Nappy-Headed Hoes

jimmie d killed the forum · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:00 pm

jaypfunk · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:16 pm

<------------- Picked option 2

jimmie d killed the forum · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:17 pm

jaypfunk wrote:

<------------- Picked option 2

Me, too.

Mr_Green_Genes · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:20 pm

I don't get comparing him to Hip-Hop artists...

Picked the ban him forever option... If he called my daughter a Hoe I'd want to kick his ass...

Some great cartoons jimmie, others not so much...

just plain doug · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:49 pm

I cast my vote before checking the current results. Surprised to find myself to be in the majority.
a] I've been called nasty, 'orrible names most of my life. I learned early to ignore comments I didn't like, without feeling I needed the world to validate me.
b] Everyone occasionally says something without thinking ahead about the results. That shouldn't fuck up your whole life.
c] I really don't see how calling anyone (black or whatever) a 'Ho (or whatever) means you want to string them up, or burn them on a cross. Some people like 'Ho's. Those comparisons to the KKK are totally out of line.

feetlightup · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:27 pm

I picked #1 because it was closest, but my actual opinion is a little different. See, he may or may not be an asshole (I don't listen to his show), and he may or may not have meant what he said (though I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt), but the bottom line is he should be punished in an appropriate manner. However, I don't think it's appropriate for one dickwad's racist comment to become the focus of a national backlash. I understand people were hurt, but blowing it out of proportion really just rubs salt in the wound. Those Rutgers players probably weren't even listening to the show at the time - it could have just been blown off and forgotten about like the glib bullshit it was. But now it's a national epidemic. Whose fault is that?

Milton Bradley · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:11 pm

What a bunch of media hype

It's a temporary bait & switch to get away from the Bush/Chaney debacle. I didn't cast a vote since there are bigger issues at hand.

Who gives a fuck if a multi-millionare loses a job when hundreds of thousands of people are being downsized, laid off, outsourced, and made obsolete in the labor market :roll:

Lumpy Gravy · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:04 pm

Milton Bradley wrote:

What a bunch of media hype

It's a temporary bait & switch to get away from the Bush/Chaney debacle. I didn't cast a vote since there are bigger issues at hand.

Who gives a fuck if a multi-millionare loses a job when hundreds of thousands of people are being downsized, laid off, outsourced, and made obsolete in the labor market :roll:

well said, milton!

SPACEBROTHER · **Joined:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm **Posts:** 4911

Lumpy Gravy wrote:

Milton Bradley wrote:

What a bunch of media hype

It's a temporary bait & switch to get away from the Bush/Chaney debacle. I didn't cast a vote since there are bigger issues at hand.

Who gives a fuck if a multi-millionare loses a job when hundreds of thousands of people are being downsized, laid off, outsourced, and made obsolete in the labor market :roll:

well said, milton!

Excellent point. Anything to distract from the stories that affect us all negatively instead of one group of people.

Raoul Duke · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:45 pm **Posts:** 754

as an australian i really have no idea who this guy is BUT i can see that one stupid comment by a radio dickwad can be really blown out of porportion, i see no harm in saying a sporting team are -insert derogitory name- but what exactly is the racist remark? the nappy head part? whats the problem? its not like his comment could incite racist thinking/acts, and isnt it better to just ignore an ignorant shite than to draw attention to him?

MentalTossFlycoon · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:08 pm

Nappy headed? You gotta be kidding...

Maybe he meant nakkin headed...

BBP · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:40 am

Nice pictures... Thanks Jimmie D, but what are they about?

Mr_Green_Genes · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:49 am

BBP wrote:

Nice pictures... Thanks Jimmie D, but what are they about?

http://www.zappa.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11641

jaypfunk · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:27 am

timm0 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:49 am

who's imus?? on 2nd thought,.. i don't care really.

brainpang · **Joined:** Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:33 am **Posts:** 3039

timm0 wrote:

who's imus?? on 2nd thought,.. i don't care really.

I never cared for Imus but there is a Zappa/Beefheart connection here.
Imus started out as a DJ in Palmdale and was hip to the birth of the MOI & CB&TMB. Once Imus declared on his show that a double bill of Beefheart & Zappa was the best concert he'd ever seen/heard. SO, with that in mind, it's absolutely ridiculous that he was canned. Thanks to a lot of rap music, we have become so saturated with this type of gutter talk that it's easy for one to make a slip. Al Sharpton is an ass.

jimmie d killed the forum · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:46 am

George W. Bush's over-reaction to 9-11 adversely changed the world.

Television network's over-reaction to Janet Jackson's Super Bowel tittie-flip adversely changed broadcasting.

The over-reaction to Don Imus quoting a line from a Spike Lee movie sends a chill down the spine of radio talk show hosts across the USA.

BillyDaMt · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:57 am

This says it way better than I could.
from John Mashek:

Quote:

Sharpton refuses to apologize for his role in the Tawana Brawley phony charge of rape some 20 years ago. He pointedly refused to apologize when reporters gave him the opportunity in the presidential race four years ago. Not exactly a profile in accountability by Sharpton, who demands it from others.

As for Jackson, his use of the word "Hymietown" in the 1988 campaign to describe New York City was a blunder. While he denies he is anti-Semitic, Jackson seems to have his share of troubles with Jews.

Sharpton and Jackson, civil rights activists as well as politicians, are always fast on the scene when there is a disturbance with African-Americans. They are in the forefront when the cameras are rolling.

Make no mistake; they have every right to be there. Both are highly articulate and usually effective in such circumstances. However, they are subject to criticism as well.

(you can find the full article here http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/mashekblog/archive/070411/yes_blame_imus_but_spare_me_sh.htm)

I hate hypocrites more than just about anything.

BBP · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:06 am

Mr_Green_Genes wrote:

BBP wrote:

Nice pictures... Thanks Jimmie D, but what are they about?

http://www.zappa.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11641

Thanks GG... I've seen the link... but unfortunately we have a data limit so I'm not watching any videos... we broke the limit too many times now...

Cranky_Viola · **Joined:** Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:44 pm **Posts:** 807

Who are these cartoonists pointing at an entertainer like his career was some racist cesspit? Moral guardians in their own lives, I'm sure. :roll:

"Those some nappy headed hos there, I'm gonna tell ya that now *hyuck hyuck*..."

First off, he meant that as a joke. Secondly, he's in a free country. Third, why should his bosses cater to people who were offended - why should they have to (*station lost advertisers, i get it*). Fourth, do people not have the balls to shrug something an old guy in front of a mic says? Cry me a river, Al Sharpton.

feetlightup · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:49 pm

BillyDaMt wrote:

This says it way better than I could.
from John Mashek:

Quote:

Sharpton refuses to apologize for his role in the Tawana Brawley phony charge of rape some 20 years ago. He pointedly refused to apologize when reporters gave him the opportunity in the presidential race four years ago. Not exactly a profile in accountability by Sharpton, who demands it from others.

As for Jackson, his use of the word "Hymietown" in the 1988 campaign to describe New York City was a blunder. While he denies he is anti-Semitic, Jackson seems to have his share of troubles with Jews.

Sharpton and Jackson, civil rights activists as well as politicians, are always fast on the scene when there is a disturbance with African-Americans. They are in the forefront when the cameras are rolling.

Make no mistake; they have every right to be there. Both are highly articulate and usually effective in such circumstances. However, they are subject to criticism as well.

Well put, John Mashek. As I said above, it's been blown out of proportion, and it seems that Sharpton and Jackson are largely responsible for turning it into a national issue. Keeping the problem of racism in the public eye is certainly a good thing (as it's still a huge problem), but in cases like these, there are two main things that bother me:

a) their pressure on the advertisers has given the station no choice but to fire Imus, if only for economic reasons. To the extent that Imus acted unprofessionally in his job (which I think he did, but who doesn't now and then?), his punishment should be a matter between him and his management, not the product of a public beheading. Fire him? Maybe - if he's a repeat offender of irresponsible behavior on the job. But it seems his management really in the end had no say in the matter. It was: fire him or lose all your advertising revenue. That's extortion.

b) I recently learned that Imus's comment was actually a quote from a Spike Lee movie?? That's not a racist comment anyway! That's a pop culture reference, dumbasses! Geez Louise....

FeralCats · **Joined:** Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:26 pm **Posts:** 2243

For me to be able to properly make any judgement, I'd have to hear how he said it, and in what context. And be familiar with him at least a little.

Mr_Green_Genes · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:26 pm

FeralCats wrote:

For me to be able to properly make any judgement, I'd have to hear how he said it, and in what context. And be familiar with him at least a little.

http://www.zappa.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11641

WaspManwMetalWings · **Joined:** Thu May 27, 2004 11:17 am **Posts:** 353

MSNBC can hire or fire anyone they want. Same with CBS radio. Got nothing to do with censorship.

If Imus truly has something to say, he can bellow it on a streetcorner. If it's entertaining enough, someone will pay to hear it. Otherwise, he's no different from any other yahoo on a streetcorner. He is not being censored, he is simply unemployed, temporarily.

I have no doubt that Faux News will hire him as a commentator.

Personally, I have never found him entertaining, informative or funny.

Lumpy Gravy · **Posted:** Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:59 pm

Cranky_Viola wrote:

Third, why should his bosses cater to people who were offended - why should they have to.

WaspManwMetalWings wrote:

MSNBC can hire or fire anyone they want. Same with CBS radio. Got nothing to do with censorship.

no, it has to do with sponsorship.

at first, Imus was suspended two weeks, but the sponsors of the show (american express a. o.) decided to pull out.
so, he got fired. does anyone still think it was because of what he said?
:roll:

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