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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:09 am 
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Rope-a-douche? Are you the douche I am roping?

Facts change. The truth remains constant. It's not up to me to explain that to you or anyone else.

Here's a fact you can change. Your "arguments" always wind up being some sort of insult about me. You don't really have the ability to refute any of my views, so you attack me personally, because you don't like what I say. It's cheesy.

If you were to change that fact by actually presenting a well-thought-out counter to my views, then you might actually be worthy of my time. The truth about all this would then have changed, but it would still be the truth.

Get it?

By the way, it's totally hilarious that Obama is running behind Romney in the opinion polls. Not that I give a shit...they are two sides of the same coin...but if Obama loses it will be extra hilarious for me because you are so into him and you think his re-election is so important.






...and, really...it's hard to get over myself when I am so constantly quoted by everyone. Stop that!


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Don't worry, Rope. I can't get over myself either - or indeed anyone else :wink:

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Rope-a-douche? Are you the douche I am roping?

Facts change. The truth remains constant. It's not up to me to explain that to you or anyone else.

Here's a fact you can change. Your "arguments" always wind up being some sort of insult about me. You don't really have the ability to refute any of my views, so you attack me personally, because you don't like what I say. It's cheesy.

If you were to change that fact by actually presenting a well-thought-out counter to my views, then you might actually be worthy of my time. The truth about all this would then have changed, but it would still be the truth.

Get it?

By the way, it's totally hilarious that Obama is running behind Romney in the opinion polls. Not that I give a shit...they are two sides of the same coin...but if Obama loses it will be extra hilarious for me because you are so into him and you think his re-election is so important.






...and, really...it's hard to get over myself when I am so constantly quoted by everyone. Stop that!



I am not much for either party myself and I find in the big picture those who control will get their way no matter which party is in, the problem this go around are the collateral damage issues that "they" are not concerned with.

First and foremost Supreme Court Justice appointments, we are far better off with Socialist leaning left than Fascist leaning right, ask blacks, gays, and women.

Next if your a woman your rights are far safer with the Socialist Democrats than the Fascist Conservatives, since your a single male maybe your not concerned with that, but I am one man in a heard of women and they are worried about their rights.

Then your safety and education issues, this threat is great since the big money people can spend secretly whatever they want on issues (corporations are people) and the only competition they have are the Unions who are under extreme attack. The ironic fact here is after 911 everyone wanted to make sure the hero’s of that day fire and police departments should be paid more and taken care of in retirerment and don’t forget the under appreciated teachers and on and on. Now that municipalities and states are broke, its “fuck them and their over paid, golden parachute pensions, and get rid of those dam unions that protect them…" I find this sadly funny.

Last but not least are your small ticket items that the Fascist want to kill once and for all, they already named one Public TV. This is a huge savings for the budget, one year of PBS is the equivalent of 6 hours of the Pentagon budget, big savings there. You will also see al sorts of loss’s in science program, space exploration, arts, and anything that doesn’t count on a bean counters spread sheet.

We need to remember what Winston Churchill said during the Second World War, Winston Churchill’s finance minister said Britain should cut arts funding to support the war effort. Churchill’s response: “Then what are we fighting for?”

Romney wins and there will be nothing funny about what the Fascist can accomplish they are very efficient we saw what the Nazis did in a very short time frame, the Socialist are very inept and can’t hurt us even in the long term, the socialist vote is the safe vote for folks in general and especially for women, gays, and minorities.

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Debt and deficit, do you run your budget like congress?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:33 am 
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ha ha...thanks Caputh...


PBS is a small expenditure compared to the defnse budget, sure. Maybe we could afford PBS if for just once we could accept a decline in the bloated defense budget.

But, notice...neither mainstream candidate is suggesting that. I wonder why?



(no I don't...just kidding...they are bought and paid for by corporate interests...war interests, in other words.)



So, what is the real difference? Yep...small issues that don't mean shit, that they will bicker and debate over endlessly while we go broke borrowing money from China to bomb brown people with.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama, and vice-versa. It's rigged, and by now most people know this.

That's why most people don't vote. They refuse to be a part of a gigantic mass deception.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:31 am 
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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
Debt and deficit, do you run your budget like congress?


Who's going to pay it down? Cutting things won't reduce the debt. As I see it, those who've profited the most from the debt increase are the ones who don't want to pay any of it back and want cuts. So tell me BRAVO, who exactly is going to pay the bill for the wars your guy started?




One thing that sucks about our election process is that Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden will only debate amongst themselves. The last time I remember the candidates having an open debate forum was in 2000 when Gore and Bush were also debating with Independant candidates. I remember Bush refusing to debate in 2004, unless it was only a limited number of times and that there would be no Independant candidates. Yet another shitty thing that Bush fucked America on and eight years later, we have Obama, who is too polite, and Romney, who changes positions depending on which reporters or tv networks he's talking to.

Obama's getting my vote regardless, because Republicans suck.


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Turkey has intercepted a plane from Russia headed to Damascus, Syria, carrying ammo intended for use on the rebels.
Syria and Moscow deny this. FYI, The Saudi's, Qatar etc have been funding + arming the rebels in Syria. The US has probably been helping too, if only for humanitarian aid.
In addition, Turkey has been attacked numerous times over the last couple weeks from shells originating in Syria. Syria officially has apologized but the shelling continues. Turkey is of course a NATO ally and the implication there is that all NATO allies are supposed to join in when any of our NATO allies are attacked.
Is this the real 'October surprise' even though it's been brewing since early 2011?

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SPACEBROTHER wrote:
BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
Debt and deficit, do you run your budget like congress?


Who's going to pay it down? Cutting things won't reduce the debt. As I see it, those who've profited the most from the debt increase are the ones who don't want to pay any of it back and want cuts. So tell me BRAVO, who exactly is going to pay the bill for the wars your guy started?




One thing that sucks about our election process is that Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden will only debate amongst themselves. The last time I remember the candidates having an open debate forum was in 2000 when Gore and Bush were also debating with Independant candidates. I remember Bush refusing to debate in 2004, unless it was only a limited number of times and that there would be no Independant candidates. Yet another shitty thing that Bush fucked America on and eight years later, we have Obama, who is too polite, and Romney, who changes positions depending on which reporters or tv networks he's talking to.

Obama's getting my vote regardless, because Republicans suck.

What? cutting spending won't reduce debt? you must work for congress.

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I was right about Lance Armstrong.[/gloat]

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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
Debt and deficit, do you run your budget like congress?


Who's going to pay it down? Cutting things won't reduce the debt. As I see it, those who've profited the most from the debt increase are the ones who don't want to pay any of it back and want cuts. So tell me BRAVO, who exactly is going to pay the bill for the wars your guy started?




One thing that sucks about our election process is that Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden will only debate amongst themselves. The last time I remember the candidates having an open debate forum was in 2000 when Gore and Bush were also debating with Independant candidates. I remember Bush refusing to debate in 2004, unless it was only a limited number of times and that there would be no Independant candidates. Yet another shitty thing that Bush fucked America on and eight years later, we have Obama, who is too polite, and Romney, who changes positions depending on which reporters or tv networks he's talking to.

Obama's getting my vote regardless, because Republicans suck.

What? cutting spending won't reduce debt? you must work for congress.


Cutting spending is cutting spending, but won't pay for the debt. The debts not going to pay for itself. Money has to come out of somebodies pocket. Who's pocket will it be?

It's like having a credit card. If you stop buying stuff on your card thats maxed out, you still have to pay the banks their money back with interest. Who's going to pay for it BRAVO? Your'e skirting the responsibility of paying for your credit card purchases.

I'm not financially profiting from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The weapons industry, the oil industry, construction contractors and private security contractors are all making money. Why should I have to pay for these businesses to make a profit,en I won't see a single dime of it?


Cutting spending stops the debt from increasing but the accumulated debt still needs to be paid for, and with interest. You can cut all spending to zero right now, but he accumulated debt is still there. Who's going to pay for that BRAVO? Which class of people is Romney going to raise taxes on to pay for the debt that has accumulated?


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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
Debt and deficit, do you run your budget like congress?
The main reason we're going around in circles on this one is because the small group of people who get to benefit the most from this poxy system sit back and watch the rest of us argue over how the scraps that fall from their table get spent on social infrastructure while taking little or no responsibility for it.

And this shit fight over the details keeps us busy while they keep on raking it in virtually unopposed.

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BBP wrote:
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I was right about Lance Armstrong.[/gloat]

Damn, I am so gullible. I thought he was the real thing until recently. Another one bites the dust.

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It's a disgrace. He's both killed the Tour de France and attempted to sickly wipe his own name clean with that Livestrong-stuff of his.


So he was doping? They've never been able to prove it like they have in almost ever other case.

I guess they have lots of former teammates willing to testify against him. He's dirty and a liar imo. Not that it makes a heck of a lot of difference but I always thought old Lance was a dick, cancer awareness or not.

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I was right about Lance Armstrong.[/gloat]

Damn, I am so gullible. I thought he was the real thing until recently. Another one bites the dust.


You and most other people. My sister was a supporter of his. Baaaah. She even dragged me to the finish of a Tour section in Valkenburg, 2006.

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The European Union wins the Nobel Peace Prize...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Prize.html

...which I suppose means that as an inhabitant of the European Union I have won the Nobel Peace Prize. I plan to keep it in the bathroom.

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We're all winners! :mrgreen:

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We're all winners! :mrgreen:


Yeah, look at us - not fighting! :mrgreen:

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Caputh wrote:
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We're all winners! :mrgreen:


Yeah, look at us - not fighting! :mrgreen:



Your all so Eruopean... :mrgreen:

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Your all so Eruopean...


You're so American... :P

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Plook wrote:

Your all so Eruopean...


You're so American... :P

You're so professional.

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I did not read everyting on this page cuz it gave me an headache, but i think the problem is the productivity, pay everyone by job & not by hour it will boost the productivity.
also the media should make publicity about honest people & not the liars at the governments.

Be more productive, be honest , be proud, show YOU can change the world.

we never see that on TV :roll:

edit: i would also trade all the weather channels or weather time at TV to show human dumps we have, with a message like: look what amount of garbages we do, be productive but stop reproduce
we are a virus for our mother earth.

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I did not read everyting on this page cuz it gave me an headache, but i think the problem is the productivity, pay everyone by job & not by hour it will boost the productivity.
also the media should make publicity about honest people & not the liars at the governments.

Be more productive, be honest , be proud, show YOU can change the world.

we never see that on TV :roll:

edit: i would also trade all the weather channels or weather time at TV to show human dumps we have, with a message like: look what amount of garbages we do, be productive but stop reproduce
we are a virus for our mother earth.



There are to many associated task with most jobs to pay by the piece and be fair to the employee, many jobs require things like:

Regular training requirering certifications
Annual training requirering certification
Review of new product updates
Systems training
Systems review
Review of documentation before performing a task
Creation of documentation before performing a task
Creation of post task reports
Scheduling
Booking
Rectification
Attending Meetings
Attending conferances

To name a few, none of this activity can be captured using a piece work model.

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British front pages are dominated by sexist stereotypes, according to Guardian research.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/14/sexist-stereotypes-front-pages-newspapers

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A major art theft in The Netherlands: seven major paintings were stolen from the Kunsthalle in Rotterdam. Among them a Picasso, two Monets, a Gauguin and a Matisse.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/Binnenland/article/detail/3332410/2012/10/16/Zeven-topschilderijen-gestolen-uit-Kunsthal.dhtml

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A major art theft in The Netherlands: seven major paintings were stolen from the Kunsthalle in Rotterdam. Among them a Picasso, two Monets, a Gauguin and a Matisse.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/Binnenland/article/detail/3332410/2012/10/16/Zeven-topschilderijen-gestolen-uit-Kunsthal.dhtml


To what outcome? Are there black market people willing to buy them? I've heard of it before, but not for a while.

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