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"..he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD DB, he shall surely be put to death, and all the one or possibly two members of the congregation shall certainly stone him."
Lediscoticus 24:13-16

"And this phrase, “one more time for the world” makes clear that the things shaken are removed, since they are created things, so that the things not shaken may remain.
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"Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the points are made better."
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Translation:

I've got NOTHING. You win. Game over.

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Nothing - but an empty cookie jar, filled with the holy vacuum of the Lord God DB's vacant ramblings. For, like rainbow-faceted soap bubbles, they burst when they come into contact with the air.

In fact, inspired by the temporal critic Craig Brown, I'm compiling a theological semantic grammar of the holy DB's conjugations in order to better reading of the scriptures.
The first person singular represents DB's statements, the second person singular what one could understands him to mean, the third person singular is the real effect of his divine pronouncements. Here is an excerpt from a yet-to-be completed opus that is bound to sweep the oceans...

I translate
You embroider
He is not a clairvoyant

I have been misquoted
You have been quoted
He is making it up

I have quoted Frank Zappa
You have quoted 4 seconds of a 10 minute interview of Frank Zappa
He ignores what he does not like

I claim that none my points have not been effectively challenged
You claim that your points have been discussed
His points - what points?

I have been subject to ad hominems
You feel insulted
He is a hypocrite

I present facts to support everything I say
You present your opinions strongly
He has a misinformed opinion gleaned from glancing at Libertarian sites

I post amusing and ironic images
You post images that you like and wish to share
He visits the same websites as Isaac

I think capitalism worked effectively under Mussolini and Pinochet
You are provocative
He approves of Fascism

I am impressed by Thatcher
You are Conservative
He thinks Thatcher's main occupation was providing attractive roofs in rural areas

I am convinced Ron Paul will get 10 million votes
You are optimistic
He is wrong by 8 million

I know "Atlas Shrugged" was the all time bestseller
You admire Ayn Rand
He has never heard of the Bible

I think you're all Socialists
You consider many to be left wing
He feels intellectually inferior

I debate
You are interested in other's views
He rants

I will put you on ignore
You will no longer read his posts
He will carry on replying regardless

I say: "One More Time For The World!"
You are going to say the following for the last time
He is going to repeat the following endlessly

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Just let him win, man. He needs the glory.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:03 pm 
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Caputh wrote:
Nothing - but an empty cookie jar, filled with the holy vacuum of the Lord God DB's vacant ramblings. For, like rainbow-faceted soap bubbles, they burst when they come into contact with the air.

In fact, inspired by the temporal critic Craig Brown, I'm compiling a theological semantic grammar of the holy DB's conjugations in order to better reading of the scriptures.
The first person singular represents DB's statements, the second person singular what one could understands him to mean, the third person singular is the real effect of his divine pronouncements. Here is an excerpt from a yet-to-be completed opus that is bound to sweep the oceans...

I translate
You embroider
He is not a clairvoyant

I have been misquoted
You have been quoted
He is making it up

I have quoted Frank Zappa
You have quoted 4 seconds of a 10 minute interview of Frank Zappa
He ignores what he does not like

I claim that none my points have not been effectively challenged
You claim that your points have been discussed
His points - what points?

I have been subject to ad hominems
You feel insulted
He is a hypocrite

I present facts to support everything I say
You present your opinions strongly
He has a misinformed opinion gleaned from glancing at Libertarian sites

I post amusing and ironic images
You post images that you like and wish to share
He visits the same websites as Isaac

I think capitalism worked effectively under Mussolini and Pinochet
You are provocative
He approves of Fascism

I am impressed by Thatcher
You are Conservative
He thinks Thatcher's main occupation was providing attractive roofs in rural areas

I am convinced Ron Paul will get 10 million votes
You are optimistic
He is wrong by 8 million

I know "Atlas Shrugged" was the all time bestseller
You admire Ayn Rand
He has never heard of the Bible

I think you're all Socialists
You consider many to be left wing
He feels intellectually inferior

I debate
You are interested in other's views
He rants

I will put you on ignore
You will no longer read his posts
He will carry on replying regardless

I say: "One More Time For The World!"
You are going to say the following for the last time
He is going to repeat the following endlessly


Translation:

I've DEFINITELY got NOTHING.

So I'll perpetualize my ultra-diarrhoea-verbosity-ridden-misinterpretations-selective-quotes-and-misquotes to make it look like I've accomplished something, when the COMPLETE opposite is true.

You win. Game over.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:01 pm 
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downer mydnyte wrote:
Just let him win, man. He needs the glory.

The End.

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Caputh wrote:
The End.

or is it....

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Since so many people liked the last article by Thom Hartmann that I posted, I thought it would be a good time for another...

Does hard work really pay off anymore?

For most of our lives, we've been taught that hard work pays off, but most of the super-rich didn't make their money by working hard. According to a new analysis by Paul Buchheit of UsAgainstGreed.org, those at the top make most of their money by betting against the American people. The wealthy elite makes a fortune by speculating on rising food prices, which means that they profit by making it harder for people around the world to afford to eat.

As if that isn't evil enough, the super-rich also bet against morŧgages, so that they could make a profit when Americans could not longer afford to stay in their homes. And, once millions of Americans found themselves out on the street, the private equity firms swooped in, bought up the foreclosures, and rented them back to the very people that they swindled out of their homes. The super-rich rake in even more by gambling on Wall Street, screwing over Main Street, and buying off the politicians that help make it all possible. The only hard work that the billionaires face is walking the fine line between so-called investing and criminal activities like bribery, fraud, and manipulating the market.

Our nation used to really value hard work, and that work was rewarded with a better life and brighter future. But, for the last three decades, the super-rich have rigged the system, and managed to convince many of us that we're just not working hard enough. The time has come to stand up, speak out, and fix this broken system while we still have a chance. We work hard, we play by the rules, and we need to fight for an economy that pays off for more than the top one percent.


The link to the analysis that he references...
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/21-2

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Yada, yada.... whats the alternative? Don't work hard, cut the soles off my shoes ,climb a tree and learn how to play the flute? Good lord man, there are so many opportunities out there that will "pay off" with some hard work. Guess it boils down to what your definition of pay off is.

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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Since so many people liked the last article by Thom Hartmann that I posted, I thought it would be a good time for another...

Does hard work really pay off anymore?

For most of our lives, we've been taught that hard work pays off, but most of the super-rich didn't make their money by working hard. According to a new analysis by Paul Buchheit of UsAgainstGreed.org, those at the top make most of their money by betting against the American people. The wealthy elite makes a fortune by speculating on rising food prices, which means that they profit by making it harder for people around the world to afford to eat.

As if that isn't evil enough, the super-rich also bet against morŧgages, so that they could make a profit when Americans could not longer afford to stay in their homes. And, once millions of Americans found themselves out on the street, the private equity firms swooped in, bought up the foreclosures, and rented them back to the very people that they swindled out of their homes. The super-rich rake in even more by gambling on Wall Street, screwing over Main Street, and buying off the politicians that help make it all possible. The only hard work that the billionaires face is walking the fine line between so-called investing and criminal activities like bribery, fraud, and manipulating the market.

Our nation used to really value hard work, and that work was rewarded with a better life and brighter future. But, for the last three decades, the super-rich have rigged the system, and managed to convince many of us that we're just not working hard enough. The time has come to stand up, speak out, and fix this broken system while we still have a chance. We work hard, we play by the rules, and we need to fight for an economy that pays off for more than the top one percent.


The link to the analysis that he references...
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/21-2


Hartmann still hasn't figured out why the 1% are STILL being ALLOWED to get richer. This is primarily of course thanks to Government interference and the massive over-regulations in the marketplace that part of the 1% themselves help to write by greasing Government through their special interests (lobbyists), thus driving competition to either fold or move overseas...

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Yada, yada.... whats the alternative? Don't work hard, cut the soles off my shoes ,climb a tree and learn how to play the flute? Good lord man, there are so many opportunities out there that will "pay off" with some hard work. Guess it boils down to what your definition of pay off is.


I just got a raise today!

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Awesome! A raise is good news. Economically, speaking. I suppose, if it wasn't for Obama, it would've been an even bigger raise.

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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Awesome! A raise is good news. Economically, speaking. I suppose, if it wasn't for Obama, it would've been an even bigger raise.


For most people it probably would've been. But considering the industry I'm in, that wouldn't necessarily have been the case for me...

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One thing is certain, If you already have big bucks, then you put it in stocks right now, as this admin. and the fed. have the rates favoring them over savings. Contrary to what obama ran on, he has tilted the economy, in favor of, and bailed out wall street, over those of us that do not have big bucks to gamble with.

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What I find astounding is that no matter how badly the current economic climate seems to be the leftists' worst nightmare, replete with the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer and the mid-class vanishing, market fundamentalists in their unshakable faith still find a way to blame Satan, whoops I mean The Big Government for everything that is wrong! Gloria In Excelsis Marketus?

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I'm putting a lot of blame on the KGB, ooopps I mean the IRS.

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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
I'm putting a lot of blame on the KGB, ooopps I mean the IRS.


You mean the I(nternational) of R(evolutionary) S(ocialists)? Or the I(ndiscreet) R(obbing) S(ystem)? Or possibly the I(ncompetent) R(edistribution) S(pendthrifts)? :wink:

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How bad is the taxation in germany?

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Hey, Bravo, taxation is always "bad". Nobody likes to pay money for "nothing" - or for "other people".
However, if you're really interested, in Germany they have something called "spouse-splitting". No, this is not some kind of Scandinavian wife-swapping event. It means that, if one is married, one spouse can classify him/herself in a lower tax class, the other in a higher tax class. As I earn more money (by about 5 to 1), a very low % of my income goes to the taxman, my wife pays a higher % of tax. But as she earns very little, the amount she pays is not very much. This system (quite rightly) pisses off a lot of people -particularly those who are not married.
Unfortunately, we are still not "well off".

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Taxes are a necessary evil. Without them, you have no infrastructure, roads or services. If all of these services were to be privatized, the system would collapse. A small number of business interests would monopolize the system through no bid contracting, creating a situation where all of the preferential treatment would solely go towards the rich while the middle class would cease to exists and 99% of the population would live in forced poverty.


Notice how almost all of the states with the lowest (or no) tax rates... http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/income-tax-by-state


...almost all have the highest poverty rates?... http://www.povertyusa.org/the-state-of- ... ap-state/#


...which incidentally also happen to be mostly states run by Republicans, Libertarians and Tea Party wackos.


My state, Michigan is an exception as every branch of the entire gov't here is controlled by Republicans, Libertarians and Tea Party wackos, yet the tax rates increased dramatically, mostly on senior pensions and the middle class while the rich saw drastic cuts and the end result is one of the highest poverty and unemployment rates. Detroit went into bankruptcy while the sate was under complete Neo-Con control....go figure. :roll:


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Taxes are a necessary evil.

If everybody that should pay tax did pay tax, I'm pretty sure my tax bills would be a lot lower, and drastically lower if most politicians were given their p45.
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First stop lying about who was in control of detroit, a dem. mayor is the answer, along with big union. Second taxes yes, but how they are levied , is the point, and third sure raise taxes but spend it on the DEBT, and quit wasting it , reduce fraud, then we have something, taxes are coming in at a record level, but they are misspent .

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According to Neo-Conservative publication "Forbes"...

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The Unions Didn't Bankrupt Detroit, But Great American Cars Did
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For the longest time the argument made here to explain Detroit’s demise was the dollar. It still can’t be dismissed. Figure American carmakers are best at producing muscular, noisy, gas guzzling rides (think GM’s Suburban, Cadillac and Corvette, Ford’s Bronco and Lincoln lines), but with President Nixon’s mistaken decision to delink the dollar from gold in 1971, the demise of the Big Three began with great speed.

That was the case because a fiat dollar in the ‘70s coincided with a weak dollar, oil is priced in the latter, and with the dollar in freefall, gasoline prices naturally soared. Expensive petrol prices made that way by faulty U.S. monetary policy robbed the Big Three of their market advantage. Nominally expensive fuel made American cars unattractive to cash-conscious consumers, at which point fuel efficient foreign cars that often looked and drove better increasingly captured market share.

The weak dollar made the Big Three uncompetitive...

The mainstream punditry will talk about unions, crime and high taxes as the causes of Detroit’s bankruptcy, but the real answer is rooted in something far more basic: cars are easy to make, and Detroit’s biggest employers make cars...


So there you have it. Democrats and Unions had absolutely nothing to do with Detroit going into bankruptcy. That myth is debunked.


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"There you have it" if you're a blind sheep. Forbes is full of shit and only a fool would believe anything from that source. Not that they don't mix truth in with their lies. You have to mix truth with lies to maintain credibility.

Detroit was set up to fail a long, long time ago. The world is controlled by an oligarchy.


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Ed Organus Maximus wrote:
What I find astounding is that no matter how badly the current economic climate seems to be the leftists' worst nightmare, replete with the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer and the mid-class vanishing, market fundamentalists in their unshakable faith still find a way to blame Satan, whoops I mean The Big Government for everything that is wrong! Gloria In Excelsis Marketus?


What I find astounding, is despite the FACT you don't have the slightest understanding of economics, basic laws of supply & demand, or how most businesses operate...you think you actually know what you're talking about.

Here's some advice: EDUCATE YOURSELF on these matters.

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