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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:18 pm 
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"Busted: Ron Paul racist rant caught on tape"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Cn4svUfd0

"If we repealed most of the laws on drugs and the UNFAIRNESS in which blacks are treated, it would be a big improvement."

"Inner city folks are treated UNFAIRLY. Blacks make up 14% of those who use drugs, yet 36% of those arrested are blacks and 63% of those who end up in prision are black. This has to change.

"If you're rich you get away with it. If you're poor and from the inner city you're more likely to be prosecuted and convicted."

Rosa Parks* is one of my heros, Martin Luther Kink is a hero because they practiced the libertarian principle of civil disobedience and non-violence."

I would pardon all whites and blacks for non violent drug crimes.

I've heard democrats fearful of RP attack him for voting against an 18, 000 award for Rosa parks action, citing this as racism. He voted against it because it is not in the constitution to spend 18, 000 of taxpayer money on such awards. I agree and further say if someone wants to contribute to something in memory of Rosa Parks' actions, write a personal check and send your own money in, and dont force me to unconstitutionally pay for something I didn't freely decide to pay for. Same for the fearful democrats who attacked him for not voting for the unconstitutional sending of taxpayer money it Israel for schools. We have out own kids to educate, if somebody wants to get out their checkbook and send money to Israely schools, be my guest, but send your money, not mine.

But really it's a downlevel issue...one might cite Obama's bombing of thousands of innocents in Pakastan, Afghanastan, Yemen, and so on discrimination against people in other countries that don't like us invading them...I suppose one who knew ahead of time their vote was going to be used for such unfair bombing, but voted for the bombing anyways (to get obama care and put the insurance companys in charge of our health care), could be called something...for example, I define evil as knowing ahead of time that people will be hurt by ones actions for personal gain, but going ahead and doing it anyways, as the most pure definition of evil. And a question may be how strong is evil that results in the deaths of thousands of innocents. Worse yet when there is no remorse, when one goes on to defend their evil actions and invite others to join them.

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"The Reality of Lesser-Evil"

IS THIS CHILD DEAD ENOUGH FOR YOU?


by CHRIS FLOYD


To all those now hailing the re-election of Barack Obama as a triumph of decent, humane, liberal values over the oozing-postule perfidy of the Republicans, a simple question:

Is this child dead enough for you?

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Is he dead enough for you?

Dead enough not to disturb your victory dance in any way? Dead enough not to trouble the inauguration parties yet to come? Dead enough not to diminish, even a little bit, your exultant glee at the fact that this great man, a figure of integrity, decency, honor and compassion, will be able to continue his noble leadership of the best nation in the history of the world?

Do you have children? Do they sit your house playing happily? Do they sleep sweetly scrunched up in their warm beds at night? Do they chatter and prattle like funny little birds as you eat with them at the family table? Do you love them? Do you treasure them? Do you consider them fully-fledged human beings, beloved souls of infinite worth?

How would you feel if you saw them ripped to shreds by flying shrapnel, in your own house? How would you feel as you rushed them to the hospital, praying every step of the way that another missile won’t hurl down on you from the sky? Your child was innocent, you had done nothing, were simply living your life in your own house — and someone thousands of miles away, in a country you had never seen, had no dealings with, had never harmed in any way, pushed a button and sent chunks of burning metal into your child’s body. How would you feel as you watched him die, watched all your hopes and dreams for him, all the hours and days and years you would have to love him, fade away into oblivion, lost forever?

What would you think about the one who did this to your child? Would you say: “What a noble man of integrity and decency! I’m sure he is acting for the best.”

Is that what you would say if shrapnel from a missile blew into your comfortable house and killed your own beloved little boy? You would not only accept, understand, forgive, shrug it off, move on — you would actively support the person who did it, you would cheer his personal triumphs and sneer at all those who questioned his moral worthiness and good intentions? Is that really what you would do?

Well, that is what you are doing when you shrug off the murder of little Naeemullah. You are saying he is not worth as much as your child. You are saying he is not a fully-fledged human being, a beloved soul of infinite worth. You are saying that you support his death, you are happy about it, and you want to see many more like it. You are saying it doesn’t matter if this child — or a hundred like him, or a thousand like him, or, as in the Iraqi sanctions of the old liberal lion, Bill Clinton, five hundred thousand children like Naeemullah — are killed in your name, by leaders you cheer and support. You are saying that the only thing that matters is that someone from your side is in charge of killing these children. This is the reality of “lesser evilism.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/11/09/ ... h-for-you/

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Obama victory infuriates Pakistani drone victims


(Reuters) - The roars celebrating the re-election of U.S. President Barack Obama on television give Mohammad Rehman Khan a searing headache, as years of grief and anger come rushing back.

The 28-year-old Pakistani accuses the president of robbing him of his father, three brothers and a nephew, all killed in a U.S. drone aircraft attack a month after Obama first took office.

"The same person who attacked my home has gotten re-elected," he told Reuters in the capital, Islamabad, where he fled after the attack on his village in South Waziristan, one of several ethnic Pashtun tribal areas on the Afghan border.

"Since yesterday, the pressure on my brain has increased. I remember all of the pain again."

In his re-election campaign, Obama gave no indication he would halt or alter the drone program, which he embraced in his first term to kill al Qaeda and Taliban militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan without risking American lives.

Drone strikes are highly unpopular among many Pakistanis, who consider them a violation of sovereignty that cause unacceptable civilian casualties.

"Whenever he has a chance, Obama will bite Muslims like a snake. Look at how many people he has killed with drone attacks," said Haji Abdul Jabar, whose 23-year-old son was killed in such a bombing.

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Well, at least the democrats got obamacare out of it.

And if you ask some hard core democrats why these innocent childen died, what was the reason, what did ther get out of it... the answer will be a Ron Paul attack.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:47 pm 
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SPACEBROTHER wrote:
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It's not an opinion that Birthers are racists.

Birthers came about only when the first black man became president.



I must have missed that study . Can you post a link that takes out the opinion element and substitutes factual data ?


Seriously , Spacer , I urge you get on the un-affordable health care program and seek some mental health services for your tunnel vision.
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Threaten anybody with a gun lately? :roll:





Hey SFB , everyone on this forum knows I never threatened you , or anyone else , with a gun.
Everyone knows except you , loser.

That shit is like 6 tours old.

Got anything new ? Like factual proof of your above statement about the correlation between racists and birthers ?

Nah , didn't think so , just more cyclops thinking from the only man on the planet to save the afro american race.
Gosh , what a swell guy . :roll: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:06 pm 
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Ah, so you are neither denying it nor or are you not denying it!
In any case, some might argue you're deep in denial.


Nope.

But I'll tell you what I did initially do: I didn't NECESSARILY deny it.

Meanwhile, I'm STILL waitin' for tweedle-dumb to take his meds, so he can attempt to actually answer my questions and disprove my points...

And lastly, baddy provides THE TRUTH...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:53 pm 
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Ah, so posting the following...


Disco Boy wrote:
Uhhh...according the to second quote, unless Ron Paul is oddly referring to himself, it isn't his quote. In fact, according to the above, there is NO person associated with the second quote. And regardless if it was his quote or not, if someone really wants to semantically entangle themselves in a thorough debate over this, then depending on the context of the FULL statement which isn't provided, it appears the speaker is discussing black people specifically as a collective and probably wouldn't be able to make their point without referring to them any other way...


... is not necessarily denying it! :idea:

Now that I know that you specifically post in order to not necessarily deny things, much becomes clear.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:09 pm 
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Caputh wrote:
Ah, so posting the following...


Disco Boy wrote:
Uhhh...according the to second quote, unless Ron Paul is oddly referring to himself, it isn't his quote. In fact, according to the above, there is NO person associated with the second quote. And regardless if it was his quote or not, if someone really wants to semantically entangle themselves in a thorough debate over this, then depending on the context of the FULL statement which isn't provided, it appears the speaker is discussing black people specifically as a collective and probably wouldn't be able to make their point without referring to them any other way...


... is not necessarily denying it! :idea:

Now that I know that you specifically post in order to not necessarily deny things, much becomes clear.


Excellent! You've earned 1 more point!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:34 am 
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baddy wrote:
Rosa Parks* is one of my heros, Martin Luther Kink is a hero because they practiced the libertarian principle of civil disobedience and non-violence."

Ron Paul said he voted for Martin Luther King Day. Is he a liar? You be the judge...
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Ron Paul said he voted for Martin Luther King Day.


He voted against Martin Luther King Day.

House Vote #289 (Aug 2, 1983)



TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS H.R. 3706, A BILL AMENDING TITLE 5, UNITED STATES CODE TO MAKE? THE BIRTHDAY OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., A LEGAL PUBLIC HOLIDAY. (MOTION PASSED;2/3 REQUIRED)



Nay TX-22 Paul, Ronald [R]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xp ... sort;=name



When you dust away the anti-Obama snowstorm, you can clearly see that he ignored Ron Paul's desperation to do damage control on his, ahem, racial issues.


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Hey SFB , everyone on this forum knows I never threatened you , or anyone else , with a gun.
Everyone knows except you , loser.

That shit is like 6 tours old.

Got anything new ? Like factual proof of your above statement about the correlation between racists and birthers ?

Nah , didn't think so , just more cyclops thinking from the only man on the planet to save the afro american race.
Gosh , what a swell guy . :roll: :lol:


:P


So when you told me that you would see just how many gun barrels you could fit into my mouth if I showed up in your town, and obviously most everybody here has read that post, you are denying having posted this?
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9955&p=538195&hilit=gun+barrels+mouth#p538195
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You want a threat SpaceHead ? Come to a few neighborhoods in this town , nah , we'll go across the river to Kentucky and I'll show you some real racists , and you can spew what you have on this forum , for the past 5 years , and then we'll see just how many gun barrels fit in your mouth.


By the way, if you really have to ask for proof if there is a correlation between birthers and racists, you are either... a) in denial b) a liar c) a birther d) a closet racist or d) all of the above. I know at least two of the choices fit your personality type based on your responses on this forum towards me.



A little off topic for this thread, but this is another prime example of the reactions of some people when confronted with an uncomfortable truth.


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If I were to call our pResident a white-trash honky pinko commie alien, would that be racist?


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Because he is white.

His real dad is a known communist.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... echild.php

He may or may not have been technically born in the USA, but he spent much of his childhood growing up and going to school in foreign lands. That's alien enough for me, birth certificate or not.

I just threw in "honky" for flow.


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White trash dope-smoking honky motherfucker.


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Is that racist?


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I think so, because there's no humour or irony in what you say.
I emigrated to australia in 1992. Two years later, I received autralian citizenship.
Pretty much everything that i was entitled to or that what was expected of me was came with it. I was less australian than the aborginals, but it irked other australians if I said I was as australian as they were, more so because I chose to go there and 'be australian', more than moaning bastards who were born there had no choice but to stay. I left 6 years later, I still have australian citizenship. I don't feel australian now, and I won't claim to be.
Maybe I'll emigrate to USA instead, and I'll be as american as you, rope. Moreso maybe.
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True but you won't qualify for the presidency .

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SPACEBROTHER wrote:
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Hey SFB , everyone on this forum knows I never threatened you , or anyone else , with a gun.
Everyone knows except you , loser.

That shit is like 6 tours old.

Got anything new ? Like factual proof of your above statement about the correlation between racists and birthers ?

Nah , didn't think so , just more cyclops thinking from the only man on the planet to save the afro american race.
Gosh , what a swell guy . :roll: :lol:


:P


So when you told me that you would see just how many gun barrels you could fit into my mouth if I showed up in your town, and obviously most everybody here has read that post, you are denying having posted this?
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9955&p=538195&hilit=gun+barrels+mouth#p538195
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You want a threat SpaceHead ? Come to a few neighborhoods in this town , nah , we'll go across the river to Kentucky and I'll show you some real racists , and you can spew what you have on this forum , for the past 5 years , and then we'll see just how many gun barrels fit in your mouth.


By the way, if you really have to ask for proof if there is a correlation between birthers and racists, you are either... a) in denial b) a liar c) a birther d) a closet racist or d) all of the above. I know at least two of the choices fit your personality type based on your responses on this forum towards me.



A little off topic for this thread, but this is another prime example of the reactions of some people when confronted with an uncomfortable truth.



Let me just clarify what a personal threat is , SFB. It's when a person tells another person that they will personally do something harmful to the person he is speaking with. That never happened. I merely stated that if you go over to Kentucky and spewed your race baiting shit over there , someone would probably put you in your place for your mouth excretions. Never said I would do it or even make it happen.

Got it , SFB ?

:roll:



Now , how about some proof of your other assertion ?


One more question. Is Jay Z a racist ?


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His real dad is a known communist.



So was Ed Miliband's (the Labour leader in the UK).
In neither Ed, nor Barack (no matter which father he had) do I notice much evidence of their fathers' views ....

Actually, my grandma joined the Communist party in 1944 - does that make me a Communist, too? :wink:

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Actually Obama has made no bones about liking his fathers ideas and implementing as many of them, and liberal/socialistic ideas he can. He is all about social engineering through the federal government.
Hopefully enough of the voting population in the us, will elect people to do what is best for the country that is small government, & less intrusion into our lives.

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I find it quite interesting that political affiliations don't seem to be passed from father/mother to son/daughter...Growing up as a child of the 50's there was a definate inherited dislike of the Nazis & Japanese, largely due to the lose of family members and the hardships brought about by WW2. My father aged thirteen and his family (British/Scottish) were evacuated from Singapore as the Japanese were invading, leaving behind their oldest son Donald aged 18 a soldier in the Burma Rifles who died as a pow. They traveled by boat as opposed to ship from Penang to Australia, across Aussie by train then on to New Zealand again by boat. As a child the stories of this journey were often spoken of and sounded to us kids like a fantastic adventure. Looking back the propaganda from the movies and comics of my childhood were heavily biased against the Germans and Japanese in a goodies and baddies kind of way.
Then as a teenager, for me that hatered became universal I hated everything, accept music and anything with a motor. I knew what political party my father voted for, but I couldn't care less. From the age of 18, I had left home and as a disaffected youth I voted for the Normal (legalise pot) party, as did all my friends. Growing up politics was never really discussed in the house in any deep and meaningful way, I think dad just assumed I would naturally vote for the same party as he did, which was the National (rich) party...These days, and without disclosing my checkered voting history, I quiz my nieces and nephews who are of voting age as to their political leanings, they all seem to be making much more educated choices than I did at their age, and don't seem to be swayed in the least by their parents politics....In NZ I get the distinct immpression that a large section of society looks at the political polls leading up to an election and votes for whoever is ahead, because nobody likes to back a loser. Then they spend the next four years pissing and moaning about the pricks they voted in...Ain't life grand :roll:


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Actually Obama has made no bones about liking his fathers ideas and implementing as many of them, and liberal/socialistic ideas he can. He is all about social engineering through the federal government.
Hopefully enough of the voting population in the us, will elect people to do what is best for the country that is small government, & less intrusion into our lives.


Ah, but the question (according to Rope's link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... echild.php) is which father? Frank Marshall Davis or Barack Obama Sr.?
In any case, I haven't seen either Ed or Barack call for a dictatorship the proletariat or for the workers to control the means of production.....yet! :wink:

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True but you won't qualify for the presidency .

Your loss....
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I think not, can a person born in another country be the head of your country?

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Good to hear maybe you guys can elect Obama

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pedro2 wrote:
SPACEBROTHER wrote:
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Hey SFB , everyone on this forum knows I never threatened you , or anyone else , with a gun.
Everyone knows except you , loser.

That shit is like 6 tours old.

Got anything new ? Like factual proof of your above statement about the correlation between racists and birthers ?

Nah , didn't think so , just more cyclops thinking from the only man on the planet to save the afro american race.
Gosh , what a swell guy . :roll: :lol:


:P


So when you told me that you would see just how many gun barrels you could fit into my mouth if I showed up in your town, and obviously most everybody here has read that post, you are denying having posted this?
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9955&p=538195&hilit=gun+barrels+mouth#p538195
pedro2 wrote:
You want a threat SpaceHead ? Come to a few neighborhoods in this town , nah , we'll go across the river to Kentucky and I'll show you some real racists , and you can spew what you have on this forum , for the past 5 years , and then we'll see just how many gun barrels fit in your mouth.


By the way, if you really have to ask for proof if there is a correlation between birthers and racists, you are either... a) in denial b) a liar c) a birther d) a closet racist or d) all of the above. I know at least two of the choices fit your personality type based on your responses on this forum towards me.



A little off topic for this thread, but this is another prime example of the reactions of some people when confronted with an uncomfortable truth.



Let me just clarify what a personal threat is , SFB. It's when a person tells another person that they will personally do something harmful to the person he is speaking with. That never happened. I merely stated that if you go over to Kentucky and spewed your race baiting shit over there , someone would probably put you in your place for your mouth excretions. Never said I would do it or even make it happen.

Got it , SFB ?

:roll:


Reread your own post. I bolded and underlined the personal threat made by you against me.


Again, this is off topic regarding this thread, but obviously, there is a domestic terrorist wing of Libertaryanism.


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I think not, can a person born in another country be the head of your country?

Probably not. But the previous bunch were nothing special, so why not?
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ron paul Publicly Admits He is a Racist - December 26, 2011
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