[quote author=dopplegangerjosh link=board=legends;num=1037350139;start=45#46 date=11/18/02 at 01:48:39]<br>Them! don't give in to the dark side![/quote]<br><br>What did I do? <br><br>I don't understand what josh is disagreeing with, because I have merely said,<br><br>"Zappa didn't know when the '88 tour began that he would lose money; he hoped to make money and keep the group together through the end of the last scheduled tour date and beyond."<br><br>Is that wrong? If so, how? <br> <br>"He was an entrepreneur; he was taking a financial risk; he put out his own capital in order to put his product before the public, and the hope was that he'd make money from the tour, which would hopefully be achieved through ticket sales."<br><br>Again, is that wrong? And if so, how? <br> <br>"Notice that ONLY after he broke up the band and the gig was up (ha!) did he pay everyone in full; until then, it was business as usual, selling tickets, playing shows and taking his cut of the gate."<br><br>Did this not happen? <br> <br>"Zappa didn't go on six-month-long tours because he loved music, although as MentalTossFlycoon has said, he undoubtedly enjoyed playing for his fans; he did it to make money, promote albums and record live material from which to cull performaces to be included on new records. He stated many times that he loved working on the Synclavier at least as much as he enjoyed working with live musicians, although each had its up/downside."<br><br>Now, maybe this is the sticking point with josh, but please note: I haven't said that Zappa didn't love music; I have merely agreed with MentalTossFlycoon's opinion, based on what I've read about Frank, that loving music wasn't his impetus to tour. I might be wrong about that, but if I am, does this opinion negate everything else I've posted so far? <br><br>josh disagrees with virtually everything I have said about Zappa. My answer, because he didn't address my post point-by-point, is "so what?"<br> <br>"Likewise, he didn't know when he began negotiating with the symphony orchestras mentioned in TRFZB that they would jack up their rates the way they did. He lost money, and he knew this particular orchestral project would lose money, but it wasn't his intention to lose as much as he did."<br><br>Is this incorrect? TRFZB indicates that the jacked up rates in Vienna and Amsterdam were a big problem for FZ, because he refused to pay them...and he had incurred a number of fees during negotiations that weren't recoupable. He knew he would lose money on this orchestral project, but he wasn't expecting to lose as much as he did, because in TRFZB, after detailing the specifics of the first "orchestral stupidity," he asks the question "Did I learn my lesson? No!"<br><br>Again, is this wrong?<br><br> <br>
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