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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:31 am 
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Tickets on sale at the Theater site.

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http://www.wellmonttheatre.com/event/3549


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:59 am 
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Thanks for the heads up on this one... this show is two weeks prior to Texas... which is where I thought the tour was gonna start...

who knows maybe I wont have to travel so far...

(I already bought tix for Dallas... :P )


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:00 pm 
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Get in on this right now. 2nd row center tickets are still coming up.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:47 pm 
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This puts them within a stones throw to NYC close to Halloween:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Montclair&state=NJ

Things are lookin a little Brighter for The Beacon on Halloween.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:28 pm 
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NYC not happening. Wellmont in NJ is a one off gig. Nothing close to it


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 am 
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chumcloud wrote:
NYC not happening. Wellmont in NJ is a one off gig. Nothing close to it

Thanks for the confirmation !

I understand that ZpZ will be performing on the Jimmy Fallon show about that time as well ~ Ben Thomas gonna "slow jam" the news!! :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 am 
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lisab wrote:
Get in on this right now. 2nd row center tickets are still coming up.


While the fidelity should be very good throughout the majority of the venue a word of caution about being
too close with these modern MIX situations wher a guitarst is using the amazing Fractal Audio without any amps.
Maybe there will be some small PA speakers on the stage that help deliver clear sound to the first few rows in the center
as this is one solution that helps out in these situations.

I know some people really love being up close but I just want to alert
the community that being back a little and center is where the fidelity is.
There is nothing wrong with getting in early on ticketing but up front in the first few rows is not always
optimal. If there is a way to call in and choose specific seating you could very well be better off
if fidelity is your goal. But then again there is a good selection of many seating groups
with a variety of price ranges that you can choose seating from.

As some may be aware at this point Dweezil has been playing with a Fractal Audio Setup
that does not include any Guitar Amplifiers. While his guitar rigs do change from time to time
the 3 shows I saw with him in 2009 using the Fractal Audio Systems Axe-Fx were the finest sounding shows yet.
DZs guitar sounds as good as any guitar I have ever heard live. If you want to hear DZs guitar as it was designed
some common sense needs to be applied if one wants to hear the live MIX in fidelity.
I believe the fractal can boost at specific frequency intervals on 3 separate guitar channel patches
at one time. For some it would be a shame to let DZs guitar to be heard all muddled.
While the other musicians have amps on stage DZs may only be coming from PA
so it all goes over your head if one is not in a position to hear a PA MIX with any clarity.
The guitar may very well be muddled to a certain extent that is deserved of mention to those that care
It may have a loud ambient wall of sound tonality that you can still hear but what you hear is from the guitar in the PA MIX
bouncing off the walls and you will loose out on so many frequencies being heard..

So for this show I once again chose to be center lodge.
I happen to really like Lodge theater seating that typically is 15 to 20 rows
from the stage that have a porch view.
I'll take the fidelity and overall relaxed seating environment over front row center
with compromised fidelity.

Now the orchestra has center orchestra seats in several price ranges
and even if one is center in the lower price range that may start
just a little over the 15th row they can expect to have amazing sound in those seats.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:01 pm 
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chumcloud wrote:
NYC not happening. Wellmont in NJ is a one off gig. Nothing close to it

How do you get this information? It's hard to believe they would come all the way out to the east coast, bring all that equipment and go through all that hassel for one night in, of all places, New Jersey (not that there's anything wrong w/ NJ). But shit, so close to NY and no show??


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:22 am 
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The Wellmont is a great venue - a very old but restored theater. The balcony is permanent seating, where the orchestra is G/A open floor, or reserved seating (folding chairs). ZPZ is reserved seating, they do sell beer in the lobby, and they have no problem with you bringing beer inside to the seats (at least the last time I was there). Much smaller than The Beacon, with pretty good acoustics and a friendly staff. If you're on the fence about going, it's definately worth it IMHO. Just get there a bit early because parking is a bit tight, and you will probably park a few blocks away.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:24 pm 
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Just to give a little perspective.
This photo that was taken during the remodeling of the Wellmont
showing the LODGE overhanging the first Orchestra Section.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:32 pm 
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Stage Left view showing depth of lower orchestra.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:34 pm 
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Remodeling shot from front of LODGE

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Dateline 2008 - CONSTRUCTION
http://www.musicsnobbery.com/2008/09/in ... ening.html

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:08 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIY6DQSlbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hIIvF5gJI

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FalseDichotomy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIY6DQSlbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hIIvF5gJI

That was quite funny.
I quite realize it is never possible to get the exact sweet spot
as even when I thought I had the finest fidelity at a recent show
ZPZs sound man Glynn who was two feet away humorously noted to me
that he had the best location for that.

The main point here is that with Ticketmaster shows in metropolitan areas
where brokers have inside access it is really hard to get a great seat.
While a great seat is defined by the individual I think it is worth to take a little
investigative look ito a theater and the seating configuration

This particular venue sees to have undergone an impressive remodeling.
The main orchestra area is open or folding chairs and the lodge and balcony seating
is all permanent seats. Absolutely no need fro me to get all
Big Band Theory Sheldon about it.While I was unable to get front row lodge
exactly dead center being 7 feet off of that mark is OK and fine enough of an acoustic sweet
spot fro me. My expectations are another show of Zappa's music sounding as good as it ever has.

For those that appreciate this I hope my investigative work was useful for their ticketing needs.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:15 am 
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ATTN PSD

I just checked and in selecting 1 seat Lodge Center you can get
Seat 101 Row AA which is the first of three rows in the Lodge.
This is pretty much one of the best seats in the house.
I am unsure of any bucket effect and being too close to the overhang wall/rail
but surely the Lodge only having 3 rows pretty much eliminates fan heads
getting in the way of any given row. All seating is new from last years major renovation
with Lodge and Balcony Sections Permanent Theater Seating
and Orchestra Folding Chairs or Sanding Room where this show is configured for Orchestra Seating.

I purchased 4 tickets in Lodge Center Row B and would offer you 1 open ticket
in my group at face value if you like but that Row AA sure looks enticing.
The Lodge is about 13 Rows from the stage. This is not only the most comfortable seating
in the house but the sound in Lodge Center is one of the finest locations in the house.

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http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketP ... id=6598898



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:29 am 
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Trendmonger wrote:
ATTN PSD

I just checked and in selecting 1 seat Lodge Center you can get
Seat 101 Row AA which is the first of three rows in the Lodge.
This is pretty much one of the best seats in the house.
I am unsure of any bucket effect and being too close to the overhang wall/rail
but surely the Lodge only having 3 rows pretty much eliminates fan heads
getting in the way of any given row. All seating is new from last years major renovation
with Lodge and Balcony Sections Permanent Theater Seating
and Orchestra Folding Chairs or Sanding Room where this show is configured for Orchestra Seating.

I purchased 4 tickets in Lodge Center Row B and would offer you 1 open ticket
in my group at face value if you like but that Row AA sure looks enticing.
The Lodge is about 13 Rows from the stage. This is not only the most comfortable seating
in the house but the sound in Lodge Center is one of the finest locations in the house.

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http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketP ... id=6598898



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I also have been eyeing that 1 ticket in the loge, but am having a hard time justifying driving all the way down from northern CT to NJ for this. If the show was in NYC somewhere, then it would be a no brainer (what with access to MetroNorth and all that keeps driving to a minimum). A drive in and out of the bowels of Jersey (especially in the middle of the night, not arriving home til at least 3am) is just discouraging the hell out of me. Guess I'll just have to wait til next tour, should DZ decide to continue.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:33 am 
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Goddammit DZ, book the friggin Beacon already; it's still available on the 31st.


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