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 Post subject: USA: We are #2
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Thanks almost entirely to Republican/Libertarian trade policies of the '80s, Reagan/GHW Bush, Newt Gingrich and a Republican controlled Congress, America is now the #2 economy in the world. There is no doubt that brainwashed Neo-Con/Libertarian douchebags will blame THEIR failed policies on Presidents Obama and Clinton and the Dems...


This is where it started - http://archives.politicususa.com/2011/0 ... trade.html

This is where it was implemented - http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profil ... de_Policy/

This is where we are now - http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/money/it% ... ar-BBgjXGo


...I'm sure the usual cast of characters in denial here will blame everybody else EXCEPT those directly responsible.


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 Post subject: Re: USA: We are #2
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The Sunday Telegraph
November 23, 2014 12:00AM

I'll barrack for US President Barack Obama
Claire Harvey


IS ANYONE else sick of Australian conservatives’ monumental arrogance in dismissing, and dissing, Barack Obama - one of the great leaders of our time?

There’s been a fresh wave of Obama-hate here after the G20 summit when, to the deep irritation of the federal Government and its barrackers, Obama deliberately goaded Australia about its vacillation on climate change.

I’ve spent the past six years being appalled - and kind of amused - by Australian politicians and commentators who presume in their petty provinciality to slag off someone of Barack Obama’s calibre.

First they said he wouldn’t get re-elected. Then they said he could never win a second election. Then it was ‘He’ll never get health reform past Congress’.

Now it’s ‘Obamacare is socialism’. They’ve spent Obama’s entire presidency looking for new reasons to despise a man who, a century from now, will be regarded as the one who utterly transformed America: who brought healthcare to many poor people who were shut out of the system, who ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, who finally killed Osama bin Laden, ended discrimination against gays in the military, pivoted American defence interests towards our own Pacific region, oversaw a rapid recession recovery and fast reduction of budget deficit and a staggering boom in US oil and gas production that utterly rebalanced geopolitics.

Just like the American conservatives, Australia’s right-wingers can’t seem to get past the effrontery of someone like Obama being elected at all.

Their slurs have been imaginative, at least. Maybe he’s a secret Muslim. Maybe he was born overseas. He’s not really a great orator. Well, maybe he’s OK - but all he can do is talk. He can’t get anything done. He built up all this hopey-changey stuff, as Sarah Palin once said, and then let everyone down.

And still the haters can’t grasp they’ve been wrong every time.

The latest bleat is that now Obama is irrelevant because he’s a ‘lame duck’ president, about to reach the compulsory eight-year end point of his administration.

Sure, Congress might be chronically gridlocked, and the 30 per cent of Americans who could be bothered to vote in the mid-term elections might have gone Republican, but this week Obama showed who is boss with an executive order that will give up to five million ‘illegals’ who have lived entire undocumented lives in the United States the right to work legally, pay taxes and access social security without fear of deportation.

They can finally leave to visit their elderly mothers in South America. They can, as Obama said, “come out of the shadows”.

Obama is daring the right wing: will you rewind this and deny the people who make America run smoothly - the vast underclass of immigrant cleaners, nannies, waiters, bellhops, labourers - the right to live free in the home of the brave?

It’s the same with climate change. Obama’s decided his next two years will be spent doing things without Congress’ say-so: like brokering a global agreement on mitigating pollution.
Obama thinks he has a shot at persuading the world’s dirtiest economies to come to a basic agreement on cleaning their acts up.
I think if anyone can do it, he can. That’s a legacy to be proud of.

And that’s why I think our Foreign Minister, the usually savvy Julie Bishop, sounds ridiculous for buying into the Government’s undignified whinging about Obama’s reference to the Great Barrier Reef in his G20 speech. Really, Julie? Did you really expect Obama to acknowledge how great Australia is because we don’t let oil tankers and dredgers dump crap on the reef?
Obama invoked our greatest natural treasure to make one simple, and much bigger, point: if global carbon dioxide emissions result in sea-levels changing, ocean acidity increasing and severe weather events dramatically increasing, as the vast majority of scientists and our own government experts say they will, the Reef will suffer like everything else on the planet. That’s it. Obama was talking to Russia as much as to Australia - but the federal Government reacted with an unseemly defensiveness.

One other thing about Obama-hate:

I think there’s a nasty undercurrent of hope that Obama might turn out to be just a token, after all. It’s so easy to say: “See, see? Well-meaning Americans were tricked into voting for him because he’s black, and now he’s turned out to be a dud!” Australia’s Obama-haters desperately want to see him fail, precisely so they can delight in some smug notion of post-racial enlightenment.

But I’m not embarrassed to say I think Obama’s story is talismanic in part because of his race - for what it says about America, not about him. I think we’re all lucky to have lived in the era Americans elected a black man and saw him grow into one of the most inspirational Presidents in a century.

In Obama’s lifetime, black men were hanged from trees. His wife Michelle and daughters are the direct descendants of southern slaves. The only African Americans to live in the White House were domestic staff.

And yet never have we heard Obama invoke his skin as a reason for the hatred he’s experienced. He doesn’t play the race card although his enemies so dearly wish he would, and although there have been occasions when race has, I think, been a factor. Obama is smarter, and bigger, than that.

Tony Abbott*,for one, is big enough to admit he underestimated Obama in the past. Shame some of Abbott's fans aren’t so gracious.

*our right-wing prime minister


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 Post subject: Re: USA: We are #2
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 Post subject: Re: who is disco boy?
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Go fuck yourself, asshat...

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 Post subject: Re: who is disco boy?
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Go fuck yourself, asshat...
I'll take that as a yes.

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 Post subject: Re: USA: We are #2
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The Sunday Telegraph
November 23, 2014 12:00AM

I'll barrack for US President Barack Obama
Claire Harvey


IS ANYONE else sick of Australian conservatives’ monumental arrogance in dismissing, and dissing, Barack Obama - one of the great leaders of our time?

There’s been a fresh wave of Obama-hate here after the G20 summit when, to the deep irritation of the federal Government and its barrackers, Obama deliberately goaded Australia about its vacillation on climate change.

I’ve spent the past six years being appalled - and kind of amused - by Australian politicians and commentators who presume in their petty provinciality to slag off someone of Barack Obama’s calibre.

First they said he wouldn’t get re-elected. Then they said he could never win a second election. Then it was ‘He’ll never get health reform past Congress’.

Now it’s ‘Obamacare is socialism’. They’ve spent Obama’s entire presidency looking for new reasons to despise a man who, a century from now, will be regarded as the one who utterly transformed America: who brought healthcare to many poor people who were shut out of the system, who ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, who finally killed Osama bin Laden, ended discrimination against gays in the military, pivoted American defence interests towards our own Pacific region, oversaw a rapid recession recovery and fast reduction of budget deficit and a staggering boom in US oil and gas production that utterly rebalanced geopolitics.

Just like the American conservatives, Australia’s right-wingers can’t seem to get past the effrontery of someone like Obama being elected at all.

Their slurs have been imaginative, at least. Maybe he’s a secret Muslim. Maybe he was born overseas. He’s not really a great orator. Well, maybe he’s OK - but all he can do is talk. He can’t get anything done. He built up all this hopey-changey stuff, as Sarah Palin once said, and then let everyone down.

And still the haters can’t grasp they’ve been wrong every time.

The latest bleat is that now Obama is irrelevant because he’s a ‘lame duck’ president, about to reach the compulsory eight-year end point of his administration.

Sure, Congress might be chronically gridlocked, and the 30 per cent of Americans who could be bothered to vote in the mid-term elections might have gone Republican, but this week Obama showed who is boss with an executive order that will give up to five million ‘illegals’ who have lived entire undocumented lives in the United States the right to work legally, pay taxes and access social security without fear of deportation.

They can finally leave to visit their elderly mothers in South America. They can, as Obama said, “come out of the shadows”.

Obama is daring the right wing: will you rewind this and deny the people who make America run smoothly - the vast underclass of immigrant cleaners, nannies, waiters, bellhops, labourers - the right to live free in the home of the brave?

It’s the same with climate change. Obama’s decided his next two years will be spent doing things without Congress’ say-so: like brokering a global agreement on mitigating pollution.
Obama thinks he has a shot at persuading the world’s dirtiest economies to come to a basic agreement on cleaning their acts up.
I think if anyone can do it, he can. That’s a legacy to be proud of.

And that’s why I think our Foreign Minister, the usually savvy Julie Bishop, sounds ridiculous for buying into the Government’s undignified whinging about Obama’s reference to the Great Barrier Reef in his G20 speech. Really, Julie? Did you really expect Obama to acknowledge how great Australia is because we don’t let oil tankers and dredgers dump crap on the reef?
Obama invoked our greatest natural treasure to make one simple, and much bigger, point: if global carbon dioxide emissions result in sea-levels changing, ocean acidity increasing and severe weather events dramatically increasing, as the vast majority of scientists and our own government experts say they will, the Reef will suffer like everything else on the planet. That’s it. Obama was talking to Russia as much as to Australia - but the federal Government reacted with an unseemly defensiveness.

One other thing about Obama-hate:

I think there’s a nasty undercurrent of hope that Obama might turn out to be just a token, after all. It’s so easy to say: “See, see? Well-meaning Americans were tricked into voting for him because he’s black, and now he’s turned out to be a dud!” Australia’s Obama-haters desperately want to see him fail, precisely so they can delight in some smug notion of post-racial enlightenment.

But I’m not embarrassed to say I think Obama’s story is talismanic in part because of his race - for what it says about America, not about him. I think we’re all lucky to have lived in the era Americans elected a black man and saw him grow into one of the most inspirational Presidents in a century.

In Obama’s lifetime, black men were hanged from trees. His wife Michelle and daughters are the direct descendants of southern slaves. The only African Americans to live in the White House were domestic staff.

And yet never have we heard Obama invoke his skin as a reason for the hatred he’s experienced. He doesn’t play the race card although his enemies so dearly wish he would, and although there have been occasions when race has, I think, been a factor. Obama is smarter, and bigger, than that.

Tony Abbott*,for one, is big enough to admit he underestimated Obama in the past. Shame some of Abbott's fans aren’t so gracious.

*our right-wing prime minister


Indeed. tweedle-dunce'o'boy is in denial again.


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 Post subject: Re: USA: We are #2
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Yep, one day they will take over ....

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 Post subject: Re: USA: We are #2
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Oh, it's that time of the month again...


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/ali ... year-low-0

Labor Force Participation Remains at 36-Year Low

December 5, 2014 - 9:17 AM

(CNSNews.com) - The labor force participation rate remained at a 36-year low of 62.8 percent in November, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The participation rate, which is the percentage of the civilian noninstitutional population who participated in the labor force by either having a job during the month or actively seeking one, was 62.8 percent in November which matches the percentage since March 1978.

In November, according to BLS, the nation’s civilian noninstitutional population, consisting of all people 16 or older who were not in the military or an institution, reached 248,844,000. Of those, 156,397,000 participated in the labor force by either holding a job or actively seeking one.

The 156,397,000 who participated in the labor force was 62.8 percent of the 248,844,000 civilian noninsttutional population, which matches the 62.8 percent rate in April, May, June, August and October of 2014 as well as the participation rate in March of 1978. The participation rate hit its lowest level of 62.7 percent in September 2014.

Another 92,447,000 people did not participate in the labor force. These Americans did not have a job and were not actively trying to find one. When President Obama took office in January 2009, there were 80,529,000 Americans who were not participating in the office, which means that since then, 11,918,000 Americans have left the workforce.


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Of the 156,397,000 who did participate in the labor force, 147,287,000 had a job, and 9,110,000 did not have a job but were actively seeking one -– making them the nation’s unemployed.

The 9,110,000 job seekers were 5.8 percent of the 156,397,000 Americans actively participating in the labor force during the month of November. Thus, the unemployment rate was 5.8 percent, the same as it was in October.

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 Post subject: Re: who is disco boy?
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is that you, boy?
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Go fuck yourself, asshat...
I'll take that as a yes.


You can take it any which way you want, jerk-off. It's not me. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: who is disco boy?
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Disco Boy wrote:
Go fuck yourself, asshat...
Lumpy Gravy wrote:
I'll take that as a yes.
Disco Boy wrote:
You can take it any which way you want, jerk-off. It's not me. :roll:
is it your sister?

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 Post subject: Re: who is disco boy?
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is that you, boy?
Disco Boy wrote:
Go fuck yourself, asshat...
Lumpy Gravy wrote:
I'll take that as a yes.
Disco Boy wrote:
You can take it any which way you want, jerk-off. It's not me. :roll:
is it your sister?


I don't have one, fuckhead.

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 Post subject: Re: who is disco boy?
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I don't have one, fuckhead.
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Excellent retort...

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 Post subject: Re: who is disco boy?
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I don't have one, fuckhead.
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Excellent retort...
well, who can argue with you, the master of retort...?
that last one was really good...

I don't see why anyone here should even bother to debate anything with you...

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I don't have one, fuckhead.
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Disco Boy wrote:
Excellent retort...
well, who can argue with you, the master of retort...?
that last one was really good...

I don't see why anyone here should even bother to debate anything with you...


This coming from someone who NEVER has debated me (let alone successfully) on ANYTHING. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: USA: We are #2
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It just doesn't matter.



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 Post subject: Re: disco boy
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ah... the irony.

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