manichispanic wrote:
i went through the set list and wrote out what albums the songs came from, [/b]
This is where you show you had little to no framework for what the composer was about.
It is not merely a list of songs and albums. They are compositions and a set of arrangements
that Frank chiseled away at overtime. Your "Off The Top OF Your Head" Album diatribe is not only
missing and or mistaken of some compositions and what albums they were on but you really show no clue
as to the arrangements D(ZPZ) are performing.
For example ZPZs performance of "Dog Breath" as heard on YCFOSA Chicago #1 is not from the Uncle Meat Album.
"Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague" & "The Dog Breath Variations" that appear on Uncle Meat are different arrangements
than the "Dog Breathe" arrangement ZPZ are doing.
It's from the 1971 Live Arrangement as heard on Just Another Band From L.A.
and that band is referred to as FZs Vaudeville Band that toured from May 1970 to December 1971.
The compositions that ZPZ have performed from that tour blow away the officially released versions
of FZs Vaudeville Band. From FZs Vaudeville Band some of the arrangements ZPZ have done are
are "Billy The Mountain", "Call Any Vegetable", "Dog Breath" & "Wonderful Wino" and in each instance the
performances are of much higher ambient domains than the Official Releases of FZs bands performance.
Next year 2011 is the 40th Anniversary for Mothers Fillmore East -- June 1971. I can only imagine how good
an album side of those arrangements will sound. We have been waiting 40 years to hear just how good those arrangements
could sound. Bit outside of the touring arrangements their performances of Studio Chunga's Revenge Compositions such as
"Road Ladies" & "Tell Me You Love Me" shows how they dig into another sonic landscape with unexpected perfection from that basic period of time.
Another example is "You Didn't Try To Call Me" which is coming from Philly '76 and that arrangement is so different
than "Freak Out" or "Cruising With Ruben & The Jets" or "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol.1"
DZPZ performs arrangements that are taken from studio albums, live touring bands and hybrid arrangements
of many different bands. You are looking at set lists with a blank text format tool that gives little to no respect to the composer.
I have been listening to FZs music since 1967 and have attended hundreds of live Zappa concerts where I have learned the composers
work is more that a list of song titles that appear on albums where your "Dog Breath" error is prime example of hoe mistaken you re at times as to what the composer was chiseling away at.
The 60s Mothers were extremely limited in their performance skill sets. DZPZ is of higher ambient domains.
DZPZ are more in line with Ensemble Moderne on Rock & Roll Steroids. They have performed early Mothers
arrangements but more times than not you see where the basic arrangements the Mothers were doing lacked
the development FZs later bands in the 70s had. I have enjoyed some of the arrangements ZPZ have done
from any given era but to pigeon hole them from 1973 to 1977 is preposterous.
When DZ gets official releases out that bring the band up to date where you can hear all those songs that are on that list
you will hear a diverse set of arrangements from the composers canon. There is no way you can perform a critical analysis with your blank text views. When Austin 2007, ROXY, Return Of The Son Of & YCFOSA projects are out you will get a clearer picture of what they have done but it does not stop there. DZPZ continues to evolve beyond that. What was added in 2009 & 2010 is above those previous tours. DZPZ continues to evolve and you are even more so clueless of DZ guitar air sculptures and conducting aspects. Off the top of your head did not even know what album Treacherous Cretins & Yo' Mama came from.