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Rite of Spring it was premiered on Thursday, May 29, 1913 at the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées in Paris and was conducted by Pierre Monteux under the Ballets Russes.

The premiere involved one of the most famous classical music riots in history.

I think thats why Frank thought France was hell.

what you guys think?

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I think the litany of crimes that the French are guilty of (that Frank describes in the song) are equally to blame...

There are musicologists who believe that the Sacre du Printemps riot was actually instigated by the organizer, who said: "Exactly what I wanted" afterwards. This is not a loony conspiracy, some of the events of the night really hint towards that.
In the field of dance, it's been suggested that it was not the music, but the revolutionary dancing that led to riots. In the Nijinski choreography (which was carefully reconstructed by Millicent Hudson, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjX3oAwv_Fs), legs of the dancers have the knees turned inward, any jumping is done with a loud thud. It is, as opposed to ballet, graceless.

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i really like this documentary

Keeping Score: Stravinsky's Rite of Spring parts 1 to 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7QgPgG4c-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhO_UitWjs8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXkbr97Qd0g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1EdSXlGwQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EaU7q3QOdI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9nKrHE-6eI

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So FZ had some bad experiences and has incorporated those into his idea of hell. I've been there three times and had a great time during each visit, my wife and I are even considering living there.

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.

Way back, in the late '60's, I spent a few years in Trinidad, W.I. There, the expression "like France" was (and likely still is) used as the equivalent to "like Hell". I found it amusing, but, after saying it at school once, quickly learned it's considered a serious swear phrase.

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My ancestry is in the South of France

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"drums are too noisy, 'n you've got no corners to hide in"

Hey i live here!
And i'm a member of this powerful group!
http://www.survivefrance.com/?xg_source=badge

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"You can fly like a Penguin when you're dealing with Turkeys."

I was in Paris once. Only asshole I met there was from New Jersey.

Well played, old chap.

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.

Hi,

I would think that there are good things and bad things ... anywhere ... everywhere ... and that Frank said that, we should not be taking that too seriously ... like he thought the Valley was any better than France, that faked an arrest and put him in jail? And later showed just as much corruption as many other places ... well, hell's bells ... it's been like that since at least Chinatown, wouldn't you think?

But it could have been an awkward situation if he asked for something and the owner of the venue said ... get fudged shlock ... how very French of them after all, that is! ...

But in the end ... Frank is remembered and those morons aren't ... so end of story ... we can talk about the good things now!

There's a lot of things to do to make France better.
But I wouldn't live anywhere else for now.

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i never been in France, but i know some french i met here in Québec and Montreal and they were nice. I dont like their tv shows but they have good news report.

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This song is only part of the historic feud between English and French, which Mr. Zappa indirectly inherited culturally...

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I've been to France many times, mainly Paris. Every time I go I try and speak the lingo.
I'm not fluent, but I do know a few words...
Every time there is a sizeable minority of Parisians who just look at me like I am some sort of cunt.

Oh well.

I was in London for the Rick Wakeman concerts at Hampton Court Palace (6 wives of Henry VIII) and the wonderful Brian Blessed was narrator. It didn't make the cut on the official DVD, but during the show(s) he made reference to this rivalry. It was hilarious to witness. Fortunately, I have the CD's from each concert to relive the moment.

You know Brian Blessed was the original Old Deuteronomy in Cats?

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Is it intrinsically bad, or just like any other place, rude people and nice people.

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Paris has a particular reputation.

No problems elsewhere.

No, no, no. Not only Paris. We are generally arrogant, undisciplined and grumpy.
Just try to ask for some tap water in a restaurant, in most cases the waiter will not bring it to you (or smile actually).
When French people are queueing, there are always other French people trying not to form a straight line and trying to pass in front of others, either blatantly or in stealth mode.
When changing lane on the highway, the others will usually accelerate wherever they are coming from.
And so on...
Paris is worse only because we are more motherfuckers here.

Oh and I forgot, try to find clean toilets in public areas. Big time.

No problem. I just piss in the street. And stand up to do ca-ca.

Well said

I go to France every year (my parents live there). The people there (north east of Toulouse) are friendly, the food excellent and the landscape beautiful. My kids dream of going to France all year. After a number of attempting to communicate in my pathetic French, I've suddenly discovered most of them can speak English, too. The farmer who lives in my parents' village is a lovely man who always wants a conversation, unfortunately in French, which I understand worse than I speak. On a family evening walk 'round the village, we once met him driving the cows home. We greeted him in a friendly manner and he replied in French. We carried on walking and attempted to reconstruct what he had said. After half an hour we worked out that he had said: "Aren't you afraid of the bull?"

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