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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:21 am 
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I know this is sooooo trivial and a ridiculous question :? , but I'd love people's opinions on Zappa's 'Greatest Song'


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:32 pm 
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Old as fuck topic but I figured why not revive it.

I think his greatest song can be different to your favorite song.

I think his greatest song is The Little House I Used To Live in from BWS. It has everything you'd want from Zappa and so much more and is full of pomp, swagger & musical prowess that it'll knock your socks off. The solos are all great, melody lines are great and the finally is perfect.

Strictly Genteel (OF), Watermelon & Sinister Footwear II are up there too.

BUT none of these are my personal favorite Zappa song. Mine is probably Drowning Witch (though it changes weekly if not daily).

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:16 pm 
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Peaches en Regalia

It's instrumental which means you don't have to deal with scatological or political lyrics.

It's one of his most popular tunes and generally more accessible to casual music fans.

It's really good.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:57 pm 
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The Little House That I Used To Live In, no doubt.

My personal favourites:

Brown Shoes Don't Make It
Punky's Whips
Dog Breath Variations
Mother People
Lonely Little Girl
Blessed Relief
Oh No
King Kong
RDNZL
Holiday In Berlin, Full Blown
Aybe Sea
Uncle Meat (and variations)
Sleeping In A Jar
Revised Music For Guitar & Low-Budget Orchestra
Gregery Peccary (not one of my personal favs, but I think it deserves a mention)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:49 am 
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My personal favourite is YO MAMA!
because of the over-all feel, really great solo passage, minimalistic but great lyrics, live-with-overdubs-technique, ...
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The Adventures Of Greggery Peccary is a masterpiece.
And Amnerika.

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I vote Strictly Genteel. Just magnificent.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:31 am 
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The Adventures Of Greggery Peccary is a masterpiece.


Agreed.


For a beautiful composition, I vote "Sofa No. 1".
Guitar hero wise, I vote "Po-Jama People".

I've always thought this was a great one-two punch. One of the best examples of how Zappa could compose a beautiful number, then shred his ass off right behind it.


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For the early mothers I reckon oh no. Its sticks out like dogs bollocks from all the other stuff.
For other zappa, dunno. parts of revised music, zoot allures, outside now (BTHW), fembot, dirty love, peaches, absolutely free, baby snakes??
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Inca Roads. I dont know of another song that has this much badassery going on. The band was apeshit. The music has great parts all put together in a great way. The best of all his talent in one ridiculous song.

I can think of lots of others on par with that... but not quite. Hell... I even love the singing.

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Strictly Genteel.
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? (Roxy)
Watermelon In Easter Hay (JG)

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Many too choose from, but a few favourites are:

RDNZL
Inca Roads
Big Swift YCDTOSA Vol. 1 version
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?

many more I dearly love and treasure...

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Been thinking about this for a while, and I'm going to say "Brown Shoes Don't Make It". I think that while it wasn't the first Zappa I heard, it was the first song that really knocked me off my axis and made me re-calibrate my notions as to what music could be. It's far from his most compositionally complex song (if I were to choose from one of "those", I'd have a harder time deciding), but I really think its sharp twists and turns set the agenda for much of what came later in his career. It's one of the aspects of his music I appreciate the most - interesting to ponder that he took that "what in the world will happen next" strategy to a full-album level with Uncle Meat - my favorite FZ album.

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Invocation and Dance of the Ritualistic...his first truly great guitar solo
Little House I Used to Live In
The Torture Never Stops
Resolver + Brutality
Big Swifty
Echidna's Arf

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BBP wrote:
Amnerika


I'd have to go with this as well but when I say that I imiedatly think it's not fair because it's a static situation and doesn't represent Zappa's best stuff which I think was his abilty to make music out of what ever was at hand whether it be band members or audience or computer so in that respects I would have to go with Duppre's Paradise as an event/song, something unique may happen within the comfines of this song and not just a "jazz" type solo but a social event that is an integrel aspect of the music for that night only. To have this as a recording takes it out of the dynamic project that it was created in and places it within the realms of a static object that can only be inspected and investigated and never again particated in, in a word history. To say that Duppree's Pardise is his best song wouldn't be true because you would be looking at a staic object, you would have to say the possibilty of Duppree's Pardise is Frank's best song. But then this again is doing my head in and I come up with Frank's recording of John Cage's 4:33 because anything can be on that song, it's the essence of pure possibility and that's what Frank was about for me, a glimpse at the possibility.


So, I'd go with Frank's recording of 4:33 on the John Cage tribute album but only after the listerner as absorbed Frank's entire output for 20 years, then, and only then is this his greatest song!

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One of Zappa's "greatest" songs = World´s Greatest Sinner

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A three way tie:

Sofa No. 1 - OSFA
Sofa - ZINY
Sofa # 1 - YCDTOSA 1

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:21 am 
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Inca Roads. I dont know of another song that has this much badassery going on. The band was apeshit. The music has great parts all put together in a great way. The best of all his talent in one ridiculous song.

I can think of lots of others on par with that... but not quite. Hell... I even love the singing.

I think Inca Roads sums up most aspects of his style, especially the OSFA version with the flown in solo.
It makes is one of my favorite FZ songs and recordings, maybe I like the Helsinki version better with the full solo in there.


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Song: a short piece of music with words that are sung.
Song: the act of singing.
Song: a series of musical sounds that are produced by a bird or an animal (such as a whale)

It always confuses me when people pick pieces with no vocals for a question about songs, but okay.

Outside Now has always been a favorite, especially the BtHW version.
But this is a question about greatest not favorite. Inca would be a perfect selection, but I would have to go with Drowning Witch.

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zappahead311 wrote:
Inca would be a perfect selection, but I would have to go with Drowning Witch.


Pretty much how I'm feeling right now. I would possibly throw in RDNZL too.

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An arbitrary selection of likely suspects--

--------------------- Inca Roads ---------------------
Chunga's Revenge ------------- Greggery Peccary
----------- Brown Shoes Don't Make It ------------
Big Swifty ------ Yo' Mama ------ Farther Oblivion
------------ Who Are The Brain Police -------------
Porn Wars ---------- N-Lite ---------- Wolf Harbor
Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch

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zappahead311 wrote:
Song: a short piece of music with words that are sung.
Song: the act of singing.
Song: a series of musical sounds that are produced by a bird or an animal (such as a whale)

It always confuses me when people pick pieces with no vocals for a question about songs, but okay.

Outside Now has always been a favorite, especially the BtHW version.
But this is a question about greatest not favorite. Inca would be a perfect selection, but I would have to go with Drowning Witch.

i just songed this post aloud.
it is not my favorite.


great though.

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zappahead311 wrote:
Song: a short piece of music with words that are sung.
Song: the act of singing.
Song: a series of musical sounds that are produced by a bird or an animal (such as a whale)
It always confuses me when people pick pieces with no vocals for a question about songs, but okay.

Well, maybe the OP didn't strictly mean 'song' as in the definitions above.
Seeing as he did 8 posts and bottled it, I assume he's a knobhead who actually meant 'tune'...
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dio fa/drowning witch/it can't happen here/amnerika


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