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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:20 pm 
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Plook wrote:
Very interesting...

Set your crapdetector off did it? It did mine. Pope Jim, are you and Mad Jack one and the same?

Cool lyrics cal. Wanna buy some acid Bob? :wink:

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Gary wrote on Apr 2, 2013 at 07:07 AM

Thanks for your contributions. Being that "Time Is Of Affliction", going back to this piece of music that Frank wrote when he was 18 gives an interesting point counterpoint to FZs entire body of work. While it's unfortunate that excavation of FZs two guitar version has yet to surface this work has a place that has a bit more expression than an Alpha and Omega view of his work.

FZs Big Note has so much more meaning than the simple side of the density of this 12 tone crab canon played against the statistical density of N-Lite. FZ himself never played it. After it was put in the synclavier upon hitting the play button FZ himself described it as "kind of short and boring". From one perspective it may kinda seem short and boring in comparison to N-Lite but as part of the whole of all his works it all fits in, where it was a theme that unfortunately was not represented as well as it could have.

Thanks not only for the performances but your efforts also play a part in fixing the huge brown clouds that time can place on the composer's work.

You can't make this shit up. What is it and what's it about? I have no idea of what he's trying to communicate here at all. Sounds like all his meaningless drivel, sorta like Gail speak, but nothing like FZ would say about anything, anytime or anywhere for any reason! Pure crap! That's his composers meaning. A big brown note? No. A big brown dooky? You nailed it! :roll:

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Homey don't play them games, Kapt. I'm the same cuddly, lovable prelate you knew at DZW. Mad Jack is a separate entity who lives in a galaxy far, far away. He speaks his own thoughts, not mine.


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Pope Jim wrote:
Homey don't play them games, Kapt. I'm the same cuddly, lovable prelate you knew at DZW. Mad Jack is a separate entity who lives in a galaxy far, far away. He speaks his own thoughts, not mine.

If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that...........and from the same neck of the woods too. Why did you say you're from Alabama then on DZW...PJ?

I wish I had Plook's crap detector. I feel a download coming on. :|

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Hey Kirk,
Pope Jim's profile always said he was from Eugene,OR & Mad Jack McMad is from Belfast Ireland.

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Hey Kirk,
Pope Jim's profile always said he was from Eugene,OR & Mad Jack McMad is from Belfast Ireland.

I thought when he first logged into DZW he had ALA. under his avatar. That's what started the wheels turning. That guy Bill from Ore. has many IPS addresses and is known as Apotheosis and Arch Obelar here. He even acted like he was Batchain 1001 by logging on as Batchain 100 1 and he goes back to Diezil Dummy in '07. He's Meglos on DZW and William too. I gotta feelin' and I'm hoping I'm wrong. Nobody likes to be played with, even unintentionally. But I'm tired of this clown login in as Little Sally and crap like that. I hope I'm wrong. :roll:

EDIT: send me your book. :idea:

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My book? It's on Amazon. Hubble by Jim Wilson. Sorry, no freebies.


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My book? It's on Amazon. Hubble by Jim Wilson. Sorry, no freebies.

I didn't mean it like that, of course I'll pay for it. How far up the Amazon is it? < straight line for ya PJ! Ha! 8)

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This probably ain't what you meant, but my book is currently 3,044,407th on Amazon's bestseller list. I'm so proud. It really is a good read. (I just reread it last week for about the 300th time.) Word of mouth advertising is no way to get rich, though. At least not yet.


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Things are slow over there at Trendmongrel Central. He must be on the low swing of his cycle. But fear not, Trend-groupies. He'll be sounding off about something again soon (hopefully not more sports) and we'll be on it like stink on shit.


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Hey Mr. Wilson! This thread sounds as if you miss the little shit. Is he your Dennis The Menace now? You hate him but you can't ignore him, kinda' thing? :mrgreen:

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Yeah, it's kinda like that. But he's always been a great source of entertainment to me. And you know what? I think he misses me, too.


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I think your right PJ. Now he's just talkin' to himself over there on DZW, posting/spewing forth all of his Zappa + Gail speak, uber knowledge to nobody. Without a nemesis, he's a real Nowhere Man.......noooo, shiiiiiit!

So ya, he misses you, in his sick and twisted way. :twisted:

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Not that I would wish it on anyone who doesn't want it, but I fully expected to read that the jackass had died. I'm not sure if I am disappointed or not.


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Pope Jim wrote:
Yeah, it's kinda like that. But he's always been a great source of entertainment to me. And you know what? I think he misses me, too.

Make know doubt about it, he's thrilled that someone has dedicated a thread to him. He loves the attention.


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http://www.dweezilzappaworld.com/groups/40

The latest wisdom drippings from the Great Circumlocutor, three paragraphs of fancy dancing like you'd see in the Bizarro World's version of Saturday Night Fever. Our dear Kapt. asks a relatively straightforward question about where he might procure a copy of the tape Napoleon Murphy Brock recorded that Frank heard and liked so much. I know I've seen it advertised somewhere in the last year, but I'll be damned if I can remember where; it never mattered that much to me. But Gary knows, he sounds like he has it, but he ain't telling. And so begin three long paragraphs of dancing around his non-answer, during which he castigates NMB for unspecified sins and pledges his undying loyalty to the holy ZFT and their Earthly mission.

To which the good Kapt. replies, "Huh?"

So Gary boils it down to three or four lines: "No!"

Don't believe me? Follow the link. Don't forget your hanky.


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Pope Jim wrote:
http://www.dweezilzappaworld.com/groups/40

The latest wisdom drippings from the Great Circumlocutor, three paragraphs of fancy dancing like you'd see in the Bizarro World's version of Saturday Night Fever. Our dear Kapt. asks a relatively straightforward question about where he might procure a copy of the tape Napoleon Murphy Brock recorded that Frank heard and liked so much. I know I've seen it advertised somewhere in the last year, but I'll be damned if I can remember where; it never mattered that much to me. But Gary knows, he sounds like he has it, but he ain't telling. And so begin three long paragraphs of dancing around his non-answer, during which he castigates NMB for unspecified sins and pledges his undying loyalty to the holy ZFT and their Earthly mission.

To which the good Kapt. replies, "Huh?"

So Gary boils it down to three or four lines: "No!"

Don't believe me? Follow the link. Don't forget your hanky.

I wonder if the Kapt. means this...

This CD was recorded on August 8th, 1973 Live at the Red Noodle Waikiki, Hawai.
The CD is available at www.cdbaby.com

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Pope Jim wrote:
http://www.dweezilzappaworld.com/groups/40

The latest wisdom drippings from the Great Circumlocutor, three paragraphs of fancy dancing like you'd see in the Bizarro World's version of Saturday Night Fever. Our dear Kapt. asks a relatively straightforward question about where he might procure a copy of the tape Napoleon Murphy Brock recorded that Frank heard and liked so much. I know I've seen it advertised somewhere in the last year, but I'll be damned if I can remember where; it never mattered that much to me. But Gary knows, he sounds like he has it, but he ain't telling. And so begin three long paragraphs of dancing around his non-answer, during which he castigates NMB for unspecified sins and pledges his undying loyalty to the holy ZFT and their Earthly mission.

To which the good Kapt. replies, "Huh?"

So Gary boils it down to three or four lines: "No!"

Don't believe me? Follow the link. Don't forget your hanky.

I wonder if the Kapt. means this...

This CD was recorded on August 8th, 1973 Live at the Red Noodle Waikiki, Hawai.
The CD is available at http://www.cdbaby.com


Yeah, that's the ticket, thanx manx, I've been looking for that link. It only seems fair to let the newbies and the others on DZW, have a listen to what FZ heard that made him hire NMB. No more no less. 8)

I just answered Gary with his own words and added the next line.
"Frank's music speaks for itself......"
The rest is opinion.

EDIT: The Mystery Man sent me a link to NMB, so I took it and posted it on DZW. Let the people make up there minds. That should bring a tear of joy to the popes eye! {-

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I think Gary should be on the UFO forums because Frank saw a real UFO once
He could explain the UFO phenomena from the Zappa perspective, and expound on the
'Big Note' theory as it pertains to ufology, unexplained phenomena and government sanctioned abductions


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You can check here as well Kirk. > http://www.gandsmusic.com/NMBrock.htm
Which is found here. > http://www.gandsmusic.com/Default.htm

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You can check here as well Kirk. > http://www.gandsmusic.com/NMBrock.htm
Which is found here. > http://www.gandsmusic.com/Default.htm

Thanx Trip. Has anyone seen or heard of all these Zappa cover bands? I recognize a few. 8)

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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
Trip wrote:
You can check here as well Kirk. > http://www.gandsmusic.com/NMBrock.htm
Which is found here. > http://www.gandsmusic.com/Default.htm

Thanx Trip. Has anyone seen or heard of all these Zappa cover bands? I recognize a few. 8)

The Ed Palermo Big Band is really good. Jazzy, big band arrangements.


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He's gone back and edited his post to include badmouthing Mark and Howard again. He thinks all alumni are lousy unless DZ and GZ likes them. I wonder if he knows that there are other musicians that can and do play Zappa's music and hit all the notes in all the right places. I don't think that's within' his comprehension or realm of possibilities in his mind. No Alumni are professional enough to play with DZpZ. Unless DZ sez they are.

Other musicians can play the maestro's music just as good as anyone. That's why Frank wrote it down, then recorded it. Whether there are eyebrows on it, is a matter of opinion. No amount of Gail-speak imitation can change that, IMHO.

KUIII, you turned me on to that CD on the way to the DZpZ show at south shore a few years back, thanx manx! I love Ed Palermo's big band! :D

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I agree Cap'n, it's a beautiful thing to hear musos with the right attitude play Frank's music live
The music is too important to be relegated to the constraints of a digital storage medium
I don't believe Franks music can be fully appreciated unless presented in a live context...it's too rich
Anyone trying to hinder or discourage musicians playing this music for any reason are IMO 'anti-music'


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Gary wrote on Apr 8, 2013 at 09:31 AM (found on the good Kapt.'s personal page):

Where you stated "They all play for the love of Frank and not for the money." that is a downright falsehood. One example is where I've been backstage where I have seen alumni get large sums of cash. I have seen the hand to hand transaction of money from the president of the school of rock to an alumni. It is not always about the love for FZs music. The so called non-professionals that played alongside the alumni. They paid tuition to a school whose president hired an alumni. Some of these kids that went to that school had a chance to visit the Zappa household before they got involved with playing with an alumni. These young musicians and their president get an opportunity few get and then they go out and hire an alumni that basically has zero credibility in the official realm. In that context I have no respect for a falsehood of playing for for the love of FZ. It was a pretty good payday for an alumni and the kids and president of the SOR downright lost any credibility for drowning themselves in that behaviour.


Where to begin? How about spelling? Lately Trendmuncher has decided that English spellings add a certain pizzazz to his literary efforts, for instance behaviour, generalise and humour. (There was also some god-awful spelling of manuever, but I can't remember how it went.) Guess what, Trendy. Spelling like this just makes you more pretentious. You are not English.

Then there's alumnus/alumni. Alumnus is singular, as in you saw a school of rock president hand money to an alumnus. Name some names, dude. Make it real. I saw a Martian hand a moon rock to a monkey once, too. Never mind that I was tripping out of my brain on mushrooms; I know what I saw. Sure wish I could've taken down some names, but I couldn't remember how to write at the moment. You say these rock school grads and their president got to visit the Zappa household. Were you there? And what were you doing in LA? Did the Zappas invite you to a family barbecue? If so, why haven't you told the world before now? I mean, we get to hear about your lame David Letterman appearance all the time, so why don't you tell us about your pilgrimage to the holy Mecca of Zappadom?

I could go on, but I'm bored already. Time for a porn break.

Oh, wait! The School of Rock was Dweezilla. The grads were your fellow students. (For those who didn't know, Trendy went to Dweezilla last summer. It was a strangely somber affair, compared to the first two. Big wet blanket somewhere, you think?) That means the President of this rock school was none other than the Dweeze himself! You watched Dweezil hand money to either Flo or Eddie, because, as instructors, I'm pretty sure they didn't do their instructorly thing for free. And then they gave less than a stellar performance, which was maybe their way of saying, "Hey, we got stiffed!" So they went through the motions and did it for the love of Frank and you have a hard time fitting this in with your god-like adoration of all things Zappa...thus the failure to name names.

As always, I welcome your rebuttal. Bring it on, Trendy!


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Pope Jim wrote:
Gary wrote... they go out and hire an alumni that basically has zero credibility in the official realm.


I'm guessing that this is another Trendy slam against Ike Willis, who played with the School of Rock kids in 2005.

Ike has his personal flaws, but as an alumnus he has 100% credibility with the fans. Long live the Alumni Quotient.

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