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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:18 pm 
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I heard of this legendary album by Grand Funk called Good singin', good playin' which was produced by FZ and included a track with him on guitar. I am a Grand Funk fan as well as an FZ fan, but have never heard this album. I just ordered it online. From what I've read, it was Grand Funk's most critically acclaimed, yet least successful album, and it was conceived by Frank to get the original lineup back together after they had split in 1976, but when they were in final overdubbing of the album, they called it quits anyways. Rumor has it, Frank stayed up with them until 4 am trying to talk them out of splitting up. Anyways, I am intrigued to listen to this album. Has anyone else out there heard it?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:55 pm 
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two previous threads, there may be more...

grand funk railroad

grand funk railroad - good singin good playin, ur opinion??

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:46 pm 
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I am a FZ fan and also Grand Funk listener and I know the
Grand Funk album you refer to very well.
I play it often.

It has some well crafted songs, great vocals and
rhythm guitar sounds to be proud of.
Frank adds some solo guitar on 'Out To Get You'
and his influence on the track 'Rubberneck' is inimitable.

His (FZ) production of the album made this Grand Funk
album clean and precise, not a Grand Funk Railroad norm.
They truly were a rough and ready band and in some ways
I feel FZ produced them the way he did his own bands,
faultless.

FZ followers will appreciate the delivery, arrangements
and soundscape of the album, but Grand Funk fans will miss
the dirt that was Railroad was.

Personally, as a Zappa fan, I love the album he made.


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I have always enjoyed Grand Funk also and never new of this...I will have to give the album a spin. I had seen Grand funk live in the early 70's at the Long Beach Arena and we had seats next to the stage in the risers and lingered with the stage stormers after the show, Funk came back out and played few songs to about 300 people left behind from a stadium that held thousands, Mark first words upon return to the stage were "now we know who are real fans are".

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:13 am 
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Funny, I completely forgot that FZ produced an album by Grand Funk. It's always seemed like an unusual pairing to me.
I should avail myself to GSGP, considering I'm a Zappa fan and well as Grand Funk. Grand Funk's 2nd live release; Caught In The Act was in heavy rotation during my teenhood, and is still a fun listen once in a while. ..That album, and J. Geils' 'Blow Your Face Out', were arguable 2 of the best live party albums released in the 70s.

..I'm really dating myself here, aren't I?


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edison wrote:
.That album, and J. Geils' 'Blow Your Face Out', were arguable 2 of the best live party albums released in the 70s.


the live j geils album is pretty good. you can tell the singer is high on something. he's talking a mile a minute!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:47 pm 
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manichispanic wrote:
edison wrote:
.That album, and J. Geils' 'Blow Your Face Out', were arguable 2 of the best live party albums released in the 70s.


the live j geils album is pretty good. you can tell the singer is high on something. he's talking a mile a minute!


That would be the other Peter Wolf.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:25 am 
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manichispanic wrote:
edison wrote:
.That album, and J. Geils' 'Blow Your Face Out', were arguable 2 of the best live party albums released in the 70s.


the live j geils album is pretty good. you can tell the singer is high on something. he's talking a mile a minute!


It's hard to say, based on that alone. Peter Wolf spent his early years as a DJ, spinning records for a top hits Boston radio station before and early in his musical career. His fast-talking spewing of rhythm and rhyme leading into a song was part of his radio schtick, and pretty common on AM radio back then. He brought that to the stage like an old-time rock and roll stage review.
Wolf's radio DJ career was also what prompted him to adopted his moniker' "Woofer Goofer" (with the green teeth). Referenced in his rave into 'Must've Got Lost".



..then again, that's not to say that he wasn't coked out of his gourd while on stage (or on the air).

It was the rockin' 70s.

The J. Geils Band was one of those 'Man, you just had to be there' bands. They were notorious (legendary?) for being one of the most exciting and fun live acts in rock n roll. Peter Wolf was a madman on stage.


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Out to get you is an ass kicking song!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:41 am 
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edison wrote:
manichispanic wrote:
edison wrote:
.That album, and J. Geils' 'Blow Your Face Out', were arguable 2 of the best live party albums released in the 70s.




The J. Geils Band was one of those 'Man, you just had to be there' bands. They were notorious (legendary?) for being one of the most exciting and fun live acts in rock n roll. Peter Wolf was a madman on stage.




speaking of Geils

Its a motor city shakedown

http://www.onlineseats.com/j-geils-band-tickets/buy.asp

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I find it strange that a well known band like Grand Funk can have an album that their own fans haven't heard, but you're (rdzl) not the first to say that.
I haven't played it in about 20 years, but remember it as being a bit dull & boring, but each to his own.
Another odd one that John Lennon fans seem to have missed is the "Sometime in New York City" album with the Zappa/Mothers LP
It isn't as though Lennon or Grand Funk released a massive quantity of albums, yet these have always been overlooked.
My favourite album that had the Zappa connection is L. Shankar "Touch me there"
If you like Zappa stuff then this is a kind of commercial cross-over, yet retaining the Zappa influence.
Ruben & The Jets For Real is another good one, with the Zappa tracks standing out.
Lastly who could forget the Jeff Simmons "Lucille has messed my mind up" the title track being far superior to the later version on Joes Garage etc.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:10 pm 
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thekwaze wrote:
I find it strange that a well known band like Grand Funk can have an album that their own fans haven't heard, but you're (rdzl) not the first to say that.
I haven't played it in about 20 years, but remember it as being a bit dull & boring, but each to his own.

I competely agree with that! I also think that the so called precise production that FZ made out of it, actually was not the right way to produce a GFR-album. It kills the GFR-spirit.

thekwaze wrote:
My favourite album that had the Zappa connection is L. Shankar "Touch me there"
If you like Zappa stuff then this is a kind of commercial cross-over, yet retaining the Zappa influence.
Ruben & The Jets For Real is another good one, with the Zappa tracks standing out.

Again: I completely agree. Except that I do think that only the FZ-tracks are worthwhile on the R&J's album. Again: the production is a little bit too 'neat', too smooth.


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I would love to know what Frank thought he could do with
Grand funk when approached to produce them.

I recall that he requested them to bring all the gear they used
on the road, so he seemed to be keen to capture them gutsy and
sonically real.
But the recording studio offers very different opportunities.

I think if Zappa had been given Grand Funk 'live' recordings to overdub
and manipulate he might have created a bigger production.

You cannot fault the vocal prowess and guitar sound on
'Good Singin'.....' though.

He did a great job.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:29 pm 
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A UK '45. A plastic artifact with the words Frank Zappa still sends shivers up and down my back.

I recall there is a Photo of FZ playing the piano with his hair most archetypal, and Grand Funk around singing like they were practising Christmas carols. I cannot remember where it was published. Over to you slime

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zappa smirks at his not so meager triumph of convincing
grand funk that singing through an ashtray will add
exotic tonal effects while mel works up nerve to ask
frank permission to go to the bathroom

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had to have been from creem :mrgreen: there's also one with frank wearing a "crayola" knitted cap with gfr standing beside him....back atcha, slime :lol:

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Again: I completely agree. Except that I do think that only the FZ-tracks are worthwhile on the R&J's album. Again: the production is a little bit too 'neat', too smooth.[/quote]

I completely agree with that, but I was just being diplomatic about the other tracks, which, if you knew me is a joke in itself!
I'm glad I'm not alone in my observations.


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dove_grey wrote:
... there's also one with frank wearing a "crayola" knitted cap with gfr standing beside him...


this one ¿

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that's the one! thanks! :mrgreen:

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Wow and another :mrgreen:

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Wow and another :mrgreen:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GRAND-FUNK-RAILRO ... 2001r26879

This fellow has used the photograph I tookI took to sell his record.

The B-side is 1976, which is the reason why FZ is wearing that ridiculous hat.

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