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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:51 am 
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… 1. There is rarely a steady pulse or rhythm. How would this music be transcribed in regards to time signatures and tempo? How would measures be determined, as it seems near impossible to find the "one" beat? …

Why should this be necessary at all? There is no reason why it should be possible to write it down in standard notation when there is no intention to perform it with real musicians.

Why must there be a steady pulse? Why measures? I can see no reason for it. As a musician (and for sure as a composer) you should strive to leave those conventions behind you. Otherwise you will trapped in limitations all the time. Free yourself. As musician and as listener. Notation is NOT music.

If pulse, beat, measures, etc. are the main factors in music for you should listen to disco music.

(BTW: I'm a musician, too. So to a degree I know what I'm talking about.)

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Lighten up, Francis. I never said that those elements are the main factors in music for me. I'm just looking for ways to better understand the music and possibly enjoy it even more than I already am.

BTW, I'm a bitter, jaded fuck too, so no harm, no foul :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:46 pm 
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I can honestly say that I don't understand this record, but I like it anyway.
I can honestly say that I agree with that statement.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:18 pm 
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I had a visit from my neice 11 and nephew 13, feeding the monkies was playing on a very low volume in the background, the adults (I use the term loosely) left the room for around 30 minuites, when we returned the kids had the music pumping and were bouncing around the room laughing their heads off, there "john denver fan" father was quite shocked, they don't act like that when they hear the wiggles he said....he's quite out of touch with what his children are watching and listening to, Ive ordered a copy of monkies for them, a little education from uncle Frank and its rated G


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:28 pm 
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Hermeto always wisely says that children are much more ready to listen to music (any music) than adults...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:09 pm 
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Hermeto was not familiar with my taste in music at a young age.

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Yeah, Hermeto made a gross generalization there not supported by my experiences. Not that vice-versa would apply either.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:51 pm 
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He was talking about Brazilian children.

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Finally got to listen to this album, have allways loved Zappa's synclavier music and this is excellent, my favorite has to be "worms from hell" i just cant stop listening to it, more more more, please please please, hope i don't have to wait another 17 years between synclavier albums, bring on Dance Me This!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:36 pm 
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Gray_Ghost wrote:
I had a visit from my neice 11 and nephew 13, feeding the monkies was playing on a very low volume in the background, the adults (I use the term loosely) left the room for around 30 minuites, when we returned the kids had the music pumping and were bouncing around the room laughing their heads off, there "john denver fan" father was quite shocked, they don't act like that when they hear the wiggles he said....he's quite out of touch with what his children are watching and listening to, Ive ordered a copy of monkies for them, a little education from uncle Frank and its rated G


Why the hell are 11 and 13 year olds watching the Wiggles in the first place?


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How is this album different from the his other synclavier music?
Is it better or just different?


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Better than Jazz, not as amazing as CP3. But nothing could be as amazing as CP3.

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:25 am 
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I listen to this CD and I want just to write that I needed to understand as I can "Dumb All Over" to get better music in this audio playing. Maybe it could help better listeners/musicians&compo to get it from in a longtime listener but not originalfreakoutiadmit. IMO its a piece of FZ audio almost live.
I apologize to disturb like this the life of "Zappa Albums" if there is anything negative


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But nothing could be as amazing as CP3.


I somewhat hope, Dance Me This could be. Maybe :P


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The Best Album That I have of Mr. Frank Zappa himself, sincerely >> nico. :arrow:

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The Best Album That I have of Mr. Frank Zappa himself, sincerely >> nico. :arrow:


In my top 3, civ phaze 3 has better compositions but I hit track next on most the talking these days.

Monkies is great in that sense.

Jazz probably takes 3rd.

I love his digital stuff most.

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I've only had this disc a month, and listened to it a few times. I've enjoyed it more each time. Think I'll add it to today's playlist.


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I like his Synclavier stuff too, and find Monkies to be good each time I spin it.

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I listened to it once. That seems to be enough.

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I lke this album a lot. but, then again, 'civilization phaze iii' is my favorite zappa album.

I'm just waiting for 'dance me this.' when, gail?

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[quote="Lumpy Gravy"]civlization phaze iii' is my favorite zappa album.
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I agree that is a great album, civ3 is a little bit ultimate. Music needs to be active that's why I listen to, hopefully, nowadays music as for instance "electronic and ugly" music. Data browsing asks sometimes skills, fresh sens emulation and a brain's way for expression.

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