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 Post subject: Simpsons!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:14 am 
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Hi there,

Matt Groening, creator of The Simpsons, is a longtime Zappa fan!!! :D

Is there any Simpsons episode in which Frank Zappa makes an appearence?
I read somewhere that he appears in one episode in Moe's Bar and Lisa asks him "Aren't you Frank Zappa?" But I can't find not one piece of information.
Anybody knows about this?

Thanks a lot! :wink:

P.D.: Which episode is it and in whic season does it appear? 8)

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Couldn't find reference to FZ being on the show but found this cool tribute to him by MG.

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Matt Groening The Simpsons Creator: "Frank is My Elvis" (Matt Groening)

Guitar Player Presents, 1992, p25-27
Postscript: Frank Zappa (Matt Groening)

v69n43 New Yorker Dec 20 1993, Cover and p114-117
Cover (cover flap over cover) says "Zappa: Appreciations by Václav Havel and Matt Groening".
A tribute to the late Frank Zappa by Matt Groening.


Frank Zappa, who died last week, at the age of fifty-two, became my hero in 1966, when I was twelve: I plucked his first LP, the Mothers of Invention's "Freak out" from a variety-store bin in my home town, Portland, Oregon. The album was snotty and disturbing, and its gleefully mocking rock and roll warmed my warped preteen heart. Zappa himself oozed with sarcasm, with that droopy mustache and wedgy little goatee, and the liner notes to "Freak Out!" began, "I was born in Baltimore, Maryland, December 21, 1940, amd grew up in California. I am a self-taught musician, composer, blah, blah, blah." I was hooked.

Zappa provided the soundtrack to the anitwar-demonstrating and cruising-for-burgers teenagehood of me and all my friends. Each new record - from "Asbolutely Free" (with its thrilling lyric "She's only thirteen and she knows how tp nasty") to "The Yellow Shark" - has been an event, to be savored on headphones over hundreds of listenings for inside jokes and secret messages. I'll never forget lying in the basement at 2 A.M., directly beneath Homer and Marge's bedroom, listening to "Sleeping in a Jar": "It's the middle of the night, and your mommy and daddy are sleeping...sleeping... sleeping in a jar...(The jar is under the bed)." It was quite spooky.

Two years ago, I met the whole Zappa clan: Zappa and his wife, Gail; their kids, Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet, and Diva; their pets, Doggus and a spiderlike Siamese cat called the Gweech. They are an affectionate and relaxed family, and all share the bemused, uncensored wit that was central to Frank's personality. By then, the sad news that he had prostrate cancer was quietly rumoured. Zappa could be forthright about his health when he wanted to be, but mostly he seemed to dwell on the things that truly absorbed him: his work and his family. A typical visit with Zappa might start with an extended listening session to assorted works in progress, followed by a look at a Dweezil-and-Ahmet rock video; it usually ended up with a pizza chowdown in the kitchen. Musicians dropped by to have their instruments sampled for Zappa's vast Synclavier sound library; neighbors popped in for Margaritas and conversation; and a steady stream of journalists pointed microphones at Frank and asked pesky questions. Zappa had none of the eager-to-please staginess of many celebrities, nor did he carry himself with the delusional arrogance of the rock-and-roll guitar hero. Recently, his remarks were characterized by a seriousness unusual even by his own cerebral standards. I'll always miss his challenging presence.

Few moments in my life have been as electrifying as an evening last spring when I sat in Zappa's dimly let basement in Laurel Canyon listening for the first time to "N-Light," a twenty-three-minute Synclavier masterpiece that he had been working on for something like five or ten years. (He couldn't remember when he'd begun it.) "N-Light" is a powerhouse of Zappaesque musical ideas, thrown off one after the other in a relentless, complex rush, which sounds at time like several robot orchestras gone beserk, yet always conveys a sense of over-all compositional control. On another night, in Zappa's studio, I watched him conduct the Ensemble Moderne, a contemporary-music group from Frankfurt, in an extended orchestral improvisation that featured the recitation of a letter to the editor of PFIQ, a fetishistic body-piercing magazine. All this went on while a didgeridoo - a long, tubelike instrument of the Aborigines - was blown into a coffepot full of water, yielding insane blorpy sounds that caused Frank to clap his hand over his mouth in order to keep from cracking up. I asked him afterward about the watery didgeridoo. He said, "It's one of my better ideas."

There has probably been more nonsense - both gushy and whiny - written about Zappa than about any other popular contemporary composer. This must be because the scope of Zappa's music is beyond most of his admirer's - and because his ungroovy impertinence always confirmed the worst suspicians of his dismissive critics. (He once said, "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read.") But Zappa's personality was only one aspect of his prodigious output. At the same time of his death, he had a number of albums in the can, including "Civilization: Phase III," which features "N-Light."

What kept me and so many oyther people percolating to Zappa's music for the past twenty-seven years was the thrill of hitching a ride with a critical mind that was always pushing into uncharted territories. Zappa's work was jammed with inspirations and insults; he subverted mood after mood with nimble editing, sudden halts, unexpected temp changes, and comic snorks. Often, when faced with a dilemna in my own work, I ask myself, What would Zappa do? It took zappa to think up - and execute - a fusion of deeply felt R.& B. with the rythmic and harmonic rigors of Igor Stravinsky and Edgard Varèse. Who but Zappa could dig both Muddy Waters and Anton Webern, both Howlin' Wolf and Conlon Nancarrow? His records and movies chart the progress of a funny and disgruntled composer tackling one musical problem after another - the ongoing education of a genious workaholic.

Lucky bastard...

FZ did appear in Ren & Stimpy as the voice of the Pope. Having been rescued by Powdered Toast Man he is told to 'Cling tenaciously to my buttocks!' to which the Pope responds inquiringly, 'Both of them?'.

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There is one doubtful case though...
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The Zappa-nuts at Springfield Nuclear Power Plant (http://www.snpp.com) have found other obscure references, such as the episode title "Bart the Mother". But the closest to Zap the Simpsons definitely get is a playing of Smoke On The Water, with Homer messing up the lyrics.

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 Post subject: Frank Zappa forever.
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Many thanks friends, for the informations. 8)

Zappa, and his music, are the best!

Greetings.

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I'm sad. They don't have google in Portugal.

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Frank offered to come down and 'mumble into the microphone' for Matt, but they never got anything together before he died.

Frank once voiced the Pope in the Ren & Stimpy episode "Powdered Toast Man", but did not appear on any other show.

I would have liked to see Frank do something with Ralph Bakshi, myself.

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Isaac wrote:
I would have liked to see Frank do something with Ralph Bakshi, myself.

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why? :mrgreen:

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And, more to the point, what? :P

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Sam I Am wrote:
And, more to the point, what? :P


I was summarizing the different ways such a discussion usually veers off into around here.

Also, Ralph Bakshi is a very music-oriented filmmaker, so I felt that if he had tried to do a project with Frank, they would have gotten along very well. Last I heard, Bakshi's actually trying to do a film about jazz music -- something from Hot Rats would probably work well if the later sections of the film focus on fusion, etc.

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The real connection between Zappa and Bakshi is that both of them worked outside of the mainstream areas of their forms of art (music, film) and said things that had to be said, in addition to innovating their forms with experimentation and satire. There's more than one connection between We're Only In It For The Money and Fritz the Cat.

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there is a sax gag where they play king kong

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Yeah, there's a thread somewhere hear where I said which one.

Too bad....the Simpsons could use some excitement nowadays.

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I am hoping Homer will sport the infamous FZ beard one day.


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I never really got into that show.... really. I seem to be the only one of my kind...


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I heard that sax intro and I don't think it is King Kong. It has a run that's somewhat similar but I don't think it's quite it.


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Eric Vaxxine wrote:
I am hoping Homer will sport the infamous FZ beard one day.


Matt once said that when Bart grows up, he will have Frank's imperial. 8)

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Isaac wrote:
Matt once said that when Bart grows up, he will have Frank's imperial. 8)

Since Bart is Matt, that makes sense...

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 Post subject: Re: Simpsons!
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zappendrix wrote:
I read somewhere that he appears in one episode in Moe's Bar and Lisa asks him "Aren't you Frank Zappa?" But I can't find not one piece of information.
Anybody knows about this?

Thanks a lot! :wink:

P.D.: Which episode is it and in whic season does it appear? 8)


i have seen every single episode & this never ever happened
i am 100% sure

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 Post subject: Re: Simpsons!
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On the latest episode (from 3/29/09) there is a church deacon-type character that speaks a whole lot like the Evil Prince.


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 Post subject: Re: Simpsons!
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all the chrispy detalis here:
http://zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php? ... 6413692940

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 Post subject: Re: Simpsons!
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consider this
the version of "america drinks & goes home "from jean luc ponty's king kong album is pretty similar in alot of ways to the opening theme from the simpsons ,especially right around 20 sec or so
http://www.last.fm/music/Jean-Luc+Ponty/_/America+Drinks+And+Goes+Home
what do you think?
the people at the simpsons board dont hear it but its all i can hear when i listen to this song
what do zappa fans think?

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 Post subject: Re: Simpsons!
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hodgy wrote:
On the latest episode (from 3/29/09) there is a church deacon-type character that speaks a whole lot like the Evil Prince.


sho' 'nuff, uh huh?
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 Post subject: Re: Simpsons!
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i definitely hear it in that JLP song.

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There's an episode of Futurama where Bender auditions to be on the robot soap opera All My Circuits. After the audition Calculon (the star of the show) says "That was so terrible I think you gave me cancer."

Frank Zappa said the exact same thing during the Yellow Shark rehearsals.

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Grimpoteuthis wrote:
i definitely hear it in that JLP song.


finally someone agrees with me.

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 Post subject: Re: Simpsons!
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hodgy has got it right i reckon.
the latest episode was on the other night.
i ran in from the other end of the house when i
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