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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:19 am 
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most peeps wouldn't get one tact of foot-tapping on a line without a string attached to their lame limbs. No lols :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:06 am 
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tokyo hillbilly wrote:
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Did Frank really say rating guitarists is a stupid hobby? That sure SOUNDS like something he would say but can someone please confirm which interview, book or whatever that came from?


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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:07 am 
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i_live_inside_a_drum wrote:
tokyo hillbilly wrote:
joonya77 wrote:
Did Frank really say rating guitarists is a stupid hobby? That sure SOUNDS like something he would say but can someone please confirm which interview, book or whatever that came from?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:46 pm 
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no problem :D well ive done my civic duty for the month


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Frank just never seemed to play anything boring to me. He always cultivated something completely different when it was time to blow. Add to that his background of how many different styles of music? Jesus he was amazing at putting something like a blues flavor over a jazz one - or some other combination of baddassness. I never seem to hear that with other players... or very few. He also mixed up his attack with tone and sound so much more than other players. Case in point - City of Tiny Lights on Buffalo... he starts with that apeshit heavy grumbly sound and smooths it out with such beauty bars later.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:38 am 
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Th8is is rate :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:08 pm 
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Hi,

If my name was "Frank Zappa" I would have drafted a statement from my lawyer to mail to those morons to remove me from the list.

Why would I want to be compared, or listed with so many guitar players that have no idea what music is? ... well, to be fair, they know a rock song or two ... wow ... big fucking deal!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:43 pm 
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Hi,

If my name was "Frank Zappa" I would have drafted a statement from my lawyer to mail to those morons to remove me from the list.

Why would I want to be compared, or listed with so many guitar players that have no idea what music is? ... well, to be fair, they know a rock song or two ... wow ... big fucking deal!
IF you a ass hole :mrgreen:

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Fuck all the top guitarist lists


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FUCK YOU TOO :smoke:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:19 pm 
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here's the interview, at 7:12 is the quote mentioned before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWXenHfehA
btw why a smurf? :smurf: is there conceptual continuity that im not aware of?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:38 pm 
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patacon wrote:
btw why a smurf? :smurf: is there conceptual continuity that im not aware of?

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ALSO: "SMURF" was the secret word, at the Sept. 16, 1984, Rotterdam, Holland concert.

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patacon wrote:
here's the interview, at 7:12 is the quote mentioned before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWXenHfehA
btw why a smurf? :smurf: is there conceptual continuity that im not aware of?
Yes so what i have the Picture disc LP when it came out 1991 the interview is from 84 though i not sure if i was released before 1991.
patacon you should have posted the other part of the interview where FZ rates Guitarists,Ho yes another thing The magazine(book) this thread is about was not Rate it was alphabetical order so go and have a think ABOUT it.

And the other part of the same article is going to be your thoughts on some of your contemporaries and your people, if you don't mind. People like Chuck Berry?

Frank Zappa:
Chuck Berry? Well, I used to like Chuck Berry when I was in High School. Songs like "Havana Mill" and "Wee Wee Hours" which were the flip sides of the hits that he had - the more bluesy things. His main innovation besides that duck walk choreography was the multiple string guitar solos - the lines were harmonizing because he was playing on two strings at once. There was another guitar player who used to do that named Jimmy Nolan who I had a lot of respect for.

Interviewer:
B.B King?

Frank Zappa:
I don't like B.B. I saw him on television before I went on this tour and he was still blue.

Interviewer:
Oh yeah, I've seen him recently and I thought he was amazing. Keith Richard?

Frank Zappa:
I don't know anything about Keith Richard.

Interviewer:
Jimi Hendrix?

Frank Zappa:
I knew Jimi and I think that the best thing you could say about Jimi was: there was a person who shouldn't use drugs.

Interviewer:
John McLaughlin?

Frank Zappa:
I met John. I think he's a great guitar player and I think that he's probably done a lot to educate American audiences to some aspects of Eastern music that they wouldn't have come into contact with before. We did a tour with McLaughlin and old Mahavishnu, we did 11 concerts with them.

Interviewer:
Lowell George?

Frank Zappa:
There's another guy who shouldn't use drugs.

Interviewer:
Eric Clapton?

Frank Zappa:
I know Eric, I haven't seen him in years and years. There's another guy who shouldn't use drugs.

Interviewer:
Jeff Beck?

Frank Zappa:
One of my favorite guitar players on the planet. From a melodic standpoint and just in terms of the conception of what he plays, he's fabulous. I like Jeff.

Interviewer:
Rory Gallagher?

Frank Zappa:
We worked 2 jobs with Rory Gallagher on this tour and, uh,......[long pause]... he's still playing the blues.

Interviewer:
Jimmy Page?

Frank Zappa:
I don't know anything about Jimmy Page.

Interviewer:
Peter Green?

Frank Zappa:
I don't know him either.

Interviewer:
Jerry Garcia?

Frank Zappa:
We did one concert with Garcia on this tour but we were the opening act and I didn't see any of his set.

Interviewer:
Pete Townshend?

Frank Zappa:
I've met Pete but I don't know what I can say about his guitar playing.

Interviewer:
Robert Fripp?

Frank Zappa:
I've never heard a Robert Fripp record.

Interviewer:
Ritchie Blackmore?

Frank Zappa:
I have met Ritchie too, and..... I'm not really familiar with the work of these people because you have to understand I'm not a pop consumer and I don't listen to a lot of these.

Interviewer:
[What do you listen to?]

Frank Zappa:
Well, what I do is I take cassettes with me on the road because sometimes you're sitting in the hotel room and you just want to listen to something, but what I take is not rock and roll. I like Chopin, I have Purcell, I have Webern, I have Varese, I have Bulgarian music. I don't listen to Rock and roll.

Interviewer:
Yes, um, Carlos Santana?

Frank Zappa:
We worked with Carlos Santana on Cologne in 1980 or 81 and it was a similar situation. We did two shows at the sport palace in Cologne. They opened the first show, we closed it. Then we opened the second show and they closed it so I never heard him play.

Interviewer:
As you said you don't listen to popular music so I don't expect you know Eddie Van Halen.

Frank Zappa:
I do know Eddie. He comes over to the house because he hangs out with my son.

Interviewer:
I see. But do you know him as a guitar player?

Frank Zappa:
Oh yeah. He and my son play together and he's fabulous, but there's another guy who shouldn't use drugs.

Interviewer:
I presume you don't know The Edge - from U2?

Frank Zappa:
The Edge?

Interviewer:
Yeah.

Frank Zappa:
No.

Interviewer:
[unintelligible] from Big Country?

Frank Zappa:
No.

Interviewer:
What would be your thoughts on the original guitar playing of the Mothers, i.e. yourself?

Frank Zappa:
Well, there's one other guy whose work I know who should be included in that list who I respect and that's Allan Holdsworth.

Interviewer:
I was going to ask you who was your favorite guitar player.

Frank Zappa:
Well, my original favorite guitar player was Johnny "Guitar" Watson, not from a technical standpoint but from listening to what his notes meant in the context in which they were played; and also Guitar Slim who was the first guitar player that I ever heard that had distortion - even during the 50s. In a strange way I think I probably derive more of my style from his approach to the guitar from the solos that I heard then.

Interviewer:
You still haven't told me your thoughts on yourself as a guitar player.

Frank Zappa:
Well, I do something very different on the guitar. I don't so much play the guitar as make up stuff... the notes that I play during the solo, I conceive it as a composition that's happening instantly at the time that it's... You know, you have 2 minutes to fill up or you have 9 minutes to fill up or whatever it is - a piece of time which is anywhere from 2 to 9 minutes long and you're gonna decorate it with notes - you're gonna make a composition in there.

The quality of that composition is determined by what you're physically capable of playing at that time, what the rhythm section will allow you to play and whether or not the keyboard player who's supplying the harmonic climate is going to mess up what you're playing by sticking in his favorite Jazz Chord right there. These are all the dangers a person faces when improvising a guitar solo.

There are some guitar players who will practice their guitar solos and they will always be perfect and they will be the same every night - I don't do that. When it's time to play, I don't know what I'm going to play until I start doing it; and then an idea will pop up and I'll just develop it in the same way I'd develop an idea on a piece paper except that I don't have to wait to hear it - I get to hear it as it's coming out.

Interviewer:
And the last question on this section is: What would be the future of guitar - or rather, how do you see the future of guitar in the increasingly synth and keyboard orientation to music?

Frank Zappa:
There will always be a market for people who want to hear guitars squealing and oinking and bending and twanging and making sounds like guitars are supposed to make. There is a market of people who are interested in fashion and they will begin hating all those other old guitar sounds in favor of guitar sounds which are not like guitar sounds but are played in guitar position but sound like synthesizers - there's a market for that, there are people who want to hear it - but I don't think that will be the ultimate future of the guitar.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:25 am 
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just plain doug wrote:
patacon wrote:
btw why a smurf? :smurf: is there conceptual continuity that im not aware of?

Playground Psychotics
"Going For The Money"

?: Smurf mee!
?: Smurf meee!
?: Metz
Jeff: Right Howard?
Howard: Right Jeff, we're going for the money, all the way!


ALSO: "SMURF" was the secret word, at the Sept. 16, 1984, Rotterdam, Holland concert.

well that's an obscure one, i guess it's just a random smilie

cleon i just posted the youtube interview cause i like it and knew where to find it, i'm not trying to ridicule you or anything, i have rated guitarrists before myself, it's fun... until someone thinks he's more right than you on something so subjective.

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patacon wrote:
just plain doug wrote:
patacon wrote:
btw why a smurf? :smurf: is there conceptual continuity that im not aware of?

Playground Psychotics
"Going For The Money"

?: Smurf mee!
?: Smurf meee!
?: Metz
Jeff: Right Howard?
Howard: Right Jeff, we're going for the money, all the way!


ALSO: "SMURF" was the secret word, at the Sept. 16, 1984, Rotterdam, Holland concert.

well that's an obscure one, i guess it's just a random smilie

cleon i just posted the youtube interview cause i like it and knew where to find it, i'm not trying to ridicule you or anything, i have rated guitarrists before myself, it's fun... until someone thinks he's more right than you on something so subjective.
Your A rater Wow :oops:

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He's in my top 10 for sure. But what flavor ice cream do you like? No such thing as "the best".


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He's in my top 10 for sure. But what flavor ice cream do you like? No such thing as "the best".
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