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 Post subject: Re: 88 Vaulternative?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:08 am 
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Disco Boy wrote:
100% agreed. Phenomenal track...

i raise to 1000000% :P

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 Post subject: Re: 88 Vaulternative?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:13 am 
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I'm just curious, I'm sure we all agree the track is amazing, but do we all agree this is the most amazing thing that's been unearthed from the vaults (and in that, I don't count EIHN or CIV III, stuff Frank finished and planned on releasing) thus far? I'm still confused as to why this was never released in Frank's lifetime. Like super confused! I have to admit sometimes frank's obsession with editing often conflicts with my own personal musical interests and preferences. The Inca Roads solo from Helsinki versus the edit on One Size Fits All is a classic example.

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 Post subject: Re: 88 Vaulternative?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:45 am 
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its a 25 minutes track , maybe it was too long to put on a lp. But like i said Zappa archives are secret weapons, or a meal in a restaurent we use to eat the desert at the end :mrgreen:

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IMO he used the best bits in Lumpy Gravy. A lot of the rest is kinda dull studio-musician jamming IMO.

Still a true surprise and a welcome addition to the catalog.


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 Post subject: Re: 88 Vaulternative?
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pbuzby wrote:
IMO he used the best bits in Lumpy Gravy. A lot of the rest is kinda dull studio-musician jamming IMO.

Still a true surprise and a welcome addition to the catalog.



While in some respects I agree with that sentiment, I feel it is stunning in it's use of seemingly unrelated compositions smoothly segueing bettween jazz jams. As a whole, to me it's stunning and a fantastic context for those pieces.
Yes the jazz is somewhat subpar, but in context I love it.

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 Post subject: Re: 88 Vaulternative?
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its a 25 minutes track , maybe it was too long to put on a lp. But like i said Zappa archives are secret weapons, or a meal in a restaurent we use to eat the desert at the end :mrgreen:



Ha! I thought the exact same thing, but didn't dare speak a word in case the ghost of unnamed dark denizen still haunted these boards.... who wants that wrath hanging over them!

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 Post subject: Re: 88 Vaulternative?
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To get back to '88 - more '88 stuff in the official/"easily obtainable" arena would be a good thing.

But - damn this "full show" business! What we need is a very specialist 2 or 3 CD compilation, "not suitable for neophytes, not suitable for end-to-end listening" designed to allow the rest of us to catch up on a lot of what the reviewers on Pat Buzby's site were able to experience.

With the Packard geese, and Louisiana hookery and the uncut Murder By Numbers, one of the freer versions of Stolen Moments...and "ring of fire?! what does this mean, Ike?!" and "'til my sausage puffs up and turns red" ... and "keep it crispy" ...
and how about some megamix edits:-
(a) a PFAB megamix - like WYGTH but with the theme, this time preserving the important parts from Zurich, Binghampton, Stockholm, [fill in the blank with another v. special version]
(b) a Swifty megamix with the harmonica, tenor and guitar-duet solos from Genoa amongst other things (e.g "when the percussionist talks"...what did he say?)


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 Post subject: Re: 88 Vaulternative?
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FOWL wrote:
Just wondering if there is anyone else out there hoping for an 88 Vaulternative release.


Right now, i am hoping for ANY
Vaulternative Release...

Hammersmith Odeon seems already lightyears ago and seeing there still is no sign of the Bat Chain Puller album, i live by the motto of ''I believe it when i see it...''

Some of you might just call that pessimistic :wink:

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