programme and an 80s supersweet colour scheme. While the Odeon Cupcake is allright, the CD tops and the artwork in the booklet is definitely passable, but the covers! It screams bubble gum pop.

The following work is entitled The Answer To Your Question Is Doric. There's approximately three hours work in it. The idea came from the meaning of odeon: music temple. I guess this odeon is owned by the British Museum.
It taught me you'd better work at at least twice the size of the eventual artwork: I couldn't get the artwork in the metopes and tympanon.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:19 pm 
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BBP wrote:
There's approximately three hours work in it.
BBP, I love you (you knew about that, of course!), and you wanna tell me it took you 3 hours to draw THAT? C'mon -- :)
1st amendment to the graphic artists' school of thought: Try and do it fast!

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The idea came from the meaning of odeon: music temple.

Hey, what's wrong with Art Deco, then? Even the Floyds love it!

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:22 am 
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Well yes. The paperwork on it is tremendous,such as maintaining the same difference between triglyphs and the stripes between the first two columns on each side (they all come together in the same point, which means you have to line up the ruler every time). I wanted a sketch of what my idea was while putting the eyebrows on everything I had as a definite thought while leaving the rest (contents of the temple and decoration on metopes and tympanon) sort of blank. At any rate since I was working on real-life scale (this work is the same size as the actual CD box) it was hard to fill in those details; the metopes are about 1 square cm in surface: try to draw Terry Bozzio behind his drumkit in that.
At any rate I still prefer it over the actual Hammersmith cover.

Yes I've done cover designs before. For my own band (which never had more than 3 people in it anyway). No they were nothing I'm inclined to share.

Nothing is wrong with Art Deco. Or The Grand Wazoo.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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But where's the E-mu in your architrave? (16-voice poly and no place in your acropolis?) :)

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=emu+modular&f=hp#page=0
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matrixsynth/2680293333/


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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I don't think I could draw that convincingly, making it both recognizable and fun for people who aren't audiophiles. But I'll see what I can do.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Very nice, BBP, and good reasoning about the meaning, too!

I have large photocopies of Schenkel's sketches for The Grand Wazoo (+OSFA) which I got from Cal in 1981 - they remind me a bit about this, but I don't think he used a ruler!

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Thanks Dark Clothes!
Was being as accurate as possible, making sure all columns are perpendicular to the crepidoma, all have the same width at the bottom and a shorter width at the top, all capitals line up, and making sure I have all terminology in my head so I can tell people what flutings are.

I ought to make a photo of it so the actual colours are visible: my green isn't near that pale. And I need to make a larger version of the roof, since I doubt anyone is able to tell what's in the metopes or the tympanon.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:31 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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First sketch:
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It wasn't long before I realized I really needed a picture of a jukebox before I could proceed. On the Net there are pictures galore, but drawing with pencil and paper in front of the PC just doesn't work. I peeped into the 1950s sandwich bar not far from here, to see if they had anything that was a bit jukebox-y. Sure enough they had a radio in that shape, so I went in to take a closer look. Since the entire staff greeted me (they were assembled for a meeting with the head boss or something) I felt compelled to order something. With a Ben & Jerry's fudge icecream I drew their radio on one of their napkins.
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Sketch 3. I realized that, without the window trick or anything, I wasn't going to get anything symmetrical. Also note the Zappa letters: it took some debate over which one looks best: with the Z at bottom left or at top right.

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First mil paper sketch. This is also the one I copied using the glass table and torch onto the original.Note the figure on the right is the one on the top: the iron figure on the jukebox seemed abstract, and when I first drew the legs at the end it reminded me of Ralph Wiggum trying to get in his pajamas, but after the curls were done it suddenly looked a lot dirtier. I made a sketch to remind me of it since it woud be gone after I was done inking.

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I didn't like how the Greasy letters were interfering with the top ornament, so I made a sketch from scratch to satisfy my jukebox needs (felt bad since I had to ruin the jukebox with all the grease) and to re-design my letters.

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The Finished Product In All Its Greasiness.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Nice Jukebox!

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Thanks! I'm still looking for a way to colour it without making it look too photoshop.
Computer colouring isn't one of my fortes.
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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Is that a van Gogh guitar? :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Nope, I bet it's Pat Meheny's:
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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Maybe it is a Rembrandt guitar model!

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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:mrgreen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XYkcNmdQu0
(Side note: Into the Dream is the only composition I can find on the Picasso.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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BBP wrote:
Side note: Into the Dream is the only composition I can find on the Picasso.

If you like it, here are other videos:
I dunno what this one is => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYBkTj6lRts
"Are You Going With Me" => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOyPG_D2EnE
(edit - swapped the titles)


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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On the first one, did he take the top head off or something? it looks like it'd interfere with his head.

('n it looks like he took classes from Andy McKee)

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Covers
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Amazing instrument...

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