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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:34 pm 
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What's your favorite version, and was their any specific reason Frank updated it for Them Or Us?


I really love the YCDTOSA 3 version. The guitar interplay is great.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:44 pm 
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I really like all versions, love that tune, one that shows FZ's 'feel' side, not the statistical mathematical composer side... I have a special feeling for the Lost Episodes one, but I prefer the original Chunga's one somehow...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:18 pm 
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calvin2hikers wrote:
Was their any specific reason Frank updated it for Them Or Us?



Guess he wanted to, I don't know of another reason. A lot of Flo & Eddie era songs resurfaced with updated arrangements around the Joe's Garage/Tinseltown period - "Easy Meat," "Tell Me You Love Me," "Stick It Out" and so on.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:32 pm 
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Lost Episodes by a mile. Frank's solo kicks ass, Sugarcane's solo kicks ass, and factor in bonus Lancelotti.

ps: good post Cal--I'm interested to see how the forum weighs in on your question.


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Lost Episodes by a mile. Frank's solo kicks ass, Sugarcane's solo kicks ass, and factor in bonus Lancelotti.
And factor in that you don't hear him on this cut. :)


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Although I enjoy Dweezil's wanking on the 1984 YCDTOSA version, The Lost Episodes Sharleena is infinitely better than any other version. Among the later ones, it's a tie between Sharleena Chunga's Revenge and Sharleena Playground Psychotics.

But what an album Chunga's Revenge could have been with the Sugarcane Sharleena + perhaps Bognor Regis, instead of some of the weaker Flo and Eddie tracks! A rival to Hot Rats, I think...

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buffalo_voice wrote:
zomby truth wrote:
Lost Episodes by a mile. Frank's solo kicks ass, Sugarcane's solo kicks ass, and factor in bonus Lancelotti.
And factor in that you don't hear him on this cut. :)


Oops... That's Sugarcane singing, isn't it? Yet another reason why posting and drinking don't mix...


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the lost episodes version is ok, but i really prefer the chunga's revenge version. it sounds like something you could hear on the radio, if the radio played Zappa. i also like the sped up version they played on the Swiss Cheese boot.

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zomby truth wrote:
buffalo_voice wrote:
zomby truth wrote:
Lost Episodes by a mile. Frank's solo kicks ass, Sugarcane's solo kicks ass, and factor in bonus Lancelotti.
And factor in that you don't hear him on this cut. :)


Oops... That's Sugarcane singing, isn't it? Yet another reason why posting and drinking don't mix...

Alcohol and Calculus don't mix: Don't Drink and Derive...

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A version of "Sharleena" sung by Lancelotti is a very interesting concept.


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The Lost Episodes version way out in front for me. One of those 'you must hear this' tracks of fz imo

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I'd have to say the '88 band's version is my favourite. There's something about the combination of singin' by FZ and Ike with FZ's solos that just do it for me like no other version does...

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The Lost Episodes version way out in front for me.
way ahead of the others. yes.

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1.) Chunga
2.) Lost Episodes
3.) 88 band
4.) Them or Us

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:38 am 
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I don´t like Zappa´s eighties rearrangement of Sharleena. I like the Lost Episodes one the most.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:57 pm 
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neeh, nothing comes close to vol. 3 version =) i simply adore that version... my less favorite is 88 version (just like advanced romance)... lost episodes version is also great, one of my favorite posthumous albums to this date...

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One of my fav tunes. I prefer the Chunga version. The Lost Episodes version is a killer as well. The other versions are good as well. It's just a great song.

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Wow! I'm surprised there wasn't a unanimous decision on this one! To me Lost Episodes just slays, completely slays. However, I never met a Sharleena I didn't like, fantastic song I feel, always hits the right spot. Number 2 is YCDTOSA 3, that is special to me. Not sure I've ever heard the 88 version, a booting I shall go!

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Chungas's for me. It was the first I heard, and I fell in love right away :D

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I just listened to the Lost Episodes Sharleena. I"ll stick with my original choice. I never cared for violin in Frank's music, I"m not sure why. Although 50/50 is pretty good.

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I listened to the Dweezil Sharleena from the YCDTOSA sampler on my ancient car stereo yesterday, and it is really a bitchin' take. You gotta love the foot-stomping, head-rolling rythm base, as well as the screaming guitars and Dweezil's pubescent wanking. The vocals are really good, too. But the Sugarcane version will always be the one for me, not least because I love Sugarcane's violin (and voice). To me violin is the best solo instrument in Zappa, next to Frank's guitar. And he learnt so much from his violin players!

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Lost Episodes say I, but you have to appreciate the YCDTOSA 3 version for havinf Dweez on it...Am I correct when I say that is the only FZ release that has DZ on guitar?


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Plook wrote:
Lost Episodes say I, but you have to appreciate the YCDTOSA 3 version for havinf Dweez on it...Am I correct when I say that is the only FZ release that has DZ on guitar?


Doesn't he play on Stevie's Spanking on Them Or Us?

Edit:According to Wikipedia, he also plays on Whipping Post from Does Humor Belong In Music.

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calvin2hikers wrote:
Plook wrote:
Lost Episodes say I, but you have to appreciate the YCDTOSA 3 version for havinf Dweez on it...Am I correct when I say that is the only FZ release that has DZ on guitar?


Doesn't he play on Stevie's Spanking on Them Or Us?

Edit:According to Wikipedia, he also plays on Whipping Post from Does Humor Belong In Music.


DZ also plays on two tracks from Trance-fusion - Chunga's Revenge and Bavarian Sunset.


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The Chunga's Revenge version of Sharleena is my choice. Any of the others are cool, in particular the Lost Episodes one, but the CR version is way out in front for me.

BTW, DZ takes a solo in Sharleena on Them Or Us.

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