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...That civilization will grind to a standstill?
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"Ultimately, who gives [or should give] a fuck anyway?"


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jaypfunk = lil' gay rock-n-roll-star-wannabe ass. He is known for never have been wrong on any Zappa related subject... :twisted:


I'm happy for him on that matter, because he seems to be wrong about everything else! Actually I can't even say that, the only thing I've ever seen him type are insults, he doesn't actually say anything! That I've ever noticed anyways. He did post a hell of a lot of live shows, so I guess we owe him that!

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who gives a fuck anyway...That civilization will grind to a standstill?


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civilization [noun] - a higher stage of civilization - human development, advancement, progress, enlightenment, culture, refinement, sophistication.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

Fuck is an English word that, as a verb, means to engage in sexual intercourse. The word is generally considered very offensive.

It is unclear whether the word has always been considered vulgar, and if not, when it first started to be considered vulgar. Some evidence indicates that in some English-speaking locales it was considered acceptable as late as the 17th century meaning "to strike" or "to penetrate."[1] Other evidence indicates that it may have become vulgar as early as the 16th century in England, although neither set of evidence is inherently contradictory to the other, since many words have multiple connotations. The word became increasingly offensive over time because of its usage to describe (often in an extremely angry, hostile or belligerent manner) negative or unpleasant circumstances or people in an intentionally offensive way, such as in the term "motherfucker", one of its more common usages.

Fuck is used not only as a verb (transitive and intransitive), but also as a noun, interjection, and, occasionally, as an expletive infix. The etymology of the word is uncertain (see below).


Etymology
Sources such as the Oxford English Dictionary contend that the true etymology of fuck is still uncertain but appears to point to an Anglo-Saxon origin.


Flen flyys and freris
The usually accepted first known occurrence is in code in a poem in a mixture of Latin and English composed some time before 1500. The poem, which satirizes the Carmelite friars of Cambridge, England, takes its title, "Flen flyys", from the first words of its opening line, "Flen, flyys, and freris" (= "Fleas, flies, and friars"). The line that contains fuck reads "Non sunt in coeli, quia gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk". Removing the substitution cipher[2] on the phrase "gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk" yields "non sunt in coeli, quia fvccant vvivys of heli", which translated means "they are not in heaven because they fuck wives of Ely" (fvccant is a fake Latin form).[3] The phrase was coded likely because it accused some Church personnel of misbehaving; it is uncertain to what extent the word "fuck" was considered acceptable at the time.


John le Fucker
A man's name "John le Fucker" is said to be reported from AD 1278, but the report is doubtful: an email discussion on Linguist List says:

This name has been exhaustively argued over ... The "John le Fucker" reference first appears in Carl Buck's 1949 Indo-European dictionary. Buck does not supply a citation as to where he found the name. No one has subsequently found the manuscript in which it is alleged to have appeared. If the citation is genuine and not an error, it is most likely a spelling variant of "fulcher", meaning soldier.[4]


Anglo-Saxon
An Anglo-Saxon charter [1] [2] granted by Offa, king of Mercia, dated A.D.772, granting land at Bexhill, Sussex to a bishop, includes the text:

Þonne syndon þa gauolland þas utlandes into Bexlea in hiis locis qui appellantur hiis nominibus: on Berna hornan .iii. hida, on Wyrtlesham .i., on Ibbanhyrste .i., on Croghyrste .viii., on Hrigce .i., on Gyllingan .ii., on Fuccerham 7 and on Blacanbrocan .i., on Ikelesham .iii.;
Then the tax-lands of the outland belonging to Bexley are in these places which are called by these names: at Barnhorne 3 hides, at Wyrtlesham [Worsham farm near Bexhill ] 1, at Ibbanhyrst 1, at Crowhurst 8, at (Rye? The ridge north of Hastings?) 1, at Gillingham 2, at Fuccerham and at Blackbrook [may be Black Brooks in Westfield village just north of Hastings ] 1, at Icklesham 3.
The placename Fuccerham looks like either "the home (hām) of the fucker" or "the enclosed pasture (hamm) of the fucker", who may have been a once-notorious man, or a locally well-known stud male animal.


Older etymology
The word fuck has cognates in other Germanic languages, such as German ficken (to copulate), Dutch fokken (to thrust, copulate, or to breed), dialectical Norwegian fukka (to copulate), and dialectical Swedish focka (to strike, copulate) and fock (penis).

This points to a possible etymology where Common Germanic fuk–, by application of Grimm's law, would have as its most likely Indo-European ancestor *pug–, which appears in Latin and Greek words meaning "fight" and "fist". In early Proto-Germanic the word was likely used at first as a slang or euphemistic replacement for an older word for intercourse, and then became the usual word for intercourse.

Other possible connections are to Latin fūtuere (almost exactly the same meaning as the English verb "to fuck"); but it would have to be explained how the word reached Scandinavia from Roman contact, and how the t became k. From fūtuere came French foutre, Catalan fotre, Italian fottere, Romanian futere, vulgar peninsular Spanish follar and joder, and Portuguese foder). However, there is considerable doubt and no clear lineage for these derivations. These roots, even if cognates, are not the original Indo-European word for to copulate, but Wayland Young (who agrees that these words are related) argues that they derive from the Indo-European *bhu– or *bhug– ("be", "become"), or as causative "create" [see Young, 1964]. A possible intermediate might be a Latin 4th-declension verbal noun *fūtus, with possible meanings including "act of (pro)creating".

The Spanish verb follar has a different origin: according to Spanish etymologists, it (attested in the 19th century) derives via fuelle ("bellows") from Latin folle(m) < Indo-European *bhel–; the old Spanish verb folgar (attested in the 15th century) derived from Latin follicare, also ultimately from follem/follis.

The original Indo-European root for to copulate is likely to be *h3yebh– or *h3eybh–, which is attested in Sanskrit yabhati, Russian ебать (yebat'), Polish jebać, and Serbian јебати (jebati), among others: compare the Greek verb οιφω, and the Greek noun ζεφυρος (ref. a Greek belief that the west wind caused pregnancy).

Other guesses as to etymology include:

Celtic: compare Irish bot and Manx bwoid (penis), Common Celtic *bactuere (to pierce), from the root buc– (a point). [citation needed]
Latin facere = "to make, to do".

False etymologies
One reason that the word fuck is so hard to trace etymologically is that it was used far more extensively in common speech than in easily traceable written forms.

There are several urban-legend false etymologies postulating an acronymic origin for the word. None of these acronyms was ever heard before the 1960s, according to the authoritative lexicographical work, The F-Word, and thus are backronyms. In any event, the word fuck has been in use far too long for some of these supposed origins to be possible. Some of these urban legends are:

That the word fuck came from Irish law. If a couple were caught committing adultery, they would be punished "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge In the Nude", with "FUCKIN" written on the stocks above them to denote the crime.
That it came from any of:
"Fornication Under Carnal/Cardinal Knowledge"
"Fornication Under [the] Control/Consent/Command of the King"
"Fornication Under the Christian King"
"False Use of Carnal Knowledge"
"Felonious Use of Carnal Knowledge"
"Felonious Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
"Full-On Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
"For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
"Found Under Carnal Knowledge"
"Forced Unlawful Carnal Knowledge", referring to the crime of rape.
There are unproved stories that fuck arose as an abbreviation of one of the versions containing "unlawful":

In armed forces log books , when reporting courts martial of men accused of homosexual intercourse. [citation needed]
On tombstones around English cemeteries, referring to being put to death for crimes against the state and the church.[citation needed] No such tombstone has been provably found.

Usage history
Main article: History of the word "fuck"

Early usage
Its first known use as a verb meaning to have sexual intercourse is in "Flen flyys", written around 1475.

William Dunbar's 1503 poem "Brash of Wowing" includes the lines: "Yit be his feiris he wald haue fukkit: / Ye brek my hairt, my bony ane" (ll. 13–14).

Some time around 1600, before the term acquired its current meaning, windfucker was an acceptable name for the bird now known as the kestrel[citation needed].

While Shakespeare never used the term explicitly; he hinted at it in comic scenes in several plays. The Merry Wives of Windsor (IV.i) contains the expression focative case (see vocative case). In Henry V (IV.iv), Pistol threatens to firk (strike) a soldier, a euphemism for fuck. A Midsummer Night's Dream uses the word "foot" to pun on the French equivalent, "foutre".


Rise of Modern Usage
Though it appeared in John Ash's 1775 A New and Complete Dictionary, listed as "low" and "vulgar", and appearing with several definitions[5], Fuck did not appear in any widely-consulted dictionary of the English language from 1795 to 1965. Its first appearance in the Oxford English Dictionary (along with the word cunt) was in 1972.

In 1928, D. H. Lawrence's novel Lady Chatterley's Lover gained notoriety for its frequent use of the words fuck, fucked, and fucking.

Perhaps the earliest usage of the word in popular music was the 1938 Eddy Duchin release of the Louis Armstrong song "Ol' Man Mose". The words created a scandal at the time, resulting in sales of 170,000 copies during the Great Depression years when sales of 20,000 were considered blockbuster. The verse reads:

(We believe) He kicked the bucket,
(We believe) Yeah man, buck-buck-bucket,
(We believe) He kicked the bucket and ol' man mose is dead,
(We believe) Ahh, fuck it!
(We believe) Buck-buck-bucket,
(We believe) He kicked the bucket and ol' man mose is dead.

The liberal usage of the word (and other vulgarisms) by certain artists (such as James Joyce, Henry Miller, Lenny Bruce, and Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, in their Derek and Clive personas) has led to the banning of their works and criminal charges of obscenity.

After Norman Mailer's publishers convinced him to bowdlerize fuck as fug in his work The Naked and the Dead (1948), Tallulah Bankhead supposedly greeted him with the quip, "So you're the young man who can't spell fuck." In fact, according to Mailer, the quip was devised by Bankhead's PR man. He and Bankhead didn't meet until 1966 and did not discuss the word then. The rock group The Fugs named themselves after the Mailer euphemism.

The science fiction novel That Hideous Strength (1945), by C.S. Lewis, includes lines of dialog with the word bucking used the same way as fugging would be in Mailer's novel, published three years later.

In his novel Ulysses (1922), James Joyce used a sly spelling pun for fuck (and cunt as well) with the doggerel verse:

If you see Kay,
Tell him he may.
See you in tea,
Tell him from me.

Memphis Slim had a melancholy blues about lost love entitled "If You See Kay".

The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger featured an early use of fuck you in print. First published in the United States in 1951, the novel remains controversial to this day due to its use of the word, and offers a blunt portrayal of the main character's reaction to the existence of the word, and all that it means.[citation needed]

The Australian vaudeville comedian Roy Rene once had a comedy 'skit' where he would act with another person and would write the letter 'F' on a blackboard (on stage) and then ask his co-actor: 'What letter do you see' to which he would reply: 'K'. Mo would then say: 'Why is it that whenever I write F you see K?'

The first use of the word fuck on British television came on November 13, 1965 on the satirical show BBC-3 (no relation to the present channel of that name). The theatre critic Kenneth Tynan declared, apropos of nothing, that "I doubt if there are any rational people to whom the word 'fuck' would be particularly diabolical, revolting or totally forbidden." Kenneth Tynan was soon-after fired for his free use of the word.[citation needed]

One of the earliest mainstream Hollywood movies to use the word fuck was director Robert Altman's irreverent antiwar film, MASH, released in 1970 at the height of the Vietnam War. During the football game sequence about three-quarters of the way through the film, one of the MASH linemen says to an 8063rd offensive player, "All right, bud, your fuckin' head is coming right off." Also, former Beatle John Lennon's 1971 release "Working Class Hero" featured use of the word, which was rare in music at the time and caused it to, at most, be played only in segments on the radio. In 2007, some 36 years later, Green Day did a cover of Lennon's song, which was censored for radio airplay, with the "Ph.." sound being audible but then phased out.

Former Saturday Night Live cast member Charles Rocket uttered the vulgarity in one of the earliest instances of its use on television, during a 1980 episode of the show, for which he was subsequently fired.[citation needed]

Comedian George Carlin once commented that the word fuck ought to be considered more appropriate, because of its implications of love and reproduction, than the violence exhibited in many movies. He humorously suggested replacing the word kill with the word fuck in his comedy routine, such as in an old movie western: "Okay, sheriff, we're gonna fuck you, now. But we're gonna fuck you slow..." Or, perhaps at a baseball game: "Fuck the ump, fuck the ump, fuck the ump!" More popularly published is his famous "Filthy Words" routine, better known as "Seven Words You Can Never Say On Television."





Use in politics
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Fuck is not widely used in politics, and because of this[citation needed], any use by notable politicians tends to produce controversy. Some events of this nature include:

During the 1968 Democratic National Convention, Chicago mayor Richard Daley became so enraged by a speech from Abraham A. Ribicoff that he shouted "Fuck you, you Jew motherfucker!" Daley would later claim that he was shouting "you fink, you" and calling Ribicoff a "faker."
During a 1971 debate in the House of Commons, Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau mouthed the words "fuck off" under his breath (perhaps almost silently) at Conservative MP John Lundrigan, while Lundrigan made some comments about unemployment. Afterward, when asked by a television reporter what he said, Mr. Trudeau famously replied "Oh, I don't know... fuddle duddle, or something like that". "Fuddle duddle" consequently became a catchphrase in Canadian media associated with Trudeau.
The first modern use in the British House of Commons came in 1982 when Reg Race, Labour MP for Wood Green, referred to adverts placed in local newsagents by prostitutes which read "Phone them and fuck them". Hansard, the full record of debates, printed "f*** them", but even this euphemism was deprecated by the Speaker, George Thomas.
Shortly after Tony Blair was elected Leader of the Labour Party, the then left-wing Labour MP George Galloway told a public meeting "I don't give a fuck what Tony Blair thinks" when questioned about the party's move to the right.
In late 2003, US presidential candidate Senator John Kerry used the word fuck in an interview with Rolling Stone. Referring to his vote in favor of the resolution authorizing President George W. Bush to use military force in Iraq, Senator John Kerry stated, "I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything'? Sure. Did I expect George Bush to fuck it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."[6]
In June 2004, US Vice President Dick Cheney told Senator Patrick Leahy to either "fuck off" or "go fuck yourself" during an exchange on the floor of the Senate,[7] to which Patrick Leahy cried foul.
In February 2006 (Australia), New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma, while awaiting the start of a COAG media conference in Canberra, was chatting to Victorian Premier Steve Bracks. Not realizing cameras were operating he was recorded as saying "Today? This fuckwit who's the new CEO of the Cross City Tunnel has ... been saying what controversy? There is no controversy."[8] The exchange referred to the newly appointed CEO of a recently-opened toll road within Sydney.

Use in marketing
In April 1997, clothing retailer French Connection began branding their clothes "fcuk" (usually written in lowercase). Though they insisted it was an acronym for French Connection United Kingdom, its similarity to the word "fuck" caused controversy.[9] French Connection fully exploited this and produced an extremely popular range of t-shirts with messages such as "fcuk this", "hot as fcuk", "mile high fcuk", "fcuk me", "too busy to fcuk", "fcuk football", "fcuk fashion", "fcuk fear", "fcuk on the beach", etc. The company recently announced that the "fcuk" label is to be phased out.


Freedom of expression
In 1971, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the mere public display of fuck is protected under the First and Fourteenth Amendments and cannot be made a criminal offense. In 1968, Paul Robert Cohen had been convicted of "disturbing the peace" for wearing a jacket with "FUCK THE DRAFT" on it (in reference to conscription in the Vietnam War). The conviction was upheld by the Court of Appeals and overturned by the Supreme Court. Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).

In 1983, pornographer Larry Flynt, representing himself before the U.S. Supreme Court in a libel case, shouted, "Fuck this court!" during the proceedings, and then called the justices "nothing but eight assholes and a token cunt" (referring to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor). Chief Justice Warren E. Burger had him arrested for contempt of court, but the charge was later dismissed on a technicality.[10]


Popular usage
In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission fines stations for the broadcast of "indecent language", but in 2003 the agency's enforcement bureau ruled that the airing of the statement "This is really, really fucking brilliant!" by U2 member Bono after receiving a Golden Globe Award was neither obscene nor indecent. As U.S. broadcast indecency regulation only extends to depictions or descriptions of sexual or excretory functions, Bono's use of the word as a mere intensifier was not covered.

In early 2004, the full Commission reversed the bureau ruling, in an order that stated that "the F-word is one of the most vulgar, graphic and explicit descriptions of sexual activity in the English language"; a fine, however, has yet to result. Notwithstanding widespread usage and linguistic analysis to the contrary, the reversal was premised on the conclusion that the word fuck has always referred to sexual activity, a claim that the FCC neither explained nor supported with evidence. Even on cable television, which is not regulated by the FCC, few channels in the United States will broadcast the word fuck due to fear of backlash from advertisers or the FCC.

The British television show T.F.I Friday officially stood for "Thank Four It's Friday" (the reference to Four being Channel Four on which the show was broadcast). However, it was widely understood in fact to stand for "Thank Fuck It's Friday"; it has been suggested that it would have been broadcast with that title had it not been decided to broadcast it before the watershed. The show also holds the record for the most frequent use of the word fuck to a pre-watershed audience, owing to guest Shaun Ryder using the word 9 times whilst impersonating the Sex Pistols' Johnny Rotten, despite the best efforts of Channel 4. Ryder is now the only person to appear by name in the Channel 4 policy document.[11] The show inspired another show named O.F.I Sunday, or "Oh Fuck It's Sunday". Although for decades the word was widely considered taboo on British television, at most only appearing in late night programmes and films on secondary channels BBC Two and Channel Four, and even then edited or faded out on occasion; by 2006 there appear to be few limitations on the use of the word after the 9pm watershed, and it is commonly used.


Common alternatives
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In conversation or writing, reference to or use of the word fuck may be replaced by any of a large list of alternative words or phrases, including "the F-word" or "the F-Bomb" (a play on A-Bomb / H-Bomb), or simply, "eff" (as in "What the eff!" or "You eff-ing fool!"). In addition, there are many commonly used substitutes, such as flipping, frigging, fricking, freaking, fire-truck or any of a number of similar sounding nonsense words. It may also be called "F-sharp" (as in the musical note)[citation needed] or "the Effenheimer". The overuse of swear words is often called "F-ing and blinding". In print, there are alternatives such as, "F***", "F - - k", etc.; or the use of a string of non-alphanumeric characters, for example, "@$#*%!" (especially favored in comic books).

In the popular 1983 film, A Christmas Story, Ralph, the main character, says the offensive word, but written into the script is its own censorship, for the audience only hears the boy say fudge. The highly popular comedy Meet the Parents spawned a 2004 sequel with the eponymous title, Meet the Fockers.

In some television science fiction shows, altered versions of the word have been created to allow characters to express themselves without getting into trouble with the censors. For example, in Farscape the word is frell, and in Battlestar Galactica the word is frack, while Red Dwarf uses smeg in a similar context. In the series Firefly, the characters will often switch to Mandarin to swear, again avoiding any accusations of indecency. A similar ploy was used in the Irish sitcom Father Ted, where the characters regularly say feck (although the term was not invented by the show's creators).

In the science-fiction Future Dystopic British comic 2000 AD and Judge Dredd the words 'Drokk' and 'Stomm' were created by the authors to avoid the censorship issue during the 1970s, whilst also creating expletives that still had the carthartic release mechanism by the way it sounded when voiced by the main character.

In the science fiction series by Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the word fuck is replaced in common usage by the characters as zark. In the book So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish, the narrator openly uses the word in the sexual connotation. In the original version of Life, the Universe and Everything the word is a basis of a short joke. In the U.S. version, however, it is replaced with the word Belgium and a scene from the radio series involving that word is added almost verbatim, although in a completely different context.[12]

In the popular NBC television series Scrubs, female doctor Elliot Reid consistently uses the word "frick."

A common replacement word used mainly on the internet is "fsck", derived from the name of the Unix file system checking utility.


Other languages

Afrikaans
In Afrikaans, the slang word fok has been adopted as an Afrikaans equivalent of fuck (and fokkof as "fuck off"), due to the influence of English media and language in South Africa. In Dutch, the word fok does also exist, but it means "to breed". In the past it was sometimes used to indicate sexual intercourse, but this is no longer the case. In Afrikaans the strong expletive for sexual intercourse has always been and remains naai. Coincidentally, the Afrikaans word neuk, which resembles neuken, a Dutch equivalent of fuck, is used in the context of to strike.[citation needed]


Chinese languages
The Shanghainese verb and adjective 发格 fage is derived from the English "fuck" and is used in the exasperated context of things or people "fucking up" or "being difficult." Although fage is often used pejoratively, the term has lost its sexual connotations. In Cantonese, the slang word 屌 diu is used in a similar way as the English word "fuck." Similar terms in Mandarin are 肏 cào (sometimes written 操), 幹 (simplified 干) gàn, and 搞 gǎo, the latter used more commonly in Taiwan.


French
In French, the word for seal (the animal) is phoque; the word for foresail is foc. Their pronunciation in French resembles that of the word fuck in English. In France, phoque or foc sounds like the British pronunciation of fuck while in Québec French, they sound like the North American English pronunciation, due to regional influences (although this actually is coincidental, and has neither term has any relation to the English word). As well, the English term has been adopted as the adjective fucké, a slang term commonly used in Québec French to describe something that is broken or off-kilter, or someone who is not in their right mind. It is not considered particularly offensive.

In Québec, the French word tabernacle, meaning the church tabernacle, is often used in the same way as fuck in English, except in sexual-related usage. It is only used as interjection, noun or adverb. Other Québécois-French swear words (which are pretty much all of clergical origin) such as Christ, calice (chalice) and hostie (communion wafer or host) are much more versatile, particularly when used in combination. Although commonly used, these terms are considered much worse since they are blasphemous, rather than merely vulgar (the words would be comparable to the use of goddammit in the English language). They are widely used as the only remaining part of the backlash against the domination of Québec society by the Roman Catholic church, which lasted until the "Quiet Revolution" of the 1960s.

Note that in Québec French, English swearwords such as "shit" (or the French equivalent, merde) and "fuck" are considered to be much less offensive than if used in the same context for an English speaking person, since they are merely vulgar, or crude, and not blasphemous.


German
The word "to fuck" literally translates as ficken, but the force of "fuck" usually equates with Scheiße (shit), or Mist (crap or manure). Nonetheless the exclamation "fuck" itself has been borrowed into German as a swear word and is in occasional to frequent use among some (especially younger) Germans. Ficken is used much in the same way fuck is used in English and has a pronounced vulgar meaning for other (especially older) speakers.

Official censorship for language or voluntary "self-censorship" is far less common in German. The using of alternative expressions like "the F word" is highly uncommon (although Scheiße may be sometimes seen as Sch...). In addition, geographical regions differ with respect to usage and perceived profanity of swear words.[citation needed]

In the German language there are germanized forms of the word, like the pseudo-anglicism abgefuckt "fucked up". German as a language, especially in colloquial and often young slang, borrows deeply from English, including a limited number of English swear words; the two most common examples are fuck and shit (although North German Schiete also means "shit," but is not a loan word). Scheiße is fairly well understood as an expletive among English speakers, although often mis-pronounced with medial [z] instead of [s].

The verb ficken is historically used also in a non-sexual context, but still is related to friction. Examples include:

ein Schwert ficken: the process of cleaning Slag, Tinder and Ash off a Sword's blade after blacksmithing it; this is done by hanging a Sandbag from the ceiling, lancing the blade through it and then quickly moving the sword back and forth until the blade is clean
More recently, the abbreviation FAQ has been used on German websites and forums, for example on the German wikipedia subsite. The pronunciation is not clearly defined: each letter can be pronounced separately (ˌɛf eɪ ˈkjuː) or as one syllable (fɐk, which is similar to the US American pronunciation of fuck). Due to this coincidence (and also to avoid confusion regarding the abbreviation in itself), the acronym FAQ is generally changed into the full term "Frequently Asked Questions" or into the literal German translation "Häufig gestellte Fragen" in formal everyday speech.


Japanese
Japanese has the word fakku (ファック, fakku?). The term is a foreign loan from English, but the pronunciation has been adapted to the Japanese phonology. Semantic usage is not as broad as English as it is only used as a slang term for sexual intercourse. [13]


Norwegian
In Norwegian, the word fokk means either foresail or something that gets blown in strong wind; drifting snow (snøfokk) or streaks of foam and spray at sea.[14] A Norwegian expletive which is somewhat analogous to the English fuck is the word faen. This is short for fanden, a Norwegian word for devil.[citation needed] Knulle or pule is the most vulgar Norwegian colloquialism describing sexual intercourse. It is also common to use fuck in Norwegian conversations, like "fuck dette, jeg vil gjøre noe annet", ("fuck this, I want to do something else").[citation needed]


Swedish
In Swedish, the morpheme fack is pronounced almost identically to the English fuck, and means a box or compartment, for example a letterbox for internal mail. As a prefix, the morpheme fack refers to something pertaining to a certain trade or profession, for example in the words facklitteratur (literature pertaining to a certain profession) and fackförening (trade union, colloquially referred to as facket (= "the fack")).

Fuck can also be used in colloquial Swedish as an English loan word, with basically the same meanings as in English.[citation needed]


Welsh
In the Welsh language fuck has been transliterated as ffwc or ffwcio which is basically pronounced the same and has the same meaning as in English.

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who gives a fuck anyway...That civilization will grind to a standstill?


from Thesaurus:
civilization [noun] - a higher stage of civilization - human development, advancement, progress, enlightenment, culture, refinement, sophistication.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

Fuck is an English word that, as a verb, means to engage in sexual intercourse. The word is generally considered very offensive........


This post seems way too long.

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Baddy! Thanks for the best demonstration of fuck I've encountered yet! Uh.....that is, the best etymology I've come upon to date!

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hey baddy!

you're familiar with the term fiat, as in an imperial edict to do something?
you may know that the verb this form comes from is facio (= 'I do'), and facere = 'to do' or 'to make'.
Fiat is the present subjunctive (third person singular) passive form of that verb so it can be used in a hortatory fashion, > fiat = 'it shall be done'.
>yah?<
well, the active single imperative form of facere
is

fac = 'do it', 'make it'

. . .
so the most basic rudimentary latin word for 'doing it', for 'making it', spread by all those Roman legions spread out over the northern provinces and the literate clergy playing their little word games for millenia . . .
in the past tense is literally = 'factus'
. . .
or a useful phrase for 'we're fucked' or 'we're done for, 'we been made'?: facti sumus
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zappagirl wrote:
baddy wrote:
Lumpy Gravy wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
who gives a fuck anyway...That civilization will grind to a standstill?


from Thesaurus:
civilization [noun] - a higher stage of civilization - human development, advancement, progress, enlightenment, culture, refinement, sophistication.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

Fuck is an English word that, as a verb, means to engage in sexual intercourse. The word is generally considered very offensive........


This post seems way too long.
OK, zappagirl, you've earned it! You have interpolated yourself between me and Baddy with a dumb-ass post! You now are in possession of your very own Battie Award! It is now yours and yours for all time, irrevocably!!! Voici! ---> Image

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Batchain1001 wrote:
zappagirl wrote:
baddy wrote:
Lumpy Gravy wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
who gives a fuck anyway...That civilization will grind to a standstill?


from Thesaurus:
civilization [noun] - a higher stage of civilization - human development, advancement, progress, enlightenment, culture, refinement, sophistication.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

Fuck is an English word that, as a verb, means to engage in sexual intercourse. The word is generally considered very offensive........


This post seems way too long.
OK, zappagirl, you've earned it! You have interpolated yourself between me and Baddy with a dumb-ass post! You now are in possession of your very own Battie Award! It is now yours and yours for all time; irrevocable!!! Voici!

--Bat :evil: :lol:


Wait......you're saying my post is dumb?? Isn't that what I said about your post? What, now I call you a jerk and you respond "no, you're a jerk"? Real mature, a picture of shit. You must be very lonely. How old are you, 10?

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zappagirl wrote:
Batchain1001 wrote:
zappagirl wrote:
baddy wrote:
Lumpy Gravy wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
who gives a fuck anyway...That civilization will grind to a standstill?


from Thesaurus:
civilization [noun] - a higher stage of civilization - human development, advancement, progress, enlightenment, culture, refinement, sophistication.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

Fuck is an English word that, as a verb, means to engage in sexual intercourse. The word is generally considered very offensive........


This post seems way too long.
OK, zappagirl, you've earned it! You have interpolated yourself between me and Baddy with a dumb-ass post! You now are in possession of your very own Battie Award! It is now yours and yours for all time; irrevocable!!! Voici!

--Bat :evil: :lol:


Wait......you're saying my post is dumb?? Isn't that what I said about your post? What, now I call you a jerk and you respond "no, you're a jerk"? Real mature, a picture of shit. You must be very lonely. How old are you, 10?
No, you didn't call my post "dumb", I said yours was a "dumb-ass" post. Learn to read! And after all your squawking about wanting to receive a Battie Award you piss and moan about finally getting one? There's just no pleasing you woman! Just take your shitty Battie Award and display it proudly! :wink:

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This have been posted before but what the fuck?

Fuck Yourself
Lyrics by Steve Vai


Fuck yourself with a rubber hose
Stick it in your mouth and down your throat
Up your nose and in your heinie hole
I don't care where it goes
And it don't matter if you're straight or gay
You should fuck yourself anyway
Now, you don't have to listen to a word I say
But I know you, you'll be humpin' away
Fuck yourself with your neighbor's nose
If you can't use that, use a 10-foot pole
Stick it up your ass and go for a stroll
Everyone will know you've been to this show
If you can't take, eat my stool
Masturbate with some crazy glue
I don't care what you do
Fuck yourself with a garden tool
Fuck yourself with politics
Ahh they're full of fuckin' fuckin' shit
I mean you know we've been lied to ever since we were born
It's amazing that we've been getting fucked that long
Fuck yourself with the world wide web
Man you could ride that sucker right from your bed
You may even meet a Tom, Dick, Jane or Billy
Then grab onto your modem and fuck yourself silly
Fuck yourself with your heart and soul
Give it everything you got, hey I'm talkin' to you
If you can't even fuck yourself,
How ya gonna fuck somebody else?
Fuck yourself with my microphone
I'll give it to you later when we're all alone
We can turn it up loud
And see if you come, but
Don't get your jizz on my microphone
Fuck yourself with organized religion
Now that is some seriously sinnin' business
If the Lord sees their pathetic crimes
He'll be fuckin' them 'til the end of time
And can someone explain to me this racist crap
I know it isn't white, but it isn't black
And to all you people who only see things your way
Well, you can suck my dick and take all day
Fuck your nose with a pound of blow
Watch your money get up and go
but when you burnt your brain and you say
I don't know!
I hate to tell you but I told you so
Fuck yourself with this grunge rock noise
I mean, stuff those albums in your groin
They come down on me because I know how to play -
Hey... fuck you!
Fuck yourself with a copy of Rolling Stone
Or are they too holy for your holiest of holes
Now those people think they're holier than Moses
But aren't they just a bunch of fuckin' posers
Fuck yourself with your mother's jewelry
I won't tell, I ain't a stooly
If you pounce hard enough you'll cough up a ruby
Your blood will be rich and so will your doodie
Fuck yourself with the latest fashion
With your spikes and your hair and those cute little buttons
And if you happen to have some leather and lace
Fuck yourself 'til you're blue in the face
Fuck yourself with your income tax
They're fucking you and that's a fact
Before you know it your money's all spent
And you've just been fucked by the government
Fuck yourself with your lawyer friend
You're the only one that's getting fucked in the end
I have been so fucked by legal bills
that my asshole is the size of Beverly Hills
Fuck yourself with your full-length sweater
With your minks and your diamonds and your Irish Setter
With your cash and your trash and your sinks and your drinks
Just fuck yourself 'til you can't even think
Those of you who enjoy this song
thank you thank you, I love you
Let's get it on
But for those of you who are totally outraged
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Well fuck you bat you never gave me a bowl of fresh fecal matter as a present ever!

Oh wait, so a battie award is not a good thing then?

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History of the word fuck
(Monty Python)

Perhaps one of the most interesting words in the English language today, is the word fuck. Of all the English words beginning with f, fuck is the single one referred to as the "f-word". It's the one magical word. Just by it's sound it can describe pain, pleasure, hate and love. Fuck, as most of the other words in English, has arrived from Germany. Fuck from German's "fliechen" which mean to strike. In English, fuck folds into many grammatical categories. As a transital verb for instance, "John fucked Shirley". As an intransitive verb; "Shirley fucks". It's meaning is not always sexual, it can be used as an adjective such as; John's doing all the fucking work. As part of an adverb; "Shirley talks too fucking much", as an adverb enhancing an adjective; Shirley is fucking beautiful. As a noun; "I don't give a fuck". As part of a word: "abso-fucking-lutely" or "in-fucking-credible". Or as almost every word in a sentence: "fuck the fucking fuckers!". As you must realize, there aren't many words with the versitility such as the word fuck,as in these examples used as the following words;
- fraud: "I got fucked"
- trouble: "I guess I'm really fucked now"
- dismay: "Oh, fuck it!"
- aggresion: "don't fuck with me, buddy!"
- difficulty: "I don't understand this fucking question"
- inquery: "who the fuck was that?"
- dissatisfaction: "I don't like what the fuck is going on here"
- incompetence: "he's a fuck-off!"
- dismissal: "why don't you go outside and fuck yourself?"

I'm sure you can think of many more examples.
With all these multipurpoused applications, how can anyone be offended when you use the word?
Use this unique, flexibel word more often in your daily speech. It will identify the quality of your character immediately. Say it loudly and proudly:

......................................FUCK YOU!

http://kekepower.com/musikk/Fuck.mp3 (listen to the text, and fuck you!)

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No, you didn't call my post "dumb", I said yours was a "dumb-ass" post. Learn to read! And after all your squawking about wanting to receive a Battie Award you piss and moan about finally getting one? There's just no pleasing you woman! Just take your shitty Battie Award and display it proudly! :wink:

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ZappaGirl doesn't quite realize how truly lucky she is ! It must be the shock factor! Congrats on you Batty award there Zappagirl....you deserved it....and we really mean it!

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THIS is what makes the internet so great!

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Lol to Mr Naynowned :)

And batty, how'd you get your pee to precipitate to the bottom like that, mine always mixes in with the water :)

I wasn't aware I was having a fued with zappagirl, did I miss something?

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Awh fuck, the [batty] shit did hit the fan...

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