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Came across this while doing a Google image search for Roy Estrada:

http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/tx- ... 09-0791529

You can search for him in the county's inmate search system here: https://ijis.tarrantcounty.com/inmatesearch/

Says he was jailed for "SEX ABUSE CHILD CONT-U/14"

That's sad. It has been reported previously on this forum somewhere that both Roy and Napolean Murphy Brock have past records of sexual misconduct.

This is just sad. I love Roy, but there's no excuse for that, if it's true - which I fear it might.

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And his offenses were made two weeks before the filming of Baby Snakes. It is hard for me to watch him running around with the Ms. Pinky Doll; especially when drowning it in a sink. Fucking sicko!

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This is roy's third time
Note the date:Booked by Tarrant County Sheriff's Office on Jun. 09, 2011 for Crimes Against Children.

Old thread viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17704&p=430222&hilit=Apparently+assaulted#p430222

I hope he gets strung up by his Bollocks neck be too good for him.

Edit HJ the first offence date was a day before The filming of Baby Snakes,and did another last concert Zappa (NYC, October 30-31; LA, December 31, 1977) guest vocals & gas mask.

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Well, it was fairly normal for guys to get young girls in the 60s. Too bad Roy didn't evolve with the times. If guilty he's gonna be locked up for a long time. And at his age now it is particularly gross and disturbing. What a dummy.

Wow, shocker.

The Ms. Pinky doll part has always been the bad thing about BS - now I know why

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Nasty nasty nasty...

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One of the most destructful crimes to commit.

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Starts to make what was being said in those long ago threads sound more reasonable and thought provoking now...

Very sad. Child sexual abuse is one of the few criminal behaviors that is never justified.

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Strike Three! You're out Roy! Like others have said, looking at Baby Snakes will never be quite as fun. That stuff with the doll always was a little creepy. Maybe one of Frank's blindspots. Maybe comparable to the Wild Man Fischer album cover as far as being tasteless.

Roy used to be one of my favorites of the early Mothers, but this just makes me ill and a bit sad. This is his third time, and who knows how many other sexual crimes he committed that went undetected? Frightening.

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Sex offenders are sick and utterly pathetic enough themselves, but there is a special place in Hell for those who target children. Absolutely disgusting. People like that should never get a second chance, let alone a third. A first offense should at the very least be a mandatory life sentence, or better yet, let 'em fry.

Ditto

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"That creep can roll, man."

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Yeah, he always seemed like a really cool guy to me, and I love his falsetto (his vocals in the Ruben version of "I'm Not Satisfied" gives me chills). It's really disappointing news.

And, yeah, that part in Baby Snakes always did make me a little uncomfortable.

serves him right. No mercy for him!

Is this story really true? I hope it is untrue but in a Zappa facebook group many people are discussing about this. Posts point to the following conclusion (this is a stupid conclusion in my opinion) and also that the supplemental photo could be the one of a different Roy Estrada, although the arrested Roy Estrada has the same birthday.
So, is there any new? The Roy Estrada that we all loved with the Mothers is really the child abuser that has been arrested 3 times?
Disgusting and extremely sad for every fan of the early Mothers.

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It seem as the first too arrests maybe had been "just arrests"this looks like a conviction for sure this time.It ain't no different roy neither i say looking as the guy ain't allowed in too Canada
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19263

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

Where there is smoke there is usually fire and where there are flames there is definitely fire. Roy is on fire.

gawd, what a bunch of babies. A rubber doll made me uncomfortable! Waaaaaaah!

You should get out more

I am not a lawyer and I am not a judge. If he is convicted, then he is guilty.

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If we're dumb . . .
Then God is dumb . . .
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