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$40 for FO and $25 for OS? too fuckin' high. even tho i am a hardcore core collector this is kinda nuts. i'll stick with my original LPs. i have 9 versions OS already.

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Jayp, care to post a pic or youtube vid of your hardcore collection? I'm intrigued. I've only been collecting vinyl for 3 years now and will only get one copy of whatever I can get my hands on due to limited funds / accessability.

i'd love to if i get time. all the LPs and 7" singles are in corrugated record boxes right now. i do have some of the memorabilia displayed like posters, promo mobiles and shit like that.

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Nine whooping versions of Over-Nite Sensation? Care to list them? I wonder if one of them is the quad LP?

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Will this FO! be different from the Old Masters Box?

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from memory...
U.S. Discreet - original yellow label MS2149
U.S. Discreet - yellow label DSK 2288 it may be a record club pressing. the name the Mother and the title is at the bottom of the label
U.S. Discreet - brown Reprise label
U.S. Quad LP
German - Best sounding version I've heard!!
Greece - non-gatefold and diff back
Spain with censored cover non-gatefold and Eat that Question instead of DMH link... http://home.westbrabant.net/~hades/over ... onesp.html
Old Masters LP

there's one more that I forget.

all of the label variances can be seen here...
http://home.westbrabant.net/~hades/over ... ation.html

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I agree, those prices are too high.
I no longer have a full vinyl collection as I sold off my least favorites to pay for the cd's but having paid $4.99 and $5.99 for mine when new I can't see paying $25 for a single.
Good Luck with that, ZFT.
I am, though, still looking forward to more of the Road Tapes releases...

Sure, the price is steep, but I'm wondering if it's inevitable that it costs as much as it does. After all, vinyl manufacturing these days costs a lot of money and it's largely treated as an elitist sort of a luxury item for diehard audiophiles (or as FZ would say: "fetishists") and there's a whole bunch of other costs that have to be accounted for, so I'm not so certain the price is more due to price-gouging than it is due to the fact that anything lower than 40 bucks for Freak Out! 2LP these days would be less than profitable. Or would anybody explain me if it is possible to have a lower optimal price for a vinyl LP?

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The price isn't too out to lunch if they're 180g and using the original analogue mixes.

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This is a bullshit price, i print records as well, my own music comes out on vinyl as well as other projects we produce, the last project i was involved in, it cost £1300 (UK Pounds) to print 500 LP's with cover and inner sleeve, that works out to about $1980:16 with today's rate. That's $3:96 per record...

i edited this entry as i released the figure was wrong, we printed 500 Lp's at that price, but also for that price we printed 1000 sleeves in case there as a re order as there was not a large difference in price between 500-1000 record sleeves...

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But you have to make a profit or at least, break even! You don't want to lose money, now do you? How realistic is it to sell let's say 400 LPs, let alone all 800? If you're highly likely only to sell 75 copies, then in order to break even, it's inevitable that a single LP may have to cost 25 dollars. Maybe 20 dollars, if you can sell 100 copies.

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If i can sell 500 copies of Turkish rock then i can't see why that amount can't be sold in Zappa LP's worldwide. What we do is not commercial as well. If you only are likely to sell 75 copies then you only press that amount, it is very cheap to repress any given amount once you have sales.. there are ways of doing this without ripping people off.. From what i can see that ZFT price all their products too highly.

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I am going to apologise here, saying bull shit price was really not right at all... The problem for me is that when i saw it in dollars it looked expensive, looking at it again OS is not badly priced, i think FO maybe still overpriced but if it has all the extra's then yes it could be worth it...

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Those prices are rape. You can find the original vinyl for a lot less...

$4.99 [this record plays well, but it's a bit scratchy in the background. skips during side 1 track 3 'who are the brain police?' - does not fix itself, lots of wear on cover]

$7.51 [cover is pretty bad, looks to have been stuck to itself ... vinyls have no sleeves, but are actually not that bad ... not going to lie, there are scratches, i think this may still play]

$7.75 [inside of gate-fold jacket has a water mark on bottom of gate-fold, spine is solid, but there is a little bend on top ... back of jacket has a touch of material gone very bottom; vinyl does not have any skips, but a couple of songs have a little faint noise in the back ground of song]

$9.99 [cover: wear on corners, edges, rub wear and discoloring, split on top; inner sleeve very worn and split, other sleeve missing ... record - has scratches]

$10.78 [the two records are: poor, one side is not playable ... jacket is a gatefold: vg/vg+*]

$11.00 [gatefold cover: vg- partial top & bottom seam splits; both records: vg- lots of scuffs & scratches]

$12.97 [surface scuffs / scratches plays ok with some pop and hiss on my turntable ... tape on seam splits, discoloration on inside... ]

$14.99 [vinyl condition: vg-, moderate scuffing plays with noise; sleeve condition: vg-, moderate wrinkling from water damage on bottom 3"]

$16.00 [tiny bit musty cover, pretty solid with some wear to edges/corners; no splitting... records solid, one does have a scratch but i tested it and it played through with just a bit of popping/noise]

$16.05 [cover & condition of the records are vg *]

£10.61 [double album shows its age, discs are not good- i don't have player to check playability-sorry]

$18.50 [light wear, light scratches, writing on two labels ...]

$19.38 [several light surface scratches as well as a few very small scratches which may possibly cause a few clicks or pops for a few revolutions]

$20.00 [a few scattered light background crackles ... shelf-wear, taped spine]

$20.00 [cover in rough condition; record scratched, however, not deep... as is]

$30.00 [light marks and a couple of heavy scratches which cause very light surface noise ... cover ring wear, seam wear, creases, 6" top seam splits and small writing on cover]

$36.00 [background noise mostly heard in the quiet parts and between tracks, few occasional tics]

$39.99 [blemishes, no deep scratches, no great play-back ... corner wear and fraying, some ring wear, 4.5" splits from record mouth out on the two top seams ...]

$5.09 [sides three and four have major issues; it appears this lp got near some heat and it somewhat melted the outer edge of this platter...although the first few inches of the outer edges are unplayable, song two on side three help, i'm a rock and over half of side four plays fine ... shelf and handling wear with the remnants of the original sticker on the cover that has been partially peeled off, some edge wear but no splitting other than a few very tiny ones on the tip of the pockets, a little split in the interior gatefold but not all the way through, a name written in inside lower edge and a name written on two of the labels with a small amount of paper loss on interior of cover gatefold]



* vg = not necessarily a bad record, excessive background noise, will play all the way thru ...cover: 2 or more defects

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