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Do you guys own the Halloween 1977 3-CD set boot? Is it any good?

The worst bootleg I've heard was the opening number of the ill-fated Palermo concert. Horrible. It was barely music. But the sound quality of bootlegs isn't always bad, it's never excellent but sometimes good.

The Halloween 1978 boot is a four-CD set, the one I'm talking about is a three-CD set. It was probably recorded in 1977 then (in New York City I think). <br>Or maybe there are two boots of this show But I doubt

i'm a young french consumor of zappa products and you talking about a lot of bootlegs sometimes where are you living (and if it's the u.s. where state?)???i'd like to see others bootlegs than freaks and motherfuckers who is legal here!

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[quote author=terry_dunbar link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=0#4 date=11/08/03 at 03:37:54]i'm a young french consumor of zappa products and you talking about a lot of bootlegs sometimes where are you living (and if it's the u.s. where state?)???i'd like to see others bootlegs than freaks and motherfuckers who is legal here![/quote]<br>Moi aussi je suis français. Tu trouveras des références de bootlegs sur ce forum. Certains de ces enregistrements sont fabuleux. Si tu t'y perds, n'hésite pas à demander, je posterai une petite liste.<br><br>(Excuse us guys, this was a message between 2 French forumers.)

The '77 Halloween show was broadcast on King Biscuit.<br> It is nearly an hour long, and is a stereo FM A quality boot.<br>  Their are also two Audience boots. One is nearly A- quality. Depends on the generation of tape.

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I finally got a copy of this show, the title of this 3-CD set (with a horrible cover!!!) is Zappy Halloween. Actually it originates from October 30th and 31st shows. The sound is, well, so so  

There is a bootleg called Hot Rats Live at the Olympic.<br><br>I dunno, but it seems like it is the best one according to allmusic.com.<br><br>http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDCASS80312111129320039&sql=Auz7uak6kkm3v<br><br> -/dr_grogg<br><br>

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Twinkle Tits!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote author=jimmie d link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=0#9 date=12/12/03 at 09:30:33][center]<br>It's missing the final cut.<br>[/quote]<br><br>Yeah i thought so aswell like "Isn't it 1 more song?".<br><br>But now it's "righted" up.<br><br> -/dr_grogg<br><br>

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aynlsey dunbar,sugar cane(there's a sharleena version with him on the vocals on the lost episodes,good archive disc with mystery disc),hot rats band??????????????????NOW GUYS I HAVE TO GET MY CREDIT CARD FFFAAASSSTTT,lol but there's not a lot of songs,33rpm!!!but willie the pimp,i haven't got ycdtosa1,2,4,5so...one day,i will take money and buy a house in l.a. to get some boots...(december,,,baby snakes!!!)

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Isn't halloween 77 part of the Baby Snakes DVD?

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[quote author=Rev._HBO link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=0#13 date=01/07/04 at 04:34:30]Isn't halloween 77 part of the Baby Snakes DVD?[/quote]<br>yes it is.  :)

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[quote author=Thing-Fish24 link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=0#14 date=01/07/04 at 13:10:48]...Happy Halloween 1978 (3-CD Box) Palladium, New York, 31-Oct-1978<br>Label: Moustache's Magic Music MMM-02-14/15/16 (2003) sound quality: "poor"<br><br>So, in other words, NO.<br>If any of you out there own this boot, throw it in the fucking trash and get the Halloween DVD-Audio disk that the ZFT issued.[/quote]<br><br>well, the DVD-a is definately worth getting, buts it's only a few tracks compiled from the entire 4-day/6-concert run <br><br><br>the 4-hour boot from oct-31 '78 is (imo) a must-have boot, one of the best shows frank ever pulled off; the sound quality is not poor for the most part, shankar's stuff comes in quite nicely<br><br><br><br>read the rest of the review [sub][/sub]<br>

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I got the Halloween boot by trading, like many others much earlier than the official DVD-A came out. These two items are not comparable. <br>When you go for boots you know you cannot have high expectations regarding the audio quality, but this particular one is definitely listeneable. <br>It is a wonderful experience and it is the closest you can get to witnessing the event in case you missed it (like myself). <br>I bought the DVD-A as soon as it came out and I will buy everything the ZFT will decide to publish, but I played it maybe a couple of times, standing the magnificent audio quality and so on, it just doesn't bring me the emotions that the boots from that wonderful NYC run do.<br>I will never thank enough the guys who taped this and all the other shows, if it wasn't for them I would have missed hundreds of hours of some of the best music ever played. <br>Thus said, collecting boots doesn't keep me from buying official releases as soon as they come out, indeed it just makes me hungrier for more.<br>So I don't understand why to be so harsh about concert tapes, as devote fans we should be more than pleased that they exist!

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[quote author=Thing-Fish24 link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=15#16 date=01/07/04 at 15:35:54]<br><br><br>IT'S AN AUDIENCE RECORDING, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!<br>The Halloween DVD-A was recorded professionally by FZ, not recorded with a shitty tape recorder by some little greaseball in the audience who then sells the tape to some asshole who unproffessionally masters the recording and makes a bootleg record out of it![/quote]<br><br>And it has all the hits: Dancin' fool, Camarillo brillo and Dinah-Moe Humm and we don't have to listen to that Shankar guy as much. To be serious, if I had to choose, I'd take the bootleg. I'd rather have a full show than a greatest hits. Good music before good sound. <br>

Throw away tracks, are you insane. Have you heard the Packard Goose.  Like most of us, I'll but whatever the ZFT releases, but the track choices the Dweez gave us leaves me scratchin my head. Even Frank has joked about how many times he's played Dinah-Mo Humm.

[quote author=icculus link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=15#20 date=01/08/04 at 12:34:08]Throw away tracks, are you insane. [/quote]<br>you're talking to a guy who got rid of his sleep dirt vinyl <br><br>[center][img width=175 height=195]http://www.basscult.com/cyber/laughing.gif[/img][/center]

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[quote author=Idiot Bastardson link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=15#26 date=01/08/04 at 15:54:02]<br><br><br>Great link man.....Im lucky to have all 6 shows in my files ;D[/quote]<br>yeah, pretty cool link.  yer lucky to have all nites!  i'll just have to listen to zeets over and over again. :-/

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[quote author=Idiot Bastardson link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=15#23 date=01/08/04 at 13:41:27]<br><br><br>How about the 10:25 City of tiny lights??<br>How about Pound for a brown??<br>How about Thirteen?? ok, I know thats available somewhere else but still.....<br>How about "Fantasy from a girl in the Audience??<br>How about the fucking 18:20 long "Little house I used to live in"?? <br>13:45 Watermelon in easter hay?? <br>18:55 Packard Goose?? <br>the songs from 200 Motels?? you believe they are throw away too??<br><br>[/quote]<br><br><br>Damn it, now I really wish I had that show. I found most of it on winmx but not everything. <br>I guess throwaway means you can't dance to it?<br>

[quote author=Thing-Fish24 link=board=concerts;num=1068182389;start=30#31 date=01/09/04 at 17:05:26]<br><br>Throwaway means that they're bad songs ... or bad preformances of good songs.[/quote]<br>throwaway is a subjective term.....that halloween 78 run is "arguably" THE best shows fz EVER played.   i would listen to this run thru a shit tube...if i had the chance.  i need these....that reminds me, i have to pm the IDIOT!......hahaha

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Ok, I just had to dig up this thread because Halloween 78 is fucking awesome! <br>(77 is really great too, but for me there's no competition.)<br>Once you've heard the whole show, the DVD-A is really disappointing.<br>They left out all the good stuff, except Ancient armaments, which is edited, and Napkins/Horsie.<br>What the hell were they thinking?<br>You wanna talk throwaway tracks?<br>Just look at the tracklist on the official release, ever seen those titles before?<br>Compare that to FZ and Shankar switching solos for 10 minutes on Watermelon, or for 15 minutes on Packard goose. It's pure magic.<br>This is without a doubt my favorite Zappa show, and I think it's a shame that instead of realeasing 4 hours of incredible, beautiful music they went with 70 minutes of hits we've already paid for several times.<br><br>I know, complaining about this release is getting pretty old, I just had to do it one last time, now that I've heard what could have been. <br><br>

Halloween 78 DVD-A = Big waste of fucking time!!<br>Boo on technology. Just gimme the whole fucking show next time ZFT!!!!

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