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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:24 am 
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Interesting, cheers DB


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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:39 am 
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downer mydnyte wrote:
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Vai's most definitely better than most of the "guitar greats" in the sense of melody. I very much liked the orchestral work he did 'n all. Combined with his superior chops, I can imagine he could make anyone feel insecure about his own playing, unlike, say, Yngwie Malmsteen who just makes me happy I'm not a guy. Me I stopped playing guitar 'cos I can't hold them without being in pain in ten minutes.


Guitar Greats? Like, Jann Wenner approved? Sure, most musicians are "better" than the rock establishments so called "greats".
But is this really forgivable??!..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz5w06Naq0c.


Forgivable and, not only but also forgetable


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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:58 am 
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The 1980 Paris show was awesome for Frank's guitaring.
He was on fire!! And a Les Paul to boot!!
Two of his best solos one on Chunga's the other on Outside Now.
The Enema solo is pretty sweet too...


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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:49 pm 
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Chungas revenge is always a highlight in any form. But yeah especially great show. I saw an interview with him where he stated his old style of playing was more to do with Johnny Guitar Watson but as he got into the 80's he played more like Clarence Gatemouth Brown. Anyone else agree?

I posted the interview on the Zappatube thread.

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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:15 pm 
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You're a saint.


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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
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downer mydnyte wrote:
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You're a saint.


I was swayed by the "custom made tights" :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:48 am 
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YAWYI: a couple of questions.
1/. harder than your husband - an expose of C&W hipocrisy? any homage at all?
2/. doreen - Im OK with it, but it sounds like a tune frank wouldn't like. A satire of hair metal? A vehicle for Ike?
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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
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I don't know of FZ talking about the inspiration for either song. "Doreen" seems to me like a doo wop tune disguised as 80's arena rock.


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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:27 am 
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Doreen sounds a lot like doo-wop disguised as metal and it's a vehicle for Ray, not Ike.


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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:47 pm 
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it's a vehicle for Ray, not Ike.

OK, thanks. Dang, I though it was Ike doing it on youtube :oops:
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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
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Doreen fucking rules hard. A great vocal vehicle. Used to dislike the last minute or so of the song. But now I really enjoy the guitar wanking and the harmonies. YAWYI is an amazing album. I even like Coneheads nowadays.

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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:08 am 
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OK, next question on my way to becoming a real fan:
Baby snakes is ace, but are there any longer versions of it?
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 Post subject: Re: 80's Zappa
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deuce wrote:
OK, next question on my way to becoming a real fan:
Baby snakes is ace, but are there any longer versions of it?
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There is a longer version available in a rehearsal from December 29, 1977, and from the show December 31, 1977, both of which you can find from Zappateers, with a sort of surf rock instrumental interlude. All others are just like the Sheik version (except for the SMPTE bit).


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