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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:26 am 
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<br>Been reading some of the vinyl/CD comparisons and noticing the FZ approved remasters don't typically fair well in comparison.  <br><br>So which ones are the most egregious horrible remasters and which are the best or, if you prefer, the "least worst" remasters?<br><br>And, yes, this is kind of like the "Is the CD of anything . . . " thread from a different angle.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:35 am 
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Honestly, I'm fine with the current Ryko version of anything that isn't named Shiek Yerbouti, and even that's only really bad in comparison to the EMI and vinyl.  <br><br>From what I gather, a couple of the best sounding releases are Freak Out! and One Size Fits All.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:34 am 
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<br>Any specific b7tches about "Burnt Weeny," "Uncle Meat," "SUAPYG," or "Roxy . . ."???    ???<br><br>I'm looking to buy them.<br><br>Thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:26 am 
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[quote author=Vincent link=board=albums;num=1058887611;start=0#3 date=07/22/03 at 10:54:00]I am happy with all the CD remasters except the one's where the vinyl was changed to a stupid degree like with Crusing with Ruben and the Jets, Sleep Dirt and Hot Rats.[/quote]<br><br><br>What did they do to Sleep Dirt?  Or are you talking about the changes when it was morphed into Lather?<br><br>I think my Ryko of Hot Rats sounds great but then I've never heard the vinyl so perhaps ignorance is bliss or perhaps it's only "worse" to those who've had years of the old mix beaten into their consciousness.  Hard to say.<br><br>I wonder if somebody listened to the Ryko for 10+ years if they'd find the vinyl mixes and masters inferior?<br>


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:28 am 
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[quote author=Mud_Shrimp_Moe link=board=albums;num=1058887611;start=0#4 date=07/22/03 at 11:26:26]<br><br><br>What did they do to Sleep Dirt?  Or are you talking about the changes when it was morphed into Lather?<br><br>[/quote]<br><br>The stuff on Lather is the closest you can get to the original Sleep Dirt on CD.  The CD release of Sleep Dirt however contains vocals on several tracks, which is a spit in the face to a Zappa purist.  I like both versions personally.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:07 pm 
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Rip the vinyl to MP3 and burn it to a CD-R.<br><br>There you go, you have the unremastered version on CD.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:23 pm 
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[quote author=Homsar link=board=albums;num=1058887611;start=0#11 date=07/22/03 at 22:07:44]Rip the vinyl to MP3 and burn it to a CD-R. There you go, you have the unremastered version on CD.[/quote]<br>WAV files sound better! MP3's are all compressed and mostly sound like shit! Besides, a lot of Ryko's remasters are really good:<br>We're Only In It For The Money/Lumpy Gravy (1986)<br>Hot Rats (1995)<br>Waka/Jawaka (1995)<br>The Grand Wazoo (1995)<br>Joe's Garage (1995)<br>Thing-Fish (1995)<br>FZ Meets The Mothers Of Prevention (1995 - includes all 10 tracks from the US and UK lp's)<br>Broadway the Hard Way (1995 -- sounds AMAZING)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:35 pm 
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[quote author=Thing-Fish2003 link=board=albums;num=1058887611;start=0#12 date=07/22/03 at 22:23:10]<br>WAV files sound better! MP3's are all compressed and mostly sound like shit! Besides, a lot of Ryko's remasters are really good:<br>We're Only In It For The Money/Lumpy Gravy (1986)<br>Hot Rats (1995)<br>Waka/Jawaka (1995)<br>The Grand Wazoo (1995)<br>Joe's Garage (1995)<br>Thing-Fish (1995)<br>FZ Meets The Mothers Of Prevention (1995 - includes all 10 tracks from the US and UK lp's)[/quote]<br><br>No problem. Then just rip it to WAV. You can do that, you know.<br><br>Do AIFFs sound any better ? Besides, songs in any format get converted to AIFF when you burn them to Audio CD instead of MP3 CD.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:11 pm 
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Isn't it easier to deck a record deck? Still, that's just me.<br><br>I can't comment on the re-master vs. original thing, as I have no vinyl Zappa. I only have Ryko stuff (that's what happens if you decide to like Zappa in this day and age).

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:50 pm 
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[quote author=SonOfWillieThePimp link=board=albums;num=1058887611;start=15#20 date=09/20/03 at 14:28:32]I think Uncle Meat and Sheik Yerbouti are a bit weird on the Rykodisc reissues, or is it just my ears?[/quote]<br><br><br>Yerbouti is pretty bad in Ryko form, but Uncle Meat sounds fine to me (although it was remastered and contains a remix or two).


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[quote author=SonOfWillieThePimp link=board=albums;num=1058887611;start=15#20 date=09/20/03 at 14:28:32]I think Uncle Meat and Sheik Yerbouti are a bit weird on the Rykodisc reissues, or is it just my ears?[/quote]<br>The Uncle Meat CD bothers me too.  It's the added reverb that does it.  The LP sounds more up front and dry, while the CD sounds really distant and echoey.  I think I read somewhere that Frank added the reverb to cover up noise that was on the master tape.


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