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I mean...he did come up with the Big Note theory in the sixties


Zappa's 'Big Note theory' is very reminiscent of the Hindu concept of Ohm.
since Zappa supposedly studied Hinduism and Zen and all that jazz in high school, well...


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I doubt Frank did get religion but I distinctly remember reading an interview with him once where somebody asked him if he was religious and I think he replied (I imagine facetiously): "Yes. I'm a confirmed pagan."

Oddly enough, a friend of mine told me yesterday that he used to work with Vic Mortensen, who played with CB and knew Frank. Mortensen told him this story: waaay back one night in the 60s, the three were hanging out and they all went in some place together. FZ had his guitar with him and left it in the car. Vic asked FZ if he really wanted to leave the guitar there, since apparently the locks were broken on the car, and FZ said, "Yeah, it'll be okay. I put a hex on it." (As it turned out, nobody took the guitar...)

Again, he was probably being facetious, but...

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I mean...he did come up with the Big Note theory in the sixties


Zappa's 'Big Note theory' is very reminiscent of the Hindu concept of Ohm.
since Zappa supposedly studied Hinduism and Zen and all that jazz in high school, well...


Nice observation. And it is valid to point out that both concepts somehow relate with the superstring theory:

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The basic idea is that the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck length (about 10^−35 m) which vibrate at resonant frequencies. Every string in theory has a unique resonance, or harmonic. Different harmonics determine different fundamental forces. The tension in a string is on the order of the Planck force (10^44 newtons). The graviton (the proposed messenger particle of the gravitational force), for example, is predicted by the theory to be a string with wave amplitude zero. Another key insight provided by the theory is that no measurable differences can be detected between strings that wrap around dimensions smaller than themselves and those that move along larger dimensions (i.e., effects in a dimension of size R equal those whose size is 1/R). Singularities are avoided because the observed consequences of "Big Crunches" never reach zero size. In fact, should the universe begin a "big crunch" sort of process, string theory dictates that the universe could never be smaller than the size of a string, at which point it would actually begin expanding.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstring

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thanks Sabrina,

It's a shame Frank isn't around to see the recent scientific developments in frequency research

Keep an eye out for the upcoming book 'Emanation of the Solfeggio'
by Dr Dan Burisch PhD & Marcia McDowell PhD
they have discovered the 'missing' Solfeggio frequencies

Scientists are already using Solfeggio freq 528 to repair DNA

Metaphysics and science are finally coming together...it's an exciting time

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thanks Sabrina ...

I tried following the thread but where's the post you're thanking Sabrina for?

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heh...I just had a mind-meld...so yup

but I'll thank her anyway 'cos she's a nice person

and it's nice to know nice people

nicenessness rools!

actually I meant Mr Green Genes
mebbe 'cos they have similar avs

I got corn-fused!

so thank you Mr Green Genes!

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"I would consider myself to be religious but unchurched." FZ

Not an atheist!


He came from a Roman Catholic family, with half my family the same, I'd say this is a common response...(the non-church going) alot usually end up making up their own theories and ponderings and the religion has become synonomous as an "enviornment of up-bringing" rather than specifics on your present belief for alot of people from Catholic families out there.

I'd say he'd be agnostic at best, but when you have so much b.s. (televangelism ect) thrown at you its so easy to lash back and be provoking and annoy the fuck outta people just by saying "there is no god" ,just to piss some people off.

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heh...I just had a mind-meld...so yup

but I'll thank her anyway 'cos she's a nice person

and it's nice to know nice people

nicenessness rools!

actually I meant Mr Green Genes
mebbe 'cos they have similar avs

I got corn-fused!

so thank you Mr Green Genes!


Anyway, thanks Mutron. It's nice to have your niceness recognized! :mrgreen: I know very little about super string theory, but I do know a bit about Hinduism and Zen and I would have to agree with Feral Cats that it is very likely that Frank got the Big Note theory from Hinduism. I think if he had been a Hindu of some stripe he would have been an Advaita Vedantist ala Shankara or Swami Vivekananda. A Jnani. Zen evidently appealed to him too and it fits his behavior very well.

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mutronboy wrote:
heh...I just had a mind-meld...so yup

but I'll thank her anyway 'cos she's a nice person

and it's nice to know nice people

nicenessness rools!

actually I meant Mr Green Genes
mebbe 'cos they have similar avs

I got corn-fused!

so thank you Mr Green Genes!


Anyway, thanks Mutron. It's nice to have your niceness recognized! :mrgreen: I know very little about super string theory, but I do know a bit about Hinduism and Zen and I would have to agree with Feral Cats that it is very likely that Frank got the Big Note theory from Hinduism. I think if he had been a Hindu of some stripe he would have been an Advaita Vedantist ala Shankara or Swami Vivekananda. A Jnani. Zen evidently appealed to him too and it fits his behavior very well.


Most likely a Jnani...he would've loved Bhagwan
I just listened to Bhagwan's dissertation about the word 'fuck'
Although Bhagwan abhorred Hinduism because of the caste system

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mutronboy wrote:
sabrinaIII wrote:
mutronboy wrote:
heh...I just had a mind-meld...so yup

but I'll thank her anyway 'cos she's a nice person

and it's nice to know nice people

nicenessness rools!

actually I meant Mr Green Genes
mebbe 'cos they have similar avs

I got corn-fused!

so thank you Mr Green Genes!


Anyway, thanks Mutron. It's nice to have your niceness recognized! :mrgreen: I know very little about super string theory, but I do know a bit about Hinduism and Zen and I would have to agree with Feral Cats that it is very likely that Frank got the Big Note theory from Hinduism. I think if he had been a Hindu of some stripe he would have been an Advaita Vedantist ala Shankara or Swami Vivekananda. A Jnani. Zen evidently appealed to him too and it fits his behavior very well.


Most likely a Jnani...he would've loved Bhagwan
I just listened to Bhagwan's dissertation about the word 'fuck'
Although Bhagwan abhorred Hinduism because of the caste system


Are you referring to Bhagwan Rajneesh? Now, there is a character! :lol:

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...and what did the Bag-One think about the word fuck?


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linky with vid (funnier to watch than to read)

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message484967/pg1

transcript;

BELOVED MASTER,
I FEEL SHOCKED WHEN YOU USE THE WORD 'FUCK'.
WHAT TO DO?

Sargamo, it is one of the most beautiful words.
The English language should be proud of it.
I don't think any other language has such a beautiful word.
One Tom from California has done some great research on it.
I think he must be the famous Tom of Tom, Dick and Harry fame.
He says: One of the most interesting words in the English language today is the word 'fuck'.
It is one magical word: just by its sound it can describe pain, pleasure, hate and love.
In language it falls into many grammatical categories.
It can be used as a verb, both transitive (John fucked Mary) and intransitive (Mary was fucked by John), and as a noun (Mary is a fine fuck).
It can be used as an adjective (Mary is fucking beautiful).
As you can see there are not many words with the versatility of 'fuck'.
Besides the sexual meaning, there are also the following uses:

Fraud: I got fucked at the used car lot.
Ignorance: Fucked if I know.
Trouble: I guess I am fucked now!
Aggression: Fuck you!
Displeasure: What the fuck is going on here?
Difficulty: I can't understand this fucking job.
Incompetence: He is a fuck-off.
Suspicion: What the fuck are you doing?
Enjoyment: I had a fucking good time.
Request: Get the fuck out of here!
Hostility: I am going to knock your fucking head off!
Greeting: How the fuck are you?
Apathy: Who gives a fuck?
Innovation: Get a bigger fucking hammer.
Surprise: Fuck! You scared the shit out of me!
Anxiety: Today is really fucked. And it is very healthy too.

If every morning you do it as a Transcendental Meditation -- just when you get up,
the first thing, repeat the mantra "Fuck you!" five times -- it clears the throat.
That's how I keep my throat clear!
Enough for today.

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thanks MB, that's hilarious - laughter is the best medicine...well, after Music, of course. :lol:


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I think if he had been a Hindu of some stripe he would have been an Advaita Vedantist ala Shankara or Swami Vivekananda


Really? That's very interesting. I was raised a Advaita Vedantist; I still like Vivekananda, though I think I like Ramakrishna much more, simply because of his sense of humour (ever notice how all the 'great sages' of the world; Jesus, Socrates, etc., all seemed to be such huge perverts?). I'm curious as to why you think Zappa would have found it appealing. It has it's share of stupidity as well.


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Religion is the only company as a whole that sells " AFTER LIFE " insurance and i think that is just being greedy to want more after your dead.

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I think if he had been a Hindu of some stripe he would have been an Advaita Vedantist ala Shankara or Swami Vivekananda


Really? That's very interesting. I was raised a Advaita Vedantist; I still like Vivekananda, though I think I like Ramakrishna much more, simply because of his sense of humour (ever notice how all the 'great sages' of the world; Jesus, Socrates, etc., all seemed to be such huge perverts?). I'm curious as to why you think Zappa would have found it appealing. It has it's share of stupidity as well.


If you want to get technical, everything has its share of stupidity. Advaita Vedanta philosphy is not identical to the Vedanta society, which is heir to human failings as any organization. No philosophy is perfect. They all contradict themselves in the end. I think it would have appealed to Frank because it is not necessary to believe in Gods or Demons. Just merge yourself in the Big Note. It's why he would find Zen appealing. And because Swami Vivekananda was a great proponent of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps and dared many physical disasters to get his message across and accomplish his work. I never considered Sri Ramakrishna's sense of humor in the whole thing. I think the Zen master's sense of humor would have been closer to his.

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Evangelicals always talking crazy shit....

I was a WINO MAN
I stayed in rescue missions....
One preacher told us that the Russians bored a deep deep hole in the earth....
and then they lowered down a microphone....
and what did they hear?
WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.
scared the bejabbers out of them...
they filled in the hole.

and Astronomers have sighted the NEW JERUSALEM and it's headed this way!

AND...
this happened during the big earthquake in CA...early 90's?
anyway
on hearing the news of the earthquake the mission stiffs got it into their heads that "GOD DESTROYED THE PORN INDUSTRY!"
and they were all excited
proclaiming it
in Seattles Pioneer Square
at the Bread of Life...aka DREAD OF LIFE mission
(the mission stiffs are the bums that got saved and live and work at mission.)

they'll tell you anything to get you onboard.


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