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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:02 pm 
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Wow. I'm shocked. I thought Trendy was just a useless ZFT apologist, but this is just sick. Reaching out for any reason to rationalize his desperate need to be seen as an Official ZFT Backer in all ways he has crossed the line of simply not being humane.
Although I had heard the story before, I had never seen the pictures and would have given Dale the benefit of the doubt, but not now. Sure, wait until all the info is in, but anyone with an ounce of emotion can't help but realize that these animals were TORTURED. And if Dale was the owner, she will have to own up, regardless of who was supposed to be caring for the animals or any other of the excuses Trendy made for her.
We eat alot of animals in this country. We eat pigs and cows and all sorts, but it is not seen as ok to starve them to death or let them cannibalize each other. As bad as the raising of animals for food is in this country, as near as I can tell they are at least put down with some level of concern for the animal. If one finds the level too low, we can certainly make our voices heard, ultimately, hopefully, leading to less suffering for the animals. People eat animals, but knowing that animals feel pain, we try to minimize their suffering to some degree and when it is found out that the treatment of animals is torture, efforts are made to correct this, not obfuscate the issue by comparing our humanity to the levels approved by others around the world. It is sad that Trendy uses the kindergarten mentality of others get away with it, so why pick on her?.
To compare what is in those pictures with Koreans eating dogs and cats is far beyond stupid. Its definately a willingness to let all horrible things go by without castigation for no other reason than the person in question is someone that FZ liked. There is no equity in the comparison of torture and fandom.
Its a sick mentality, worse that Trendy has kids and therefore creates a likelyhood that this demented outlook could be passed on in to the future. Trendy you are no longer simply a cheerleader. You are a cheerleader with brown lipstick, with eyes, ears and mind closed and a taste for blood. A willingness to cast an avoiding eye at suffering is tantamount to approval, however you may couch your horrible horrible words. I hate you more than I can express here and it really takes ALOT for me to hate anyone even a little.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:49 pm 
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dead cats of london
the deathless cat
my guitar wants dale to kill your cat
jazz discharge party cats
sam with the showing scalp cat top
do you like my new cat ¿
the idiot bastard cat
cat chain puller
the eric dolphy memorial barbecued cat
cat vindaloo

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:46 pm 
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As a final word on this the state of New Hampshire vs Dale Bozzio issue I had not seen all the photos
before making my comments and I do own up to 100% standing for what Missing Persons music stands for
but regardless of anyone's view and prejudgment based on how a newspaper article was published
and the lack of all evidence and defense statements on the matter I think it is fair to say
that this Missing Persons 30Th Anniversary Topic is not the place where
Animal Cruelty issues of the world will be resolved.

Not only did my defense start out in response to what these 30Th Anniversary performances are about but
some even felt the need to bring FZs Vault into the argument so who is using an excuse to pose their flag.
I feel every animal rights activist has the right to stand for what they believe
but little to nothing will get done parading around in a Zappa.com NG forum topic entitled
Missing Persons 30Th Anniversary.

For the people that really want to be activists against animal cruelty
show your true colors and get out there and make some noise where it will be heard.
Boycotts of Korea and China in some global sporting event will get your interest noticed here and globally
a whole lot more than these few forum posts on a matter of the state of New Hampshire vs Dale Bozio.
I do not mention Korea and China to totally derail attention from Dale Bozzio but the pure hundreds of millions of animals that
are killed in cruel and abusive ways in China and Korea for their food is where the really deep cruelty to animals lie.
Did anyone watch the videos I posted that is some real cruel stuff. Hundreds and millions of dogs and cats brutally
killed for food.

Once again I love animals. I donate annually to the WCS.
I let nature and the Zoos Keepers take care of em'

Fuck you and eat shit, you asshole. I am responding to YOUR comments on this thread. I couldn't care less if you declare "last word" or anything else, you torture apologist. If you don't like it, then you should have started a new topic for this stuff rather than make your own comments. But, you did make your own comments and now that it is OBVIOUS that you are being complete asshole, you try your favorite technic of OBFUSCATION so that this looks like a "Yay For Anything Officially FZ Related Thread" rather than what it has become: "Trendmonger Turns a Blind Eye to Torture Thread".
Don't even try to denigrate my level of sincerity by implying the use of boycotts that you yourself have no intention of backing. You are absolutely insincere. YOU remind me of those people on Animal Planet who look at the dehydrated animals and say "Oh, the water bowl must have tipped over. Well, he IS alive though, and is better off than some animals have it". Your concern for animals in other countries is a complete fabrication used to try to derail all the disgust that is pointed at you by multiple people. I am not just disagreeing with you as usual. I am completely shocked not just at the level of idiocy you maintain while pretending everyone else is insane, but your obvious lack of concern for tortured animals. I have met some awful people in my life, but you are the first who I have ever heard of who publicly advises people NOT to decry torture, animal or otherwise. You just don't get it (as usual). You STILL maintain the asshole concept that if torture can't be stopped everywhere, then its ok here. You fuck.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:17 am 
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Mental Health Issues, probably.
Very sad.
I find it hard to believe that an animal lover would wilfully negelct and abuse animals to that extent.

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I started to write a long tirade here about my shock and disgust, but I'll just edit it down to this:

FUCK.

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Jesus wept, those pictures are horrific. Trendmonger, your responses are frankly disgusting. Comparing hunting to those barbaric acts of cruelty? Trying to palm it off as "a mosquito bite on a herd of elephants"? Desperately trying to absolve Dale of blame due to some misguided Pavlovian ZFT teat-suckling response? Sickening. I'm astonished, to be honest. Not much has prompted me to post of late, but this has certainly done it. Fucking hell.

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We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.


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So by extending Trendy's logic, letting (for example) a few children die through neglect and ill-treatment is defensible, because in war-torn regions of the world, children are dying en-masse.

Fucking hell.

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Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:08 pm 
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To paraphrase Basil Fawlty:

"You should go on Mastermind. Name: Trendmonger. Specialist subject: the bleeding obvious".

We are all painfully aware of the cruelty this world is awash in, whether aimed at humans or animals. "Isolated issues", as you blandly put them, are still issues. The treatment of those cats in Dale's house was sickening and indefensible, regardless of how many cats die in the Far East for food. Cruelty is cruelty, wherever and whoever it is perpetrated by; to ignore this is also indefensible. And as usual, you cloud the matter by waffling on about "homeless deaths" and "illegal immigrants", which have the \sqrt{fuck all} to do with the discussion.

Fucking hell.

Edit to include trendy's newest quote:

"I am here to point out the massive problems in Animal Abuse that deserve big attention
before we turn a few Missing Persons 30Th Anniversy Show into a Animal Abuse & Zappa Vault agenda."

Yep, massive problems with (x) are the only ones worth thinking about. Those small-scale problems with (x)? Fuck 'em, they're just "isolated issues".

Let x=whatever you will, from theft to murder. Trendy Logic applies.

Fucking hell.

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Gary, you stopped being a real person a long time ago. You are a mindless, spineless lap dog, devoid of independent thought. You're a fucking disease. This absurdist thread takes the case though.

Please, go away.

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Anyone who owns 30 cats is not an animal lover. He or she most likely has a mental illness similar to hoarding inanimate objects, desperately trying to fill an emotional void.

And Devo was one of the most brilliant bands to come out of the late 70s. Missing Persons were clever, but Devo were genius.

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We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.


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By no means do I think thepoodlebites is a terrible hunter but lets face it some of the wild game hunting situation is extremely questionable.
Trendy.. I did not start this shit..She did by her actions..and someone posted this article before I made my comments right from the beginning of this thread..(look back asshole!) You know nothing about me..And what I do! What is so extremely questionable about what I do! I follow the laws..and enforce conservation. You trashed me by grouping me in with others...Fuck off! There are bad situations in every walk of life. I pointed out one of these situations. Dale is guilty of neglect.(She broke the law) Excuses for life styles and Itinerary are not excuses when it comes to the care of household pets. That's the problem here.. To many people own pets that should not..Just like some people do not deserve to drive or have children. Our laws are finally punishing people who neglect. You bring up shit that has nothing to do with what Dale did to those cats. Her responsibility does not cease just because she left the house. By the looks of the photo's this neglect had been going on for a long time.(Before the caretaker) Dale might be a good person..But that doesn't mean she should own pets. Laws don't let felons own guns...Convicted DUI's aren't allowed to drive...and so on. People break laws all the time..But when you are caught..You should be punished (Let the punishment fit the crime) I've stated this before..and I'll stand by this always. Your shallow mind has to bring in my life style and other circumstances that has nothing to do with this! Missing persons were a one hit wonder(maybe two)..nothing more! Dale should never be allowed to own a pet again.... Happy Anniversary!

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Trendmonger wrote:
If fans here want to pervert a topic for their agenda get ready for I am well rehearsed as any icing anointment utensil known to mankind.


By God, that is the truest statement that you have ever made. You are indeed a well-rehearsed utensil.

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Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.


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Look out! The typos are flying fast and furious!

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As a final word

so shut up already. and go away.

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Trendy...Go to the market and buy your chicken..your beef...your fish. I guess that's your sport..Let someone else do your killing for you. Doe's it taste better when someone else kills it for you? I provided for my family and friends. I am always thankful for letting me be a provider. I am no different than anybody else and I'm definitely not a hypocrite when it comes to putting food on my table. I'm not against anyone that follows the laws of conservation! Educate yourself about conservation..If it wasn't for hunters spending millions of taxable dollars..Conservation wouldn't exists! Wildlife has increased since conservation was implemented! Cabelas is doing nothing different than any local museum. Hey..I got a idea..Maybe if Dale wants top own some cats..she should stuff the one's she let die.. She won't have to feed them or clean the cat box... Purrrrfect!!

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We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.


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I keep tellin' ya'll.....fanaticism unbridled.

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I keep tellin' ya'll.....fanaticism unbridled.

it's scary.

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Trendy's "final words" reminds me of The Who's "final concerts".
They just keep happening.

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... Pick on the Chinese and Koreans for Christ sake...


...I'd much rather use the opportunity to talk of the Chinese and Koreans.

racism has no place on the official frank zappa messageboards

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