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 Post subject: Signature Tunes
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:41 am 
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According to the liner notes for the 2012 CDs of Zoot Allures and Joe's Garage, FZ identified Zoot Allures, Black Napkins and Watermelon in Easter Hay as "signature tunes". The idea that these three tunes sort of embody the essence of FZ - at least as a guitarist - has been around at least since Dweezil compiled FZPTMOFZ. But does anybody know when - if ever - FZ actually identified these pieces as signatorial?

I have a memory of an interview with Dweezil from the early Nineties where he recalled a conversation with his dad about favourite guitar pieces. Dweezil mentioned Black Napkins, which baffled Frank, who called the tune too simple to be special. At least that's how I remember the situation.

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 Post subject: Re: Signature Tunes
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:59 am 
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DC Boogie wrote:

I have a memory of an interview with Dweezil from the early Nineties where he recalled a conversation with his dad about favourite guitar pieces. Dweezil mentioned Black Napkins, which baffled Frank, who called the tune too simple to be special. At least that's how I remember the situation.



You may be thinking of Dweezil's interview in the Guitar Player special Zappa issue, but he wasn't talking about the song itself, but about the Halloween 81 version which he thought was one of the best although Frank didn't like it.


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 Post subject: Re: Signature Tunes
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:33 am 
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pbuzby wrote:
DC Boogie wrote:

I have a memory of an interview with Dweezil from the early Nineties where he recalled a conversation with his dad about favourite guitar pieces. Dweezil mentioned Black Napkins, which baffled Frank, who called the tune too simple to be special. At least that's how I remember the situation.



You may be thinking of Dweezil's interview in the Guitar Player special Zappa issue, but he wasn't talking about the song itself, but about the Halloween 81 version which he thought was one of the best although Frank didn't like it.


That makes sense - thanks.

I still wonder if there are other sources for the identification of the "signature tunes" than Dweezil's text in the FZPTMOFZ booklet (where they're called "signature pieces")?

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 Post subject: Re: Signature Tunes
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I seem to remember Keneally and maybe some other people who were around FZ in those last years contributing to a discussion about that on alt.fan.frank-zappa, but I don't feel like digging the posts up right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Signature Tunes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:03 am 
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pbuzby wrote:
I seem to remember Keneally and maybe some other people who were around FZ in those last years contributing to a discussion about that on alt.fan.frank-zappa, but I don't feel like digging the posts up right now.


We gotta wait? Darnit.

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 Post subject: Re: Signature Tunes
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I found this thread from 1996 where Keneally confirms it was true, although that is about it.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... INQJaunMQJ


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 Post subject: Re: Signature Tunes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:14 pm 
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pbuzby wrote:
I found this thread from 1996 where Keneally confirms it was true, although that is about it.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... INQJaunMQJ


Interesting antediluvian stuff there, pbuzby, but far from conclusive. And it's a pretty absurd notion that FZ should not want anyone to cover "Merely a Blues in A" as someone says here...

What does this all mean when Ensemble Ambrosius were given the support of the ZFT for their cover of Zoot Allures? Would FZ really not have wanted such a thing to happen, because ZA is one of his so-called "signature tunes" (or "pieces")?

I think it all smacks of a semi-mysticism that's alien to FZ, but well known from other quarters of his Family Trust.

After all, FZ is on record saying that he doesn't care how he will be remembered after his passing. To put it mildly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjX5SPgR-s

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 Post subject: Re: Signature Tunes
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DC Boogie wrote:
And it's a pretty absurd notion that FZ should not want anyone to cover "Merely a Blues in A" as someone says here...


That was a joke, I think.


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