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Shipped from Amazon today!

On the official catalogue vs posthumous releases. Frank worked all the time. He had ideas and concepts all the time and did work on them. He did not have unlimited resources, so he relied on record companies. Look at all the trouble and revisions UM and WOIIFTM went through. He would have released a whole lot more if he could have afforded it or if someone else paid to release it. I eagerly await any and all releases and have been pleased with most of them (I even listened to Joe's Domage and Joe's XMasage a few times). He did want to release the material on EIHN and QUAD, he just didn't get to fully realize those projects.

I will say I only download the actual FZ tracks from the AANFRAas.

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Got it in the mail today. CD Universe rules, 2 days. Listened through once so far. Best "FZ-constructed" release since Lost Episodes. One has to wonder why this wasn't released on Ryko around the time of LE. Maybe Joe hadn't found it yet?

First Road Tapes venue #1, now this?
Great, great stuff coming out of the vault.
I am already spinning this for the 5th time; lovin' it.

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This is a great, great album!!! Some serious shit with the early MOI. Here and there in pristine sound as well. Very, very recommendable.

PS. And the cover is just great when you see it closer, and realize it is not a drawing. Would be great on vinyl in Large.

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A release with the complete Ark concert would be really nice, wouldn't it? The solo from "A Holiday in Berlin, Full Blown" (one of Zappa's best to my ears) comes from there and I would love to listen to it in its original context.

I wonder what's on the discs themseves, I mean in terms of visuals/graphics & fonts stuff -- Hope it's not the front cover sh#t replicated?
And, above all, is the spine artwork any sexy?
For a little ceremony, I think I'll give the oilcloth thing a blunt little hole puncher job -- what's better with New Year's Eve upcoming than some brown confetti?

I know this may sound crazy, but I almost LIKE the fact that there's missing information about releases like this. It reminds me of the old days when you knew a band was putting out a new record and might know what it was called or maybe what it looked like, but not much else. You had to go to the store, buy it, bring it home and go over it word for word while listening...then do it all again.

Then again, maybe they're just lazy...

these 2 albums reveal alot of interresting stuff about Frank & his time he did it. I love them very much, cuz i want understand the man.

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For those who are interested in where this material was culled from on Carnegie Hall:

The first 3:41 is from "A Pound For A Brown" and the rest is from "King Kong". A good amount of razor blade edits in this one.

If it exists,fully, in the vault, put me down as a fuck yes vote to this.

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I dunno, bands used to offer what songs would be on albums all the time in interviews, it is called "promoting the product". The only difference between then and now is that before there was no outlet to listen to the album before buying like there is now. I have a lot of turds bought over the years based on one decent song on MTV or the radio.

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The currently-down IINK site had a breakdown of the edits in this material as it appeared on the "JABFLA second LP." This unreleased second LP had Ian's sax solo in King Kong, which has been omitted from Finer Moments.

For me at least, being a Zappa fan in the late 80's and early 90's meant going to the record store once every week or two and making haste to the "Z" bins of the rock section and, on a few lucky days, finding a new YCDTOSA volume or reissue, or something like Best Band, sitting there. Occasionally a bit of preliminary info might surface in Down Beat, Musician or David Fricke's column in Rolling Stone (I subscribed to Society Pages a bit later), but otherwise, nothing.

It was even better in the days roughly before CDs. Many times albums appeared in the bins without any prior notice. I remember Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt and Orchestral Favourites being such surprises. I'll never forget the fresh special smell of those albums when they were brand new. And Zappa In New York was postponed and suddenly appeared then in 1978. Nobody knew that soon after JG Act 1 there would be a double album with Acts 2 & 3. YAWYI appearing very soon after TTR was another surprise without announcement. There was no internet and not many music papers. It is a lot more boring these days.

Th.

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My biggest surprise was finding YCDTOSA 4 one day in summer 1991. With more than a year going by since the previous volume I wondered if it would ever appear.

Interesting observations guys. I hadn't really considered how my music purchasing had changed before reading that.

Ah, those were the days indeed. When I started being a Zappa fan, a major CD chain was getting rid of its Zappa and so I found much in their Z section, but for the last 10 records I really had to scrounge. I remember getting a 1 euro price cut on Thing-Fish, because I finally stumbled on it at a CD fair and only had 16 euros on me, one measly euro too little. But the guy let me have it.
Good going, considering I haven't found any copy of TF since.

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The cover is awesome. Look at is closely. Made out of linoleum. Quite cool! I think it is a very tasteful release.

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Thank you many times for letting me know, doug, they're taking a while to arrive, and I have been too curious:

AND HOW UGLY THEY TURN OUT TO BE!


Chances are good that finally you'll be overcoming this phase, HJ --
And Yes, I Have Noticed It's Not Pencil-On-Paper -- Awwhgh! Ommagoodness!

Just don't take and play that CD in a car on a hot day it be flaking everywhere my bet.

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

I grew accustomed to the fact that there'll never be a ZFT release that looks like an ECM album, but this is sub-anything.
There's no way that this guy has seen the interior of an art school in his life, imo.

Wow ! Best MOI live album since BWS ... and it's even better ! Great release.

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Too much moustache and I wish they hadn't stuck those nasty little numbers on the spine. SUNPYG has three of 'em! Other than that, I'm really looking forward to Finer Moments.

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Well, in fact 1990 was a rare year (after 1977 and 1980) without any new FZ release. Thus Stage 4 was as likely to appear as anything.

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