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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:38 am 
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I just find it interesting that since Halloween has come and gone and nothing occurred here, why Trendy isn't chiming in and explaining what the fuck happened. I don't like to come down on the guy, but he was spewing a lot of "in the know" shit a couple of weeks back that never materialized.

He's just sitting at home, patiently waiting for something/anything, sometime, somewhere, somehow.

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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
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thejonesfactor wrote:
I just find it interesting that since Halloween has come and gone and nothing occurred here,
why Trendy isn't chiming in and explaining what the fuck happened.
I don't like to come down on the guy, but he was spewing a lot of "in the know" shit a couple of weeks back that never materialized.


Whatever it is you think "In The Know" refers to while Halloween has come and gone
my stance has not changed and that is I do not disclose anything I have or have not been told on works in progress.
Let me put it in simple terms. The ZFT have many works in progress.
I hope I can say the following without my comments by themselves ruffling the feathers of this community.
Hey they probably will anyway be it if I reply or do not reply but 'll try my best to be a little bit responsive while maintaining
respect for the ZFT who have a right to do business as they see fit.

The specific project(s) I have discussed with anyone from the ZFT I continue to maintain 100% confidentiality.
Now Halloween is a time when we all traditionally have expected some expected and unexpected.
I don't want to get into too deep into the projected date I may or may not have been told on any given release
because then that just may open up another bag of rotten apples for the negative ones of this community
want to sling things at me and or the ZFT whenever their fanatical discontent could appear on any given day of the calendar.

Halloween has always been a time of the expected and unexpected. This has nothing to do with anything I have discussed
with the ZFT so all those day countdowns that led up to Halloween I would have posted regardless of any possible knowledge
of a works in progress. One would not expect that would change for Halloween 10,11,12,13,14 or whatever regardless if
Zappaween 2009's lack of an official product or announcement this past Halloween.

What I see that is more alarming is that Gail Zappa published an article where the comprehension level
of the Zappa community seems smaller than a puddle of piddle that gathers in the realms of digital media piracy
of the latest millennium facilitating proponents of some Free Art Society. Now that is a pretty large puddle.
the Imaginary Wallets of the world is one of those mystery diseases that seems to be spreading faster than H1N1.

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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:14 am 
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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:42 pm 
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Trendmonger wrote:
thejonesfactor wrote:
I just find it interesting that since Halloween has come and gone and nothing occurred here,
why Trendy isn't chiming in and explaining what the fuck happened.
I don't like to come down on the guy, but he was spewing a lot of "in the know" shit a couple of weeks back that never materialized.


Whatever it is you think "In The Know" refers to while Halloween has come and gone
my stance has not changed and that is I do not disclose anything I have or have not been told on works in progress.
Let me put it in simple terms. The ZFT have many works in progress.
I hope I can say the following without my comments by themselves ruffling the feathers of this community.
Hey they probably will anyway be it if I reply or do not reply but 'll try my best to be a little bit responsive while maintaining
respect for the ZFT who have a right to do business as they see fit.

The specific project(s) I have discussed with anyone from the ZFT I continue to maintain 100% confidentiality.
Now Halloween is a time when we all traditionally have expected some expected and unexpected.
I don't want to get into too deep into the projected date I may or may not have been told on any given release
because then that just may open up another bag of rotten apples for the negative ones of this community
want to sling things at me and or the ZFT whenever their fanatical discontent could appear on any given day of the calendar.

Halloween has always been a time of the expected and unexpected. This has nothing to do with anything I have discussed
with the ZFT so all those day countdowns that led up to Halloween I would have posted regardless of any possible knowledge
of a works in progress. One would not expect that would change for Halloween 10,11,12,13,14 or whatever regardless if
Zappaween 2009's lack of an official product or announcement this past Halloween.

What I see that is more alarming is that Gail Zappa published an article where the comprehension level
of the Zappa community seems smaller than a puddle of piddle that gathers in the realms of digital media piracy
of the latest millennium facilitating proponents of some Free Art Society. Now that is a pretty large puddle.
the Imaginary Wallets of the world is one of those mystery diseases that seems to be spreading faster than H1N1.


Thank you, Trendy, for that wonderful treatise (sic). Now over to Bill and a look at the 5-day forecast... Bill.


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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:05 pm 
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Trendy, just give me the date !!!


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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
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Thank you, psd, for the reminder of why I don't display Trendy's posts. This particular reply of Trendy's really shows how deluded he is (as if the others don't).
Trendy wrote:
I hope I can say the following without my comments by themselves ruffling the feathers of this community. Hey they probably will anyway be it if I reply or do not reply
How the fuck will his comments ruffle the feathers of this community if he doesn't make them???

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polydigm wrote:
Thank you, psd, for the reminder of why I don't display Trendy's posts. This particular reply of Trendy's really shows how deluded he is (as if the others don't).
Trendy wrote:
I hope I can say the following without my comments by themselves ruffling the feathers of this community. Hey they probably will anyway be it if I reply or do not reply
How the fuck will his comments ruffle the feathers of this community if he doesn't make them???


Well, since Trendy has swallowed GZ's essay whole-hog, we must be commenting using non-posts, while he reads our non-responses with non-eyes and listens to us with non-ears while "off-planet".

GZ wrote:
Music is exactly like sex in the sense that while human orifices are involved in the experience, the really fun part happens in the brain - the location of which will be found to be co-located in other regions of the body and even off-planet. And I hasten to add, when this happens, the deaf and others will hear real music and hearing will be redefined.

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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:40 pm 
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Trendy, just give me the date !!!

No dates I'll just give you the weather.

Being from Long Island I can only hope you are one of NY Finest Crazy Type Persons who remembers Tex Antoine.
You may or may not remember how the Conceptual Continuity of that old Confucius saying had ended the career
of Tex Antoine where he stated
"With rape so predominant in the news lately,
it is well to remember the words of Confucius:
'If rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it."


Now with PIRACY who the fuck is getting financially raped.
The artist that's who and no matter how it's distributed
the piracy issue has no sense of enjoyment
no matter what the price point of a recorded work is set at.
Fuck all the people who get involved in Bit Torrent Piracy.

And while on the topic of Weather if that was not good enough
Storm Field's tenure had rung in with a
"Lie back, relax and enjoy the weather with Storm"

Folks my idea of a good time is not lying back and watching piracy devalue the worth of an artists back catalog
or new product. It is my opinion that no matter what the artist sets the price point at that many people will
just go ahead and become a pirate or continue being prates if they have the 21st Century pirate DNA in them.
Now maybe some folks around here think that $25 a Download was their idea of financial rape but who is kidding who when
an artist of the likes of Trent Reznor suggests paying $5 for a download offering and at some point in the measurement
he only gets 20,000 of the 160,000 or so people who downloaded the project to pay the $5.
Anyhow this is not the case with what this topic is about.
The downloads are Free, Included in the ticket price.

As I await for my next Frank Zappa artisan product that will well be worth every penny of it's price point
if and when we are lucky enough t get it my philosophy is as follows
Official Zappa is an Artisan Product.
With PIRACY so predominant in the Music Industry The Last Decade, it is well to remember the words of Trendmonger.
If Zappa is your idea of the worlds finest optional entertainment, not only do I suggest you buy it honestly and lie back and enjoy it
but report each and every incident of piracy to enforcement authorities wherever possible. If people do not support the releases
one such possibility I had long pondered is a hold-back period until the feasibility for the fans to support the next release through traditional
methods is met with a higher feasibility quotient.

Enjoy your downloads when they are ready folks.
I for one am pulling for each and every Zappa fan to be supportive 100% on each and every official project.
Even if a project may not be your cup of tea where you don't run and get for example a Corsaga item as fast as say
a live concert. If I may suggest getting away from the extreme negativity.
That would benefit the project/object moving forward
for if and when those vault doors ever close we can only blame ourselves.

So while you wait that's one example of a weather forecast
Here is another.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:12 pm 
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Trendy, doe's Gail call you grasshopper? :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:36 pm 
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Trendy doesn't know anything.....Lets see more addition....Bound to get it right sooner or later. Will I wait for my D/L ?...Yes....Will it be worth the wait ?....yes.....Am I pissed it has taken so long ?.... Hell yes!!!!!! Will I bitch about it until it arrives.....Still reading and weeping... :evil:
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.....for now....or another year.

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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ downloads update.
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OBDULA X wrote:
Trendy doesn't know anything.....Lets see more addition....Bound to get it right sooner or later. Will I wait for my D/L ?...Yes....Will it be worth the wait ?....yes.....Am I pissed it has taken so long ?.... Hell yes!!!!!!
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.....for now....or another year.

Sister Obdula X


This is what I can tell you Mr 19 Posts. Welcome to the forum.
I am not going to sit here and take some stature of an I Told You So.
If and when some download or physical media project gets released
my cocnern is for myself and the community to positively embrace it.

You can remain positive or you can remain in some negative posture
that does nothing for moving the project/object forward. I know very well
what I have discussed with the ZFT and so do they. As I have stated 100% confidentiality.

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Also very funny to hear about the new and exciting projects in the works....How about the new and exciting project I was promised over a year ago !
Sister Obdula X

How many here would pay for YCFTOS 2010 with the promise to get a D/L sometime in the year 2011 or later?

P.S. I saw Frank live 15 times ZPZ 6 ....I own everything ever released and will buy the next new and exciting project.......Just Pissed !

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Mr 20 posts is just as big a fan as you are. Doesn't mean I have to swallow ! Thats your choice

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It's Mr 22 to you

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OBDULA X wrote:
Also very funny to hear about the new and exciting projects in the works....How about the new and exciting project I was promised over a year ago !
Sister Obdula X

How many here would pay for YCFTOS 2010 with the promise to get a D/L sometime in the year 2011 or later?

P.S. I saw Frank live 15 times ZPZ 6 ....I own everything ever released and will buy the next new and exciting project.......Just Pissed !

TRENDY! You have alot of rhetoric to xplane! 31=31? I guess your not Gails grasshopper after all.They do have 1 new biz.But that don't mean sh_t to a west coast a tree.BTW, what color undies did Sheila wear today? Dweeze? Joe? Gail!??? You should write for the National Enquirer.Y.Because,U,could go unoticed in such a place. :mrgreen:

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To those who say people complaining about the download are being pissy and crybabies....go fuck yourselves.

Hey if you purchased something off of amazon or ebay-you'd get the product within an acceptable time frame or be compensated. In the case of ebay you may have got scammed...which is the case of the download. They wouldn't be successful businesses if there policy was' you'll get it when you get it you fucking crybaby.'

Here there is no recourse. It's not that I can't live w/out the download but Christ show your customers a little respect.

Hope the Kool Aid taste good assholes.


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To those who say people complaining about the download are being pissy and crybabies....go fuck yourselves.

Hey if you purchased something off of amazon or ebay-you'd get the product within an acceptable time frame or be compensated. In the case of ebay you may have got scammed...which is the case of the download. They wouldn't be successful businesses if there policy was' you'll get it when you get it you fucking crybaby.'

Here there is no recourse. It's not that I can't live w/out the download but Christ show your customers a little respect.

Hope the Kool Aid taste good assholes.



Be glad you got to see the dam concert...the economy is in the dumper and you’re whining about a freaking download, but glad the fucking doors are still open.

This fucking thread is going to cause a shortage of cheese and crackers...not to mention little tissues for all the wet babies’ eyes...

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There's nothing wrong with knowing nothing about a particular topic.
There is, however, something wrong about not knowing anything about a particular topic and pretending you know something about a particular topic in order to impress a group of people who know that you don't know nothing about anything.


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Caputh wrote:
There's nothing wrong with knowing nothing about a particular topic.
There is, however, something wrong about not knowing anything about a particular topic and pretending you know something about a particular topic in order to impress a group of people who know that you don't know nothing about anything.



What the $#@%??? :?


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It would have been nice if I had the download from last Halloween to listen to on this Halloween.Don't promise things you can't deliver.Law suit anyone? Gail is no different then Sharon Osbourne.They're "only in it for the money".When I get my download maybe I'll see you again.In the meantime P/O is at BB Kings NY on Jan. 7th.---It's all about the music!


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youiswhatyouam wrote:
To those who say people complaining about the download are being pissy and crybabies....go fuck yourselves.

Hey if you purchased something off of amazon or ebay-you'd get the product within an acceptable time frame or be compensated. In the case of ebay you may have got scammed...which is the case of the download. They wouldn't be successful businesses if there policy was' you'll get it when you get it you fucking crybaby.'

Here there is no recourse. It's not that I can't live w/out the download but Christ show your customers a little respect.

Hope the Kool Aid taste good assholes.


OK, so not only are you determined to be a pissy crybaby about the whole thing, but now you want to fall to the ground and scream while kicking around in circles just to draw even more attention to you tiny sick tears.

Grow the fuck up.


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Plook wrote:
Caputh wrote:
There's nothing wrong with knowing nothing about a particular topic.
There is, however, something wrong about not knowing anything about a particular topic and pretending you know something about a particular topic in order to impress a group of people who know that you don't know nothing about anything.



What the $#@%??? :?


My humble attempt at Trendmongerese in the (desperately vain) hope that he might understand what I've posted. (Obviously, I should have included a few more spelling mistakes to make it even more opaque).


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