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 Post subject: ZPZ Tour 2014: SETLISTS
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:30 pm 
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Filthy Habits
Penguin In Bondage
Pygmy Twylyte
Dummy Up
Village of the Sun
Echidna's Arf (Of You)
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
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Son of Orange County
More Trouble Every Day
Be-Bop Tango (Of the Old Jazzmen's Church) / Theme from Entertainment Tonight

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Teenage Wind
Teenage Prostitute
The Black Page #1
The Black Page #2 (incl. Them or Us)
I Come From Nowhere
Don't Eat the Yellow Snow
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:49 pm 
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Thanks for the setlist and the thread start.

It's interesting they opened with Filthy Habits.

Are you or garry going to provide a review or a summary? If so, I'd like to read it...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:05 pm 
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This was the 4th time seeing ZPZ, last time was the tour with Dream Theater, and they only played a shorter set. I expected it to be in the new Mac Hall, but it was in the old Ballroom. Looking around, there wasn't as many people as I thought there would have been, maybe 250.

I must say, I enjoyed the hell out of most of the songs, and my wife, who reluctantly came along, was at least entertained by all the old nerdy men and their ability to stand motionless for the entire show. Technically, I am always amazed at how precise they are at playing these complicated songs. DZ's solos were inspired by his Dad, but I never felt that they were trying to copy anything FZ would have done. The whole band was tight, and the Roxy set was fantastic.

My only complaints would be, and this might be because it was the start of the tour, the songs felt a little bit rigid at times, like they weren't completely comfortable playing them, and were trying to stick so very close to exactly how they sounded on record. I remember seeing a Zappa tribute show here in town years ago, and when they played "Illinois Enema Bandit", they kept all the same banter from the end of the song that was in the ZINY version. I always thought "well, they could have embellished it a little, made it their own". So when I see Ben putting all the same vocal inflections that Napoleon did on the Roxy recordings, I thought the same thing. I've never ever liked "Dummy Up", and I usually skip over it whenever I listen to R&E, so seeing it re-enacted on stage, didn't do anything for me. Maybe the rest of the audience was really into it (or really, really high, and trying not to freak out over the giant prop doobie), but for me, it was stupid. I realize they couldn't have done the whole R&E without it, but whatever.

Ben seems like he has a great voice, but most of the time, I felt like he was trying to do an impression of Napoleon, instead of just singing the songs in his own voice. Even "Teenage Wind", with Chris singing just like Bob Harris, was kind of annoying.

That said, I really appreciate them trying to play many different songs from the different Zappa eras. I know most of the older "medium to hardcore" fans didn't really like anything made past Joe's Garage, so to include songs from YAWYI and SATLTSADW is very refreshing. I love all eras of Zappa (except maybe the classical stuff), so I like that they are learning these different songs. I would have died to hear "Drowning Witch", but maybe someday.

So, very great show, loved The Black Page, loved the Price is Right theme song bit, loved the enthusiasm from the whole band. I would see them again if they came back to Calgary.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:09 pm 
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Just posting to agree that I always thought Dummy Up was pretty dumb. Frank was always critical of hippie culture but he seems to be embracing the " drop out" if not necessarily the "turn on" credo here. A lot of mixed messages from FZ if not outright hypocracies ran throughout his career.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:14 am 
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I also should add that at the soundcheck they played What's New in Baltimore?, Filthy Habits, Be Bop Tango and the Black Page and snippets of Finnish Tango and Gumbo Variations.

Dweezil had a difference of opinion with Kurt about whether a certain note was C# or F in Be Bop Tango. It was confirmed that it should be an F and Kurt said that he had been playing C# for an entire tour.

I have seen ZPZ four times also, the last time in Saskatoon in 2009 and I was much impressed with Dweezil's improved stage presence. When I saw ZPZ in 2006 he was pretty stiff and wooden. He seems more relaxed and comfortable now.

I don't have a problem with Dummy Up, it's part of the Roxy album. Dweezil's guitar playing was stellar throughout.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:11 am 
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No problem with Dummy. Just not a highlight of Roxy IMO. Great album though.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:20 am 
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Napoleons 'jive' talk is great, and absurdities like 'grab my hat, put it on my head' are timeless. I just don't really go with the diploma etc being worthless point.
I think its the same setlist as what I saw last year - most excellent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:22 pm 
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643 people in the room in Calgary (611 paid)
So the 200 people in the room thing is a bit off

Carry on....


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643 people in the room in Calgary (611 paid)
So the 200 people in the room thing is a bit off

Carry on....


Hey there Chumcloud any chance of ZPZ traveling downunder this year?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:12 pm 
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Thanks for the reviews/summaries, guys.

What about the merch that was sold? I'm aware of the R&E album cover shirt from the 2013 leg w/ dates on the back. So I'd assume the primary shirt that's now being sold is basically the same one, only w/ the 2014 leg dates on the back?

What about other shirts, accessories, etc? I need to know how much $$$ to bring for the Vancouver show on Wednesday night...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:36 pm 
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i don't think we'll be doing australia in '14. maybe early 2015


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chumcloud wrote:
i don't think we'll be doing australia in '14. maybe early 2015


Cheers, I'll be waiting


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chumcloud wrote:
i don't think we'll be doing australia in '14. maybe early 2015


Cheers, I'll be waiting

You gonna swim the channel from NZ to OZ then, eh? :lol:

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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
Gray_Ghost wrote:
chumcloud wrote:
i don't think we'll be doing australia in '14. maybe early 2015


Cheers, I'll be waiting

You gonna swim the channel from NZ to OZ then, eh? :lol:


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If thats what it takes KK, I'll be swimmin'

Now that's a dedicated ZappaFreak! :wink: 8)

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What about the merch that was sold? I'm aware of the R&E album cover shirt from the 2013 leg w/ dates on the back. So I'd assume the primary shirt that's now being sold is basically the same one, only w/ the 2014 leg dates on the back?


Yes, the Roxy shirt has the 2014 dates on the back. That's the one I bought but they had lots of other T-Shirts.

I picked up the Token CD for $15, about what the shipping alone from MusicToday would cost. The rest of the CD's were Bat Chain Puller, One Shot Deal, Understanding America and Road Tapes 2. I understand the last two but how come no Road Tapes 1, Finer Moments, Trout Mask Replica or any number of newer releases? Why no Dweezil CD's?

The DVD's available were the ZPZ DVD and The Torture Never Stops. There was also the 12" Help I'm a Rock / Brain Police vinyl single.

Not sure of the thought process behind this selection, maybe they have a stack of unsold One Shot Deal & Bat Chain Puller CD's that they need to unload.


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chumcloud wrote:
643 people in the room in Calgary (611 paid)


Thanks.

How about posting the stats for each and every show...? :wink:

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What about the merch that was sold? I'm aware of the R&E album cover shirt from the 2013 leg w/ dates on the back. So I'd assume the primary shirt that's now being sold is basically the same one, only w/ the 2014 leg dates on the back?


Yes, the Roxy shirt has the 2014 dates on the back. That's the one I bought but they had lots of other T-Shirts.

I picked up the Token CD for $15, about what the shipping alone from MusicToday would cost. The rest of the CD's were Bat Chain Puller, One Shot Deal, Understanding America and Road Tapes 2. I understand the last two but how come no Road Tapes 1, Finer Moments, Trout Mask Replica or any number of newer releases? Why no Dweezil CD's?

The DVD's available were the ZPZ DVD and The Torture Never Stops. There was also the 12" Help I'm a Rock / Brain Police vinyl single.


Thanks for the details.

TwentySmallCigars wrote:
Not sure of the thought process behind this selection, maybe they have a stack of unsold One Shot Deal & Bat Chain Puller CD's that they need to unload.


That's probably why...

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Disco Boy wrote:
Thanks for the reviews/summaries, guys.

What about the merch that was sold? I'm aware of the R&E album cover shirt from the 2013 leg w/ dates on the back. So I'd assume the primary shirt that's now being sold is basically the same one, only w/ the 2014 leg dates on the back?

What about other shirts, accessories, etc? I need to know how much $$$ to bring for the Vancouver show on Wednesday night...

Save your cash

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Save your cash

Save your money don't go to the show?

Didn't Pauline Butcher write that GZ had 3 business speeds. Slow, slower & stop?

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Does anybody have the set lists from Calgary and Victoria? Looking forward to tonight!


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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
OBDULA X wrote:
Save your cash

Save your money don't go to the show?

Didn't Pauline Butcher write that GZ had 3 business speeds. Slow, slower & stop?



LOL... :lol:


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What a shitty venue for the show last night in Victoria. Club 9 one 9 or as it was known before "The Forge". Guys made reference to being in a basement and dungeon. While funny, it was all to true. AND whats with the extreme lack of advertising for the show? Hell the marquee outside the club didn't even have the band up there till after noon, day of show.
Dweezil made fun of the fact they barley fit on stage.
Check into playing Alix Goolden Hall next time.

that being said THANKS for coming to the island. My 5th time to see the ZpZ show and I think by far the best yet. Very tight group.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:58 am 
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Does anybody have the set lists from Calgary and Victoria? Looking forward to tonight!


Did you just type this up without reading any of the other posts in the thread?


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Does anybody have the set lists from Calgary and Victoria? Looking forward to tonight!

Top of page. ^ :wink:

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I've posted the setlist for the Vancouver show here:
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/zappa-plays-zappa/2014/commodore-ballroom-vancouver-bc-canada-73c5ce41.html#sfmses53ebcbed

Fantastic set. Here are some highlights that I can remember:

- drunk/high 'squirrel' girl crashing the stage during the audience participation segment of be-bop tango. Dweezil let her up anyway and she started playing ben's tambourine and engaging in generally harmless antics. She was escorted off stage at the end of the segment.

- Montana!

- Got to meet Dweezil after the show which was unreal

Can't wait for them to come through town again!


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