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In 1984 I saw The Gerry Garcia band open for Frank in Chicago..What sticks in my mind was that you could tell who was there for Frank (fans) And it was obvious, Who was there for the Dead (fans) The Ty/dye shirts was the first clue and the long hippie dresses the girls wore..Besides not a lot of women were there for Frank. I never was a big fan of the Dead..And no disrespect to those that are but.. They sucked! I could not wait for Garcia to get off the stage. To me he was as wasted as much as the fans were. people spinning..waving their hands in the air..heads tipped back.(and that was in just in the line to get in!) Endless shitty guitar solos. The only thing good was the free high I got from all the pot smoke that was dominating the Oxygen that night! When Frank got on..A lot of the Dead fans started to leave the building..I thought that was disrespectful but I didn't give a fuck..I actually was happy about that. Frank and the band were Awesome..At one point I think he even made a dig at the Garcia band I think it was about a song called Deal? They played..Ride My Face To Chicago and The Illinois Enema Bandit..The crowd went wild. I know a lot of fans will agree with me on this..Ray White is the Best...No one can ever replace that voice! I was glad to see him again with ZPZ and I will truly miss him. I remember Bobby's high voice on the song..He's so Gay! I laughed my ass off!..They played at least twenty songs that night (I have the set list somewhere) It was a very odd night with the combo of fans but it was another night I'll never forget!



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1984 08 18 - Pavilion, University of Illinois, Chicago, IL

Zoot Allures, Trouble Every Day, Penguin In Bondage, Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel, City Of Tiny Lights, You Are What You Is, Mudd Club, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing, Dumb All Over, He's So Gay, Bobby Brown, Keep It Greasey, Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?, Carol You Fool, Chana In De Bushwop, Let's Move To Cleveland, Cosmik Debris, Sharleena, Ride My Face To Chicago, The Illinois Enema Bandit


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Since the advent of the internet I’ve been lurking around Zappa sites galore and I’ve been impressed with how just many have seen the light; lists of every show ever played, lists of every song ever played, etc... I came to realize that most of you Zappa freaks are “Euros” and I guess Frank has been way more popular over there because in the US fanatics were far and few between. I’d like to share my first live experience.

My first Zappa show was Mother’s Day 1970, Fillmore East, NYC. The band was a hybrid mothers with Moterhead, Ray Collins, Billy Mundi, Aynsley Dunbar, Jeff Simmons, Ian Underwood, Don Preston and Frank. I was just starting to dig the mother’s albums but missed the boat on seeing the original band. The show was on Friday night (late) and I was so blown away that I bought a ticket for the next day (Saturday late show, the fillmore had four shows per weekend, fri & sat early/late, tix were $3.50, $4.50 & $5.50). Things I remember: Motorhead using his bari sax as a stool and looking real cool, Ray singing “My Boyfriends Back” (he’s gonna save my reputation!, I laughed my ass off), Frank setting up a song by telling a Doors like tale (The End) that culminated with beating off in your teenage room with a copy of playboy. The following night he said fuck the story how about a Jeff Simmons bass solo, take it away Jeff…. I had been to lots of “hip” shows but I’d never seen anyone so in control and command of a band and the audience like Frank was. His presence and comportment were truly impressive; the shows were mesmerizing to me. From that weekend forward I became an aficionado of all things FZ. I was most intense long ago in the analog days and spent many hours in my college library searching all the news indices and digging through piles of microfiche to read all I could about Frank. I’m older and mellower but still dig the shit out of his music.

This will annoy a lot of you, my favorite FZ band ever contained Flo and Eddie ( I was there when John and Yoko came out for an encore, the house went wild). You cannot judge a band through crappy quality bootleg recordings; even the proper albums do not do justice to the coolness, playfulness, intensity and creativity of that band live. The ’74 band comes next on my list. Still waiting for the Roxy DVD!


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My older brother introduced me to fz in 1981 and i have seen the nov 8 1984 show in Québec city and ZpZ 3 times. I think i am the bigger fan in my town. Today i heard Zappa music in a little store on a corner street. I said to the guy who worked there oh Zappa music he said yes i love Zappa. I told him i had all the cds so he said how many he has now 60? i said no around 88 he said wow and my bus arrived.

Now there ya go! Pass FZ forward,then tell us here! See Zut_bof its easy! I hope you went back!? :mrgreen:
I dont know when i'll go back there if it will be his working day, but normally i hate Zappa fans :wink:

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My first Zappa show was Mother’s Day 1970, Fillmore East, NYC.

This will annoy a lot of you, my favorite FZ band ever contained Flo and Eddie ( I was there when John and Yoko came out for an encore, the house went wild). You cannot judge a band through crappy quality bootleg recordings; even the proper albums do not do justice to the coolness, playfulness, intensity and creativity of that band live. The ’74 band comes next on my list. Still waiting for the Roxy DVD!



i'm with you on the flo&eddie thing. that is my personal favourite. there are a few of us. AND, i live in augusta,ga so there are some fanatics in north america! :D

also, i have a bootleg of that mothers reunion show at the fillmore. whish i could've been there!

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Since the advent of the internet I’ve been lurking around Zappa sites galore and I’ve been impressed with how just many have seen the light; lists of every show ever played, lists of every song ever played, etc... I came to realize that most of you Zappa freaks are “Euros” and I guess Frank has been way more popular over there because in the US fanatics were far and few between. I’d like to share my first live experience.

My first Zappa show was Mother’s Day 1970, Fillmore East, NYC. The band was a hybrid mothers with Moterhead, Ray Collins, Billy Mundi, Aynsley Dunbar, Jeff Simmons, Ian Underwood, Don Preston and Frank. I was just starting to dig the mother’s albums but missed the boat on seeing the original band. The show was on Friday night (late) and I was so blown away that I bought a ticket for the next day (Saturday late show, the fillmore had four shows per weekend, fri & sat early/late, tix were $3.50, $4.50 & $5.50). Things I remember: Motorhead using his bari sax as a stool and looking real cool, Ray singing “My Boyfriends Back” (he’s gonna save my reputation!, I laughed my ass off), Frank setting up a song by telling a Doors like tale (The End) that culminated with beating off in your teenage room with a copy of playboy. The following night he said fuck the story how about a Jeff Simmons bass solo, take it away Jeff…. I had been to lots of “hip” shows but I’d never seen anyone so in control and command of a band and the audience like Frank was. His presence and comportment were truly impressive; the shows were mesmerizing to me. From that weekend forward I became an aficionado of all things FZ. I was most intense long ago in the analog days and spent many hours in my college library searching all the news indices and digging through piles of microfiche to read all I could about Frank. I’m older and mellower but still dig the shit out of his music.

This will annoy a lot of you, my favorite FZ band ever contained Flo and Eddie ( I was there when John and Yoko came out for an encore, the house went wild). You cannot judge a band through crappy quality bootleg recordings; even the proper albums do not do justice to the coolness, playfulness, intensity and creativity of that band live. The ’74 band comes next on my list. Still waiting for the Roxy DVD!


Thank you very much for your recollection. You lucky bastard!

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Girls from all over the world.
Love to write my name on the toilet walls,
of the Whiskey A-GO-GO.for I am Bwana Dick-ya,
me Bwana Dick, whoa! 8)
Let the Flo and Eddie show flow forever! :lol:
Imagine me and you,I do,I think about you day and night,it's only right.,
everyone sing along like a big rock show!!! :mrgreen:




I met my wife because of a concert at the Whiskey A-GO-GO!


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I had a girlfriend that was 16 at the time and she got sick and could not go to the gig (2 hrs before leaving for the show), so I asked a friend of mine that was guitarist in a band since the lead in Budgie (the band) was something to see, he said ok. We went enjoyed the show drove back (about 25min.) talked about the show, got off the freeway and he asked, "you want to go to my girlfriends house; she has a roommate you may want to meet?” Six weeks later we went on our first date to see Todd Rundgren at the Roxy. Here is the part that is so serendipitous, both concert are on live albums, about 1/2 of "Back to the Bars" is our first date.


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To bad no one else saw the Bongo Fury tour, but me??? :mrgreen:

I would have loved to have seen that tour but FZ did not visit Portland Or with the Captain. I did try to see CB in I think 78 but it was at a over 21 club so I was outa luck!

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To bad no one else saw the Bongo Fury tour, but me??? :mrgreen:


Technically speaking the Winterland gig wasn't part of the Bongo Fury tour. It was FZ's next tour. Beefheart opened for FZ at this gig but wasn't in FZ's band.


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Hi, I have seen FZ two times, but far away from the mothers.
1st time was about 89 in Offenbach (near Frankfurt). It was very crowdy and there was no good mood between the band and the audience, I guess a lot of the people were drunken and/or stoned and I wished them to hell, they just were loud and disturbing (I was stoned too, but I was attentive anyway). Before the concert I could peep over someones shoulder before me who browsed a book with a program. Suddenly my heart stood still, cause I read these two names ending with Fowler (I knew about 25 albums at that time, one of them was roxy and elsewhwere) and I was much more thrilled as I was anyway. They started with a rocking piece, guess it was tell me u love me, the way it is played on tinseltown rebellion. They played a lot of the unknown new songs and it was difficult to get into it, cause the words were very important and the issues were very american (TV-preachers, republicans...). Stuff like bolero was much more accesible for a german listener. I also can remember a clear-like-glass solo of Bruce Fowler (maybe it was big swifty, which was a usual container for jazzsolos in that tour). Another memory is the kind FZ conducted the band in a moment, when it failed: He gave his signs to the musicians, also to Ed Mann. But this one was very sunken in his playing in this moment (eyes downwards) and so didn't notice the order. Zappa began to run into the direction of Ed Mann who "woke up" cause of this suddenly movement on stage. This moment made the otherwise invisible puppetstrings between FZ and the musicians visible for a few seconds and I could see that it just worked the way, it was described in the books about FZ. I also remember, maybe it was the same (instrumental) piece: after FZ did a lot of conducting and using the synclavier he just kept sitting on his chair, his whole body turned towards the audience, his ellbow resting on the synclavier and his head resting on his hand. He just kept sitting this way and looking provocative into the audience just as he wanted to say: I have set now all the controls for the big machine behind me and it works, are you impressed? Meanwhile the band played ahead this crazy complicated stuff accompained by the funny vocalsamples out of the synclavier. After the concert we called them mickey-mouse-voices, when the CDs then were released I recognized them as the same samples as used on pornwars.
I only have a little fragment of the concertticket, cause the guy at the ticketcontrol just threw it onto the floor. I put it into the case of You can't..Vol 1, cause that was the next release after the concert, it is still in there.
My 2nd concertexperience will come later here, cu :wink:


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Thanks for the story, Ursinator. I've seen the '88 shows in Köln and Dortmund. Here's a new ticket for you:

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Thanks for the new ticket Fritz
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It is much better preserved than mine. I never recorded the date of the concert in any way, so I have it confirmed now this way after all the years :lol: .
A friend of me later also visited the Dortmund-show. As he told it must have been better than the one in Offenbach (same band, better audience).
Super, vielen Dank :lol:

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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
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To bad no one else saw the Bongo Fury tour, but me??? :mrgreen:


Technically speaking the Winterland gig wasn't part of the Bongo Fury tour. It was FZ's next tour. Beefheart opened for FZ at this gig but wasn't in FZ's band.

Let me know if I'm close,I saw the preview to the BF tour? Like I say before,I don't remember Napi.or Terry B,there!?

CB opened for FZ,Winterland Ca. mutated into 200ys.old,then it was all FZ!!!! Thats the show I saw! Phuzby? are you paying attention por favor,if you please!? :wink:


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Really? So the Bongo Fury Tour took off after that,in `76? By the way pbuzby, were you at the Winterland show? :mrgreen:


No, I never saw Zappa.

The Bongo Fury tour was in April/May '75. After that Beefheart put together a new Magic Band which opened for Zappa at those December '75 shows in California.


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