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Thank you, Nancy Grace.

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Plook, your speculation is way out of line. Just because he did something that upset Gail and at some time he's been charged as a sex offender, does not imply in any reasonable mathematical sense that the two can be put together. It could have been any number of things including perhaps the money claim of the original Mothers against FZ or something nasty Roy might have said to the press or whatever. There are all kinds of things people do to upset each other, it's a hell of a stretch to say that Gail was upset with Roy (very vague) and Roy's a sex offender, therefore the upset probably involved him doing something nasty to one of her kids.

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Gail wrote in the forum:

"Roy has his nerve complaining about FZ in interviews now and if I catch another example I will officially go on record for what he has never taken responsibility for and remind him that we did not report him to the police all those years ago. FAYPWAPIYH!"

So she would call the police because he complained about money or something he said to the press?

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I'm guessing that "FAYPWAPIYH" is an acronym for "fuck all you people with a pen in your hand".

It's not the Roy you should look at in that scene, it's the little toddler with blonde hair you can see at the start of that scene.
Oh, and it was 1971.
And Zappa was no hippie. Just like wearing black doesn't mean you're a goth.

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Yes, I know that little Moon is crawling around in that scene and we all know the Zappa household was unconventional. Are you saying that this was an example of Frank being a negligent or even abusive parent? I don't. It does bother me a bit to see the two groupie babysitters blowing cigarette smoke in Dweezil's face. Then again, it was 1971 and people didn't really make a big deal about second hand smoke in those days. I still don't see what any of this has to do with Roy.

There was a time when I idealized the Zappa household from afar because I had such conservative parents. Now, not so much.

I know, you have to remember what it was in response to.

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Sorry, (deleted). I guess we're just operating on different wavelengths and I'll leave it at that.

Please refrain from using my real name. And if you do, please spell it with a Y at the end.

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What the what...dude do you even know what your saying...man I know your smarter than that, maybe your just lacking street smarts...

That won't be a problem.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean!? roy didn't write the lyrics!
Are you saying frank was a pedo too??!

It means I'm not shocked. Nothing more. I wouldn't be shocked if Roy was innocent and was being set up, either. Please don't drag me back into this thread. It has become pathetic.

what album would that be?

However it looks, without confirmation, it is just an assumptive leap.


Rope Leash??

Huh? Wha...?

I think I posted on this thread somewhere.

Touchy subject, ain't it?

No, It's NOT a touchy subject, just drop it, okay?

Okay?

Geez.

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I'm creeped out myself...

I agree that narrows the field of choices but it's still a very wide open field. Just as KillUgly says about the Wild Man Fisher incident, if the thing with Roy involved their own children, I doubt they would have been in the slightest bit forgiving about it, but even there I'm just speculating without any real evidence.

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This is what scares me about the concept of having a jury of your peers.

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I agree I watch those 48 hours shows all the time and they convict people all the time with very little real evidence and I don't like that, maybe I am a little more sensitive when it comes to kids...I raised and helped raise so many I can't find any ground for understanding anyone who would hurt a child intentionally...I guess I am no better than the common idiot, because when I read he was twice convicted and was arrested a third time, then there is some prior bad act that was never exposed in his past...I'm jumping to conclusions....sorry.

I've just read that he got 25 years of prison, without a chance being released earlier... oh dear lord what a way to end a life

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And those helpless chidren, what a way to start a life...

Some of our defence dollars should go to study these monsters and maybe it'll lead to a way to stop this kind of behavior in the future.I feel sorry for the chimps that get tested for our health,maybe these triple convicted guys and gals*,could give them some respite?
As far as Estrada is concerned,short eye's don't last long in lock-up.

* That couple with Jaycee Dugard and any other women that enable this horrid activity. Sick! {-

Edit;Roy was my favorite Mother.I tryed to give him the benefit of the doubt and this is what he gives back? I mean,I feel violated for diggin' him now.Y'all dig it man? Nothing in comparison to the kids of course,but damn,it does hurt to find out I was backin' a loser and thats what he chose to be a sic mf! Shame shame shame,damn shame! El Bummo!

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