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 Post subject: Re: Dear Vaultmeister
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:50 am 
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I agree with everybody and what they say.

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calvin2hikers wrote:
I agree with everybody and what they say.



Hmmm a polotician I presume... :smoke:


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Is that someone who has a strong opinion on those rough shirts with the two buttons on top?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:41 pm 
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BBP wrote:
Is that someone who has a strong opinion on those rough shirts with the two buttons on top?

:mrgreen:

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BBP wrote:
Is that someone who has a strong opinion on those rough shirts with the two buttons on top?


I was thinking horses....but yours is better.

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Is that someone who has a strong opinion on those rough shirts with the two buttons on top?


I was thinking horses....but yours is better.

I've never seen a rough horse with two buttons on the top. Where do you do your thinking?

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Sam I Am wrote:
calvin2hikers wrote:
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Is that someone who has a strong opinion on those rough shirts with the two buttons on top?


I was thinking horses....but yours is better.

I've never seen a rough horse with two buttons on the top. Where do you do your thinking?


In the den, listening to the various recordings of Jerry Vale.

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I do my thinking when I'm sleeping. That way it doesn't hurt.

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Ronny's Noomies wrote:
I do my thinking when I'm sleeping. That way it doesn't hurt.



I do some of my best work while sleeping... :smoke:


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Plook wrote:
Ronny's Noomies wrote:
I do my thinking when I'm sleeping. That way it doesn't hurt.
I do some of my best work while sleeping... :smoke:
So, does that mean you're only a professional in your dreams?

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polydigm wrote:
Plook wrote:
Ronny's Noomies wrote:
I do my thinking when I'm sleeping. That way it doesn't hurt.
I do some of my best work while sleeping... :smoke:
So, does that mean you're only a professional in your dreams?

          :mrgreen:


Sleeping is good, waking up each day is better. Considering the state of the world, I just console myself that I am still dreaming and maybe I will soon have a good dream, and in that dream I will be watching the ROXY DVD. 8)

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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
dark clothes wrote:
I'm in a quandary - I respect downer and like his posts. But he doesn't like asskissing, so how shall I put it ...
agreed, but so far it's been all walk no talk

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...Mixing is as easy as frying an egg...
  1. open refrigerator door
  2. remove egg from carton
  3. close refrigerator door
  4. place pan on stove
  5. turn heat on
  6. add grease to pan
  7. fry egg in grease
  8. turn heat off



it would be totally bitchen to learn mixing in 8 easy steps/28 words or less; give it up, bro', the secret mixing manifesto as explained by downer myddie ...
Agreed i dont think downer myddie could mix eggs neven mind music :D

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Vaultmeister
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cleon wrote:
...Agreed i dont think downer myddie could mix eggs ...
no, maybe prone to oversimplfying, let's cut the guy a bit of slack ...

ok, downie, if you stay within the 8-easy-steps framework, the 28-word limit can be waived

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Holy shit! You people once again managed to ruin a serious topic by playing with yourselfs only.

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Thinman wrote:
Holy shit! You people once again managed to ruin a serious topic by playing with yourselfs only.

Thinman

Fuck you serious bullshit tech and mixing is only as good as what was recorded nothing more nothing less 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Vaultmeister
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cleon wrote:
Fuck you serious bullshit tech and mixing is only as good as what was recorded nothing more nothing less

Cleon, until I hear you play I will consider you a no talent loudmouth.

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ok, downie, if you stay within the 8-easy-steps framework, the 28-word limit can be waived

8 easy steps for mixing.
1. Start with a great sounding recording. Mixing and recording are not the same thing.
2. Know which instruments/vocals are on each track.
3. Set volume of each track. (Keep levels in check. Preserve dynamics and frequency response)
4. Pan tracks. (Create a good stereo soundstage. If you can record not only a sound but the direction in space it comes from, and you do it for every sound wave making up the soundstage, including all the reflected sound waves, then you will be able to reproduce a facsimile of the original soundstage)
5. Avoid over compression.
6. Avoid artificial processing whenever possible. More signal, less EQ. Vocal processing will be necessary so get it as right as possible from the start.
7. Avoid having too many instruments occupying the same frequency range. (Filter bass frequencies)
8. Don't clutter shit up. Simplify! Use saturation effects only as needed. Try to finish mix with master fader at 0 db.

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downer mydnyte wrote:
1. Start with a great sounding recording. Mixing and recording are not the same thing.
There it is, this whole issue in a nutshell. If there are no great sounding recordings left, then what? As I keep saying, we're talking about archive recordings.

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downer mydnyte wrote:
1. Start with a great sounding recording. Mixing and recording are not the same thing.
There it is, this whole issue in a nutshell. If there are no great sounding recordings left, then what? As I keep saying, we're talking about archive recordings.

Agreed.

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downer mydnyte wrote:

1. Start with a great sounding recording. Mixing and recording are not the same thing.
2. Know which instruments/vocals are on each track.
3. Set volume of each track. (Keep levels in check. Preserve dynamics and frequency response)
4. Pan tracks. (Create a good stereo soundstage. If you can record not only a sound but the direction in space it comes from, and you do it for every sound wave making up the soundstage, including all the reflected sound waves, then you will be able to reproduce a facsimile of the original soundstage)
5. Avoid over compression.
6. Avoid artificial processing whenever possible. More signal, less EQ. Vocal processing will be necessary so get it as right as possible from the start.
7. Avoid having too many instruments occupying the same frequency range. (Filter bass frequencies)
8. Don't clutter shit up. Simplify! Use saturation effects only as needed. Try to finish mix with master fader at 0 db. …


Rule #1: Never copy&paste without providing the source. Trying to sell some uncredited copied information as your own knowledge is disgusting.

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Rule #2 Don't ignore what people quote at you and answer for others its rude and trollish.I have guitar recording equipment HD camera and you think I would use it too show of how old are you 5.Your also make yourself look like a dickhead saying people can't do things online and your master mixer you do some proofing.

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Thinman wrote:
Rule #1: Never copy&paste without providing the source. Trying to sell some uncredited copied information as your own knowledge is disgusting.
Th.


Exactly. It's like I was telling my wife the other day - I'm too old for this shit, that's what I'm talking about and we're gonna need a bigger boat.


I'm not sure what question can really be asked of the Vaultmeister. He can't talk about future releases so I guess that limits it to what's been released already.

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calvin2hikers wrote:
I'm too old for this shit

Me too. AND this site adds YEARS to you, so where does that leave ya?!


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Me too. AND this site adds YEARS to you, so where does that leave ya?!

Older and wiser.



Hahahahahahahaha. :mrgreen:

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Sam I Am wrote:
IrishBoris wrote:
Me too. AND this site adds YEARS to you, so where does that leave ya?!

Older and wiser.
Hahahahahahahaha. :mrgreen:

Ha, if only... :mrgreen:


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