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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:29 am 
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Hello, I wanna know if someone from the Zappa Family Trust read this message. Anyway....
Hi, I'm Horacio from Uruguay (tiny country, between Argentina and Brazil).
And I would like to know from some confident source, in which phase is the Roxy release (the movie, ok?). PLease, forgive my english.
The teaser trailer and the excerpts of Montana/Dupree's Paradise just make me more anxious, i hope you understand
I can't wait to see it and be able to use my favorite phrase: "Out of sight!".
Well, I hope someone related whit the ZFT read this and give me some kind of answer.
"Music Is The Best". And better on DVD!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:46 pm 
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Gail looks at the Forum occasionally. Her user name is gz. You can send her a private message, or email her at gail@zappa.com.

She gets a lot of questions concerning the Roxy video. She's well aware that Zappa fans want it. She will release it when it's done.

In the meantime, I suggest that you devote your attention to the upcoming release of Lumpy Money. If it lives up to expectations, it should rock the donkey's balls.

I hope you brought your raincoat. I think Jaypfunk's about to have a massive cerebral hemorrhage...

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I was really hoping to have LM by X-Mas...


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:01 am 
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Fumanche wrote:
Hi, I'm Horacio from Uruguay (tiny country, between Argentina and Brazil).


Situating it for Zappa fans, it is not far from Paraguay, by the side of Greggary Peccary's extreme distribution range...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:14 am 
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Yes, and Homer Simpson read our country name as "U-R-Gay". A very funny episode


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Fumanche wrote:
Yes, and Homer Simpson read our country name as "U-R-Gay". A very funny episode

At least we know they get the cultural programs, way down there.

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just plain doug wrote:
Fumanche wrote:
Yes, and Homer Simpson read our country name as "U-R-Gay". A very funny episode

At least we know they get the cultural programs, way down there.


It is called imperialism.

and I meant Greggary Peccary's distribution range extreme... :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:51 pm 
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Q: In your opinion, is it Imperialism if you like it, like Zappa and the Simpsons or is the country of origin and means of distribution then merely incidental?

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Hi Punky! Happy new year!

I am not sure I get the question, but what I meant is that in modern colony countries such as mine we have a strong culture of importing cultural garbage such as dumb TV series and FM music no one should care over here, given the diversity of local culture, but they do, given the amount of tv brainwashing... The side effect is that the good stuff ends up here as well, as in the old Simpsons and Zappa.

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Yes, you understood my query and answered it. Thanx! But your response makes me want to ask another.
The colonial/imperial thing you state as being a two-way street. The imperialists build the hose and cart it around,fill it full of spew, but the colonies [your term :wink: ] have to accept it and 'turn it on' and they do so and, like us, now crave it.
Even accepting all the spew so they can get the good bits, the green hocker as it were. :mrgreen:

I'm sure you know how India went thru a strong socialist/nationalist period, 1950's-'80's I guess. Buy India! on everything practically. And they've done alright for themselves overall and have even gone 'corporate' and increasingly laissez faire the last 20 years, to, naturally, mixed results. My question is , with south america seeming to get itself together to become increasingly economically self-sustainable, at least more and more so, do you think national consciousness may spring up in a way to limit external culture? Or do you see the future as more integrated, so to speak? Between countries in S America, between north and south, between south america and the rest of the world. . .

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:34 pm 
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Hum... Going completely out of topic, I will try to answer: No doubt the world becomes more and more interconnected in every way (culturally, economicaly, etc...), check the internet. I think in the particular case of Brazil we have yet to develop a more strong sense of nationalism. Here something is only considered good/quality/high standard if it is imported. Normally, national is a synonym of cheesy... Nationalism has both a good and a bad side. We still need to profit on it's good side, though.

Now, this model of global economy is clearly changing before out very eyes/lives... Uncertainties surround every possible prediction. I have become quite "mystic" in the last few year, and I believe major "apocalyptic" change is about to come, to shape a new future. I think that from the equilibrium point of view, as power is more equally shared among nations, more anarchic (in a good sense), decentralized political systems will emerge. But on the other hand, we see the rise in the domination/powers that be (i.e. imperialism), throwing the shit altogether against the fan, in order to take it over. And today, surveillance/control technologies can be quite Orwellian and effective. Being born in a country which has undergone a severe military dictatorship (1964-1984) makes me cringe about that prospect. I don't know what the about to be open Pandora's Box will bring us, but I can only hope for the best.

My "want-to-believe" prediction is that the capitalist dominating system will crumble with much suffering (ex: world war; not that I want it) and that mankind will make for a new era, with new paradigms, such as the presence of non-earth intelligence presence interacting with humans becoming unveiled...

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maybe. I sure don't know. I like following certain trends, to see what happens. I don't think the capitalist system will crumble, it'll morph. Morph into a number of variations. Imperialism is a kind of cultural mind-set too, more than a working system, I'd say. Big government the world over will find it can't do all it promises or that it thought it could. The pro-military hawks, neo-cons here have all been trying to cover their asses over the failures of Afghanistan and Iraq (and everything else) the last couple years. But the people are recognizing how fuct it's all been and everyone's looking for a way out of all of it. and now the economy.
you said:
"in Brazil we have yet to develop a more strong sense of nationalism".
Similarly now, I'll bet we'll see much less flag-waving for awhile here. I feel that you're description of how that is there is close to my experience here, until 9-11. And that in the culture at large, that was used for pro-military ends (and others) as a result. A parallel might be kidnappings and muggings, gang war killings and other violence that might be reguklarly common in some big cities there and I know is happening a lot in Columbia, Mexico et al. A certain increased sense of danger and uncertainty in the streets of cities. Also of course there are local protection rackets the world over. Yet the idea of national and local security, (protection 'from harm' and maintain adherence to laws) and who should maintain these is IMMEDIATELY in question with the decentralization of many government functions. The game changes. . . and has to be all sifted out again.

sorry, I am going on at length.
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