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 Post subject: Let It Grow
PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:27 pm 
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This is a horticulture/gardening thread.

I do tomatoes and peppers in pots. My results have been poor to fair in the last 4 years. I'm still a newbe. Lots of pest problems in SoCal. Leaf-miners, aphids, psyllids, whiteflies and the dreaded cabbage moth have left me with low yields and some, like the Chocolate Habanero I tried last year, just died without flowering. Today I bought a quart of 100% neem oil. They say the pests will just quit eating, flying and mating after eating the plants treated with neem. I'll use it as a leaf polish and soil conditioner. Farmers and gardeners swear by it so I'll give it a try. They say to only get the '100% cold-pressed organic neem oil.'
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This should last me a few seasons. It was tough to find a walk-in store that carried it, but I found it! Happy gardening :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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I was enjoying a wonderful garden last year 'till the deer came...

...this year they're gettin' a fence :)

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just might grow me a chin
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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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^try bees

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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I'm doing some special colors this year, black tomatos, purple broccoli, etc..
This is most of it, but since I'm fencing in against deer, I'm going to sink a couple of extra posts
and put up a grape trellace, it'll be nice to put a picknic table under for some summer shade,
just reach up and grab a bunch of grapes :)

I'm gonna put black and raspberries around the inside perimeter of the fence,
save for two walls on which I'll grow some solar panels.

I'm gonna order one of those garden girls too (scroll to lower right in photo), cut my work in half :)

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It's two 10' (3m) x 10' raised compost beds:
Line bottom with newspaper 10 sheets thick to prevent weed/grass encroachment.

Bottom layer, 4 inches Luscerne (straw in molasses).
Next layer, 1.5 inch organic fertilizer.
Next layer, 4 inch regular straw.
Top layer, 4 inches compost.

Plant dense to crowd out weeds and create cool microclimate underneath canopy to prevent drying out :)

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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I did three tomato plants last year, and got about ten tomatoes in total :twisted:
That's what you get when you buy plants from a village fete stall...
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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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I did three tomato plants last year, and got about ten tomatoes in total :twisted:
That's what you get when you buy plants from a village fete stall...
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I did about 6 plants, and the deer got 'em all :evil:

Tomatos that weren't ripe enough they picked and left on the ground... they ate everything, even the brussel sprouts...then they trampled all the plants.

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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I did about 6 plants, and the deer got 'em all :evil:


...and then they left me ticks, one of which got me and gave me the Babesia parasite (nearly identical to Malaria), which sent me to critical care for 30 hours with a ruptured spleen, while my hemoglobin dropped to 7.1, .1 above shock/transfusion level, and a 1:6 chance of not going home...the bastards.

The parasites go for your red blood cells and multiply inside them, causing them to burst. Red Blood cells are coated with hemoglobin which oxygen sticks to, so when you lose them you start fading out.

When I left the hospital my count was up to 8.6, I was walking slow as a turtle, (normal range is 13 to 17), I got a preview of what it is like to be a 95yo. It took months to build up red blood cells, I just entered the bottom of the normal range 6 months later, and have a month of blood pills to go.

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The next photo shows a tetrad structure of 4. It's this structure that distinguishes this Babesia parasite from Malaria, the most common mis-diagnosis for Babesiosis. Fortunately for the mis-diagnosed, the dual antibiotics treatments are exactly the same for either parasite, (atovaquone with azithromycin, OR klindamycin with quinine).

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Interesting to note the fever cycles with a parasite. Unlike the flu where you get a fever for a few days then it goes down and you're done, parasites have fever cycles of increasing intensity, (like a roller coaster). First it was 98.6f to 99.6f, then just before my spleen ruptured it was cycling 102 to 104f/40c.

In the beginning you think nothings's wrong, then the doc doesn't know what to think cuz you sometimes have just a mild fever with no other symptoms to go on, then you seem better.

Getting better is the opposite. Lower and shorter cycles for about 2 months. You become an expert at managing night sweats, (sleep with a pile of 5 t-shirts next to the bed so you can keep changing into dry shirts).

...so if anyone gets fever cycles, get a Lyme A/ B test and a Babesia/Malaria smear early, so you don't end up like me!

It can be a month or three between the tiny tick bite and the onset of the first fever cycle, many never even know they were bitten, (I didn't). Some people get over it themselves, and 1 in ten hospitalized die..it's a whole range. Some people never get fever cycles, they just die one day of lung, heart, liver, or kidney failure.

It's ground zero in New England, and the upper mid-west. My admission doctor said "it's getting to be a real problem, I've seen about 200 cases of it." The previous owner of my house had it, and when I was moving in, my next-door neighbor was in the hospital for it.

This gardening is life-threatening work!

Lol, the ICU is a 24 hour non-stop flourescent racket with 4-hour blood tests to prevent sleep. But it's punctuated by nurses as angels who keep you informed and encouraged while they save your life...thank God for the nurses, they run the show.

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Nasty stuff, baddy. Glad that yer gettin through it.

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coevad wrote:
Today I bought a quart of 100% neem oil.

I use a no-rinse foam, waterless cat bath for my kitty. The very first ingredient is Neem Oil.


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Mr. Nice Guy wrote:
coevad wrote:
Today I bought a quart of 100% neem oil.

I use a no-rinse foam, waterless cat bath for my kitty. The very first ingredient listed on the label is Neem Oil.

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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Wow, glad you doing better, baddy!

Renaissance - Let It Grow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQlEdPL66Q

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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Trying to get my last two Black Corba peppers to ripen. They're still hot as fuck when they're green, though.


The lone tomato plant is still producing. I lost the card, but they are orange and tasty.

Found it. Momotaro Gold

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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baddy wrote:
I was enjoying a wonderful garden last year 'till the deer came...

...this year they're gettin' a fence :)

Terrible tick story. To bad it happened to you baddy and I'm glad your pulling out of it. I remember your garden, all the planning and pix, all just to feed the damn deer. You stopped posting here for awhile, I was wondering about that garden, you'd put all that effort into it and pix. It piqued my curiosity, I figured something was up. Glad your alright man! :wink: 8)

EDIT: I've got my compost pile going, ready for spring planting. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Nasty stuff, baddy. Glad that yer gettin through it.

Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
Wow, glad you doing better, baddy!
Renaissance - Let It Grow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQlEdPL66Q

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baddy wrote:
Glad your alright man! :wink: 8)

EDIT: I've got my compost pile going, ready for spring planting. :D


Thanks RK, GG and Kaptn'. All good now.

Sounds good on the composting, I'm ready too. Seedlings going in means good riddance winter '14...soon.

I was thinking about getting some fruit trees started, I have two nice areas. Maybe some cherry and pears. I've liked cherry trees since my childhood... you can climb 'em and eat :) Leave something fun for the kids when I'm in my dust phase, lol.

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^ Glad you are doing better baddy.

Usually in April, a few local high schools have a compost giveaway. You can drive up with a bunch of 50gal. empty trash cans if you want. They usually have two 60ft trailers full of this organic stuff. I'm going to turn some friends on to this, as they have large yards to plant in. I only need about 15 gallons of the stuff.

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Early morning compost pick-up today. I was able to get about 50 gallons.
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Whew....it reeks.

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I'm looking for chocolates this year. Probably won't find any til March. I should order seeds.
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For all you talented folks. My hat's off to you.

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My hat's off to you.

Yikes! look at that goose egg! PUT YOUR HAT BACK ON, MAN... PLEEEASE!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Let It Grow
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Terri and I used to grow our garden by the fence where they got plenty of sun and had many productive years, where we live the soil is considered top grade, our little town is amongst some of the richest farm land in the world.

Our tomato output was amazing for years, then my trees became so large the shade forced us to try a new location and well we had good crops they were nowhere near the output we used to get.

We stopped gardening about 5 years ago, when Terri passed and the Daughter Plook the Elder was still here she planted where we originally had our garden (I had the trees substantially trimmed).

The plants never got huge and the locals claimed it was an off growing year for various reasons due to the weather. But they produced tomatoes and peppers continuously right up to December.

I also have a peach tree we keep pruned back so it doesn’t get huge that yields anywhere between 5 and 10 bags of peaches every year, last year I got 8.

I have had success with a strawberry plant Terri planted 3 years ago, I get strawberries every year for months.


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^Nice tune Phil....Nice share Plook.

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I have all my tomatoes for the season. Maybe one more. I also found a chocolate pepper(medium heat).

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Marigolds help the garden in many ways.
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Now the hot pepper search begins.

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If ya grow Holy Mole' Red Hot Chile Peppers and play FZ's music as they grow, you'll get Great Googly-Boogly Chiles. A taste you can obsess on. :wink: :D

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Just potted Cayenne, Ghost and Burning Bush Habanero pepper plants. Seeing whiteflies already!
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Time to mix up a batch of neem!

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