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Just to let you know a few FACTS about freemasonary

First of all American Freemasonary is based upon English freemasonary and the constitution of the Grand Lodge of England. However a chap named 'Pike' (i think), re-wrote the constitution for American Freemasonary and caused alot of suspicion due to some of the symbolic things he used in the 'ritual.' However American Freemasonary does not come under the charter of English Freemasonary.

English Freemasonary: Freemasonary beliefs are mainly Brotherly Love, Relief and truth. Respecting and adhering to the laws of the land, respecting and helping the citizens of the land (this does include fellow masons and their families) This should sound like the american constitution as it's these parts that i believe both franklin and jefferson wanted including due to their masonic beliefs.
Masons also raise and give alot of money to charity. Each year masons raise millions of pounds for various charities.

I know for a fact we are not trying to take over the world! Go on the united grand lodge of england website and there is loads of info for non masons. Believe me, the info on this is the truth

The bilderbergers ... i don't know about this one. i think it's only common sense to realise that the most powerful people in the world are going to meet and discuss world situations to discuss benefits of their businesses/countries/income and to discuss possible downsides. It's good business. The only reason why we get pissed off is because we don't know about what goes on. My bosses have meetings to discuss their employees and have secrets... the most powerful people in the world will have meetings to discuss issues a 'little' bigger than this! I would actually be more worried if they weren't meeting cos it means there would be no dialogue between these people and they wouldn't have a clue what other people think about these! E.g. I don't think the chief executive would really give a shit about what i think about the price of petrol. But i think he would respect the views of the people that go to the bilderberger meetings.

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"...with your bleedin' masonic handshakes. You wouldn't have me would you? You black-balling bastards!" John Cleese, Architects Sketch

I've never been a "joiner" - otherwise I coulda been the Grand Wazoo!

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And your point is ...

Somebody puts some honest things on here and thats the response.

Oh dear ...

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What were you looking for, an argument? Thought a little Python might lighten the mood. Or is this being hit on the head lessons?

I was invited to join the masons and I declined. I was not invited to join Bilderberg, but running the world might be fun.

People acting in groups often do things they would not do as individuals. Some not good. Does that make my point any clearer?

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I think it's pretty straightforward, what you do as an individual you are directly responsible and accountable for, however, if you're in a group that direct responsibility is removed from you. So you would do some things in a group that you would never do on your own. I think that's what FC's taling about here, correct me if I'm wrong by all means.

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Some people i've spoken to qualify the free-masons as a sect. If that were so it's the most stupid sect in history.

-difficult to get into
-simple as hell to get out of

It's really not as mysterious as many make it out to be...

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Groupthink is a risk. Sometime the same group doing good can do stuff that's very bad. Muslim extremists maintain their following in part by making charitable donations to the poor. Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition or extraordinary rendition - very questionable deeds by groups purporting to do good. Join or follow if you like. Don't waste time worrying about secret societies. Keep your eyes and ears open, have a sense of humor and think for yourself. End of book report...

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The Golden Dawn
The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was the most influential occult group to emerge from the end of the nineteenth century occult revival. The main achievement of the group, and of its more influential individuals, was to create a working system of magic, bonded from the various separate strands of tradition in existence at the time.

The group was founded in the year 1888 by William Wynn Westcott (1848-1925), a doctor, and a master mason, William Robert Woodman, also a doctor and a mason, and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers (1854-1918), who was also a mason.

The order claimed its pedigree from coded documents in Dr Wynn Westcott's possession; these claimed the group was a branch of a German Rosicrucian Order. They outlined five Masonic rituals, which were expanded upon by Mathers. It is highly likely that these papers were forged by Westcott, and it was this accusation that later led to the break up of the order.

The prime mover of the Golden Dawn turned out to be Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers. He was responsible in main for the cohesion the Golden Dawns structure, rituals, and whole system of magic. Mathers, who was also a mason, was a flamboyant character with a romantic leaning to all things Celtic. He changed his name to incorporate the MacGregor, and claimed descendance from the Scottish Clan. It was his confidence and charm that lead to the orders great popularity among society at that time.

Like many other members of the Golden Dawn, he had a passion for reworking and translating some of the Medieval Grimoires, and a great deal of his time was spent researching in the British Library. Mathers wrote much of the Golden Dawn's material, he drew on information gleaned from his long researches into old magical texts. He used Eliphas Levi's system of magic, along with Egyptian magic, Graeco-Egyptian magic, and Jewish magic, fused with ideas from medieval grimoires, the Tarot and Eastern mysticism. Dee's strange Enochain language was also incorporated in places. This mass of varied material allowed them to say that their tradition stretched all the way back through the ages to Egypt, land of magic and mystery. The fact that Mathers managed to fuse all of this material into a working coherent system is his great legacy.

The hierarchical structure of the Golden Dawn was divided into ten degrees, based on the ten degrees of the Sephiroth from the Qabalah (Kabbalah). Members passed through each of the levels by sitting exams and partaking in theatrical ritual. The rituals took place in specially designed temples named after the Egyptian gods.

The main emphasis and motive of passing through the degrees was to develop the personality through the higher self, and achieve god like status by identifying with universal energies and archetypes.

These energies were seen as already present within the human psyche, they just needed to be brought to the surface and controlled with the force of the will and imagination.

As with many occult groups, the leading members, Mathers in particular, claimed that they were in contact with a secret order of higher intelligences or Magi. These beings guided the working material and controlled how the order developed. The secret order were unapproachable, which was a useful barrier to detractors.

The Golden Dawn had some very influential people within its ranks. W. B. Yeats, Aleister Crowley, Constance Wilde, Algernon Blackwood, Arthur Machen, A. E. Waite, Annie Horniman, Florence Farr, Gerald Kelly and Maude Gonne were all members. There was also a rumour that Wallace Budge, who was in charge of Egyptology at the British Museum, was also involved, although this has never been verified.

By the year 1900 the inflated egos of many of the group members had caused arguments, and created schisms within the group. Aleister Crowley (who joined in 1898) had a major part in this. He was not well liked, but he sided with Mathers (although they were later to have a magical battle of their own), Mathers accused Wynn Wescott of faking the Rosicrucian documents on which the Golden Dawn was founded. It seems now that the allegation was probably true, but this undermining of the orders foundations did not go down well, and Mathers was expelled.

Mathers left England for Paris with his wife Moina in 1892. While in Paris he founded a splinter group of the Golden Dawn, but the order was never as powerful as it had been in Britain. Mathers died in Paris in 1918.

William Butler Yeats, the Irish poet (who joined in 1890 from the Theosophical Society) took over the Golden Dawn Core group after Mather's departure, but it was A. E. Waite, gaining control in 1903 who took the order down a different path. He changed the name to The Holy Order of the Golden Dawn, and pushed the order towards more Christian leanings. He finally closed the Order down around 1914 because of apathy, and dwindling membership.

By the time the core of the Golden Dawn had fizzled out there were temples as far apart as Bradford and Paris. There were also groups in Weston Super Mare, Edinburgh and Chicago. Many occult groups now claim descent from the Golden Dawn, and its advancement of the Western Mystery Tradition cannot be underestimated.

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Leo Zagami
By Greg Szymanski
ArcticBeacon.com
10-25-6

Leo Zagami, successor to high-level Italian Illuminati figure and
former Reagan unofficial Vatican advisor, Licio Gelli, switches sides
from evil to good and is warning Americans about coming fascism.

Very rarely does a high-level Illuminati 33 degree Freemason come
forward with inside information, damaging to the Vatican-controlled and
Jesuit-led New World Order.

But Leo Zagami, a Sicilian aristocrat and former high-member of the
Monte Carlo P2 Lodge, is doing just that, coming forward for the simple
reason he could no longer work under the forces of evil who are killing
millions around the world.

The following message from Zagami, who just left the clutches of the
evil Illuminati in June, is printed to show just how high-up in the
Illuminati pecking order his black star had risen.

It is also printed to protect Zagami's life as he was already arrested,
beaten and tortured twice since going public with a web site geared at
enlightening America to the threat the Vatican-led Illuminati poses to
the American people.

In fact, Zagami's information comes from the top of the Illuminati
secret files and correspondence since he was even considered in his
home country of Italy to be the P2 Masonic successor to the powerful
Licio Gelli, who was being slowly moved out of Illuminati active duty
because of his age.

Zagami only weeks ago went public with his English language web site
and last week made his first public appearance on American radio,
appearing on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal.

Zagami is scheduled to make a second appearance next week, as his top
level information has helped to connect the dots between the Vatican,
the Jesuits, Freemasonry and their control over the U.S government.

Here is his most recent words and it is easy to see why the higher-ups
in the Illuminati are listening to his every word and watching his
every move very closely:

Remember, my dear friend, I was not your ordinary Freemason but a
Senior P2 Illuminati in charge of many hidden operations and the
supposed successor of illustrious Bro. Licio Gelli. We have to be very
careful and then we can free Rome, Sicily and the rest of the world
from all this evil Mind Control satanic network of perverts and black
magicians.

The United States was founded by Freemasons who had a dream of
independence, freedom, and truth, so lets see if we can bring them to
realize their actual slavery from the evil Illuminati Jesuit game and
change their path towards God not Satanism.

Father Sebott and others are working against honest Freemasons all over
the world so lets do it before is to late and I'm sure we can save a
few souls. The deal between the Jesuit and the Freemasons of the Grande
Oriente d'Italia (that include P2) was madeofficially in the Parioli
district of Rome at "La Casa del dialogo" in 1975 with Padre Caprile
and the Italian Grand Master. Present to this event most P2 members and
400 High degree Masons. Brother Maurizio Costanzo known pervert and
important manipulator of the Illuminati was there. Costanzo is now in
charge of Berlusconi's P2 TV brainwashing programs for the new
generations of Italian chickens.

My wife recently had a dream last May and after that nothing was the
same for me (dreams are very important for Sufi's) God told her that
Giorgio Hugo Balestrieri was working with the Anti-Christ himself and I
had to stop being a GLADIO P2 Illuminati puppet, because this people
will never change even if I took control of the Order and tried to make
them understand the true work of the God and the real Illuminati...you
will discover I'm a big idealist and I really am trying to save the
souls of people over and over again...that's what a genuine man of God
does to a fellow Brother in need even at the highest levels of the
corrupted Empire of Satan every soul counts.

So let's unveil the truth and help humanity being less hypocritical.
Let's just tell them we are who the real Puppet Masters are in detail
and how it works by fighting the Legion of Satan head on.

Everybody in the Italian Masonic circles knows I was the supposed
successor of Gelli and the right hand of Ezio Giunchiglia for a long
time in the Monte Carlo Lodge and the Universal Unity. So this
revelation will be not big news for most High Degree Masons in Italy
and making it public is no problem.

I also worked with Ezio on the new (Scottish) Rite and we followed
after the 33rd
Degree. Brother Ezio use to cal it the Rinnovato Rito Scozzese (5 extra
degrees made to manipulate the Monte Carlo elite even further) and this
was made within the inner circle of the Ordo Illuminatorum Universalis.

I was responsible for the revision of the 38th
degree called Knight of St. John of the Apocalypse and what is known as
the Supreme Council of Transformation, leading to the knowledge of the
true Invisible Masters of the 39th degree and last degree of the Monte
Carlo illuminati system known as THE INVISIBLE MASTERS.

These invisible Masters were chosen only in the high level religious
and aristocratic circles and contact with them was forbidden bellow the
38 degree. Why? Because there were real Illuminati and genuine Masters
chosen by the dark Illuminati to keep their pyramid credible in the
light of suspicions, as a nice front for the show. But also many fake
and evil ones like the Jesuits or Archbishop Paul Marcinkus that were
the real driving force of the Monte Carlo Lodge and GLADIO...the good
side of the INVISIBLE MASTERS were not even aware of their membership
in such Lodge and all this evil show for a long time until I arrived
and saw what was happening.

At that point I decided to punish Satan and his friends for this
terrible sin of deception with the help of God...let's see if we can
really change things now and bring some light in all this darkness and
ignorance but is definitely a risky affair since the Board of
Directors and the Illuminati. Marcinkus was called by Ezio the keeper
of the Vatican Safe keys...he always use to say "our illustrious
Brother of the safe"...

P2 is the Vatican and the Vatican is the real mind of GLADIO and I'm
probably a dead man as my wife is saying in the last few days but I
don't care and will go on. I tell her this is for the good of humanity
but she says I'm really risking to much this time.

Zagami continued with more details about the higher-levels of
Freemasonry, including more details about the influential Monte Carlo
Lodge:

I said 5 extra degrees and not 6 because the "Invisible Masters" were
never really meeting for any ritual work in any Lodge, so no proper
ritual was ever created or devised for them as they were just given
this position by the Supreme Council of Transformation (another great
invention of the Monte Carlo Illuminati) to cover up in reality the
dirty work of the usual "not so Invisible Masters" from the Jesuit
Order and the Zionist Empire...

P2 and GLADIO were very clever in doing this for manipulating the
lower structure of their P2 slaves, playing this never ending
illuminati game of Gelli and Giunchiglia the two Puppet Masters of the
P2 (Worshipful Master and Treasurer).

The so called Supreme Council of Transformation (Apocalypse means
Transformation by the way...) will say or publish for the rest of the
Brethern the following "we have been giving this honorary degree and we
visited personally such and such great and illustrious Brother to
recognize each other as real Illuminati" In reality the situation was
quite different and the only real Invisible Masters I ever saw around
there at top level meetings were all dangerous mafiosi and crooks of
the Vatican, including: Knights of Malta, Jesuits and Opus Dei...

But this was obviously not the official version for our Illuminati
followers of the P2 in lower levels, participants of this never ending
sick show of fake Illuminati myths created by Licio Gelli and Ezio
Giunchiglia. At one time they even came up with a false war with each
other to deceive people even more.

Ezio to get the attention off the important business of the Monte Carlo
Lodge under investigation spread the rumor outside P2 that at the end
of the 70's he had broke a chair in the head of our Worshipful Master
Licio Gelli...

Really creative people these Puppet Masters and is actually quite fun
to see all the sheep under believing every bit of it , poor world of
idiots without a God, poor Satanist.

The elite of the Monte Carlo Lodge members the Board of Directors if
you prefer, meet in a very discreet and secret room given by a very
prestigious Hotel in the center of Monte Carlo, and the entrance is
located and the end of the entrance hall on you left where you can
notice some stairs going up to this particular room. But don't try
going upstairs because you might get in serious trouble with the
security if you are up for a stunt. This is not a Bohemian Grove
American illuminati theatrical affair for political chickens with a
couple of perverts of the New World Order to eventually blackmail
later. This is always a proper high level meeting of true P2, Don's
doing business with USA intelligence, Cosa Nostra, Vatican
Jesuits...and more...

So I warn you in advance for you own safety don't go in search of the
Holy Grail in Monte Carlo if you want to stay alive, because business
is business for these people and if you interfere with the Mob you
want stay alive as you all know...

All other meetings of the Monte Carlo Lodge structure go under the name
UNIVERSAL UNITY www.universal-unity.net and they are only made in
Monasteries around Italy and France (very handy for a quick confession
with a Jesuit friend of your choice) were the recruiting process starts
...go to the Monastery and join the P2!

The last meeting of the Monte Carlo board of Directors I went to was on
the 1st of June 2006 and the last Universal Unity Gathering I went to
the meeting in the Monastery of San Cerbone (near Lucca).

The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, The Rectified Scottish Rite,
The illuminati Rite of Memphis and Misraim and various other rituals
and Rite's of Freemasonry under direct P2/Jesuit control are
practiced elsewhere around Italy and France under various Masonic
Obedience (apparently all in war with each other...the usual show) but
that's all part
of the Masonic Theatre not the real thing that's called UNIVERSAL UNITY
and the MONTE CARLO LODGE.

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http://www.rense.com/general74/former.htm

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I've read up on Leo Zagami, and spent a bunch of time on his massive blog back when it existed. I still don't know what to think of the guy and his claims. He did have all sorts of pictures with him and some pretty powerful people, and he does look like a straight up satanist!!!

In my research, the most impressive connect the dots all inclusive history of seceret societies and their connections going back to the mystery schools of Babylon is definately William Cooper's Mystery Babylon radio series. You can download the whole thing here http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/audi ... abylon.htm
It's a pretty time intensive study, but episode by episode, if you start I think you'll get sucked in pretty quickly!

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FOWL wrote:
I've read up on Leo Zagami, and spent a bunch of time on his massive blog back when it existed. I still don't know what to think of the guy and his claims. He did have all sorts of pictures with him and some pretty powerful people, and he does look like a straight up satanist!!!

In my research, the most impressive connect the dots all inclusive history of seceret societies and their connections going back to the mystery schools of Babylon is definately William Cooper's Mystery Babylon radio series. You can download the whole thing here http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/audi ... abylon.htm
although I just noticed that link isn't working. And I had one more episode to download! Damn! Check it out though, it might just be a momentary down. It's a pretty time intensive study, but episode by episode, if you start I think you'll get sucked in pretty quickly!


cool appreciate it but my thoughts can go in only so many directions...self-serving rothschild london-bankers & company {having many factions or split into two,european & american} can have their respective world fuck-up picnics & toasts & laughs & murders..SAY WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE? -maybe Gustav le Bon in his crowd psychology book 'The Crowd' could tell you...I think Zappa had a hunch or two about these antichrist assholes, and didn't care.Let the left hate the right,who gives a fuck anyway?

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Actually, what is needed is somebody to throw a stone at Mister Illuminati, make him fall down, then chop off his big, ugly, head.All in the name of Peace and Love,Amen.

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I've read up on Leo Zagami, and spent a bunch of time on his massive blog back when it existed. I still don't know what to think of the guy and his claims. He did have all sorts of pictures with him and some pretty powerful people, and he does look like a straight up satanist!!!

In my research, the most impressive connect the dots all inclusive history of seceret societies and their connections going back to the mystery schools of Babylon is definately William Cooper's Mystery Babylon radio series. You can download the whole thing here http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/audi ... abylon.htm
It's a pretty time intensive study, but episode by episode, if you start I think you'll get sucked in pretty quickly!



O.K. -I've checked out William Cooper's site & presently, for the heck of it, am downloading one of his broadcasts, entitled 'Darkness'. Having only dial-up, it will take over an hour...It looks like Cooper was another Alex Jones...

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Leo Zagami
By Greg Szymanski
ArcticBeacon.com
10-25-6

Leo Zagami, successor to high-level Italian Illuminati figure and
former Reagan unofficial Vatican advisor, Licio Gelli, switches sides
from evil to good and is warning Americans about coming fascism.

Very rarely does a high-level Illuminati 33 degree Freemason come
forward with inside information, damaging to the Vatican-controlled and
Jesuit-led New World Order.

But Leo Zagami, a Sicilian aristocrat and former high-member of the
Monte Carlo P2 Lodge, is doing just that, coming forward for the simple
reason he could no longer work under the forces of evil who are killing
millions around the world.

The following message from Zagami, who just left the clutches of the
evil Illuminati in June, is printed to show just how high-up in the
Illuminati pecking order his black star had risen.

It is also printed to protect Zagami's life as he was already arrested,
beaten and tortured twice since going public with a web site geared at
enlightening America to the threat the Vatican-led Illuminati poses to
the American people.

In fact, Zagami's information comes from the top of the Illuminati
secret files and correspondence since he was even considered in his
home country of Italy to be the P2 Masonic successor to the powerful
Licio Gelli, who was being slowly moved out of Illuminati active duty
because of his age.

Zagami only weeks ago went public with his English language web site
and last week made his first public appearance on American radio,
appearing on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal.

Zagami is scheduled to make a second appearance next week, as his top
level information has helped to connect the dots between the Vatican,
the Jesuits, Freemasonry and their control over the U.S government.

Here is his most recent words and it is easy to see why the higher-ups
in the Illuminati are listening to his every word and watching his
every move very closely:

Remember, my dear friend, I was not your ordinary Freemason but a
Senior P2 Illuminati in charge of many hidden operations and the
supposed successor of illustrious Bro. Licio Gelli. We have to be very
careful and then we can free Rome, Sicily and the rest of the world
from all this evil Mind Control satanic network of perverts and black
magicians.

The United States was founded by Freemasons who had a dream of
independence, freedom, and truth, so lets see if we can bring them to
realize their actual slavery from the evil Illuminati Jesuit game and
change their path towards God not Satanism.

Father Sebott and others are working against honest Freemasons all over
the world so lets do it before is to late and I'm sure we can save a
few souls. The deal between the Jesuit and the Freemasons of the Grande
Oriente d'Italia (that include P2) was madeofficially in the Parioli
district of Rome at "La Casa del dialogo" in 1975 with Padre Caprile
and the Italian Grand Master. Present to this event most P2 members and
400 High degree Masons. Brother Maurizio Costanzo known pervert and
important manipulator of the Illuminati was there. Costanzo is now in
charge of Berlusconi's P2 TV brainwashing programs for the new
generations of Italian chickens.

My wife recently had a dream last May and after that nothing was the
same for me (dreams are very important for Sufi's) God told her that
Giorgio Hugo Balestrieri was working with the Anti-Christ himself and I
had to stop being a GLADIO P2 Illuminati puppet, because this people
will never change even if I took control of the Order and tried to make
them understand the true work of the God and the real Illuminati...you
will discover I'm a big idealist and I really am trying to save the
souls of people over and over again...that's what a genuine man of God
does to a fellow Brother in need even at the highest levels of the
corrupted Empire of Satan every soul counts.

So let's unveil the truth and help humanity being less hypocritical.
Let's just tell them we are who the real Puppet Masters are in detail
and how it works by fighting the Legion of Satan head on.

Everybody in the Italian Masonic circles knows I was the supposed
successor of Gelli and the right hand of Ezio Giunchiglia for a long
time in the Monte Carlo Lodge and the Universal Unity. So this
revelation will be not big news for most High Degree Masons in Italy
and making it public is no problem.

I also worked with Ezio on the new (Scottish) Rite and we followed
after the 33rd
Degree. Brother Ezio use to cal it the Rinnovato Rito Scozzese (5 extra
degrees made to manipulate the Monte Carlo elite even further) and this
was made within the inner circle of the Ordo Illuminatorum Universalis.

I was responsible for the revision of the 38th
degree called Knight of St. John of the Apocalypse and what is known as
the Supreme Council of Transformation, leading to the knowledge of the
true Invisible Masters of the 39th degree and last degree of the Monte
Carlo illuminati system known as THE INVISIBLE MASTERS.

These invisible Masters were chosen only in the high level religious
and aristocratic circles and contact with them was forbidden bellow the
38 degree. Why? Because there were real Illuminati and genuine Masters
chosen by the dark Illuminati to keep their pyramid credible in the
light of suspicions, as a nice front for the show. But also many fake
and evil ones like the Jesuits or Archbishop Paul Marcinkus that were
the real driving force of the Monte Carlo Lodge and GLADIO...the good
side of the INVISIBLE MASTERS were not even aware of their membership
in such Lodge and all this evil show for a long time until I arrived
and saw what was happening.

At that point I decided to punish Satan and his friends for this
terrible sin of deception with the help of God...let's see if we can
really change things now and bring some light in all this darkness and
ignorance but is definitely a risky affair since the Board of
Directors and the Illuminati. Marcinkus was called by Ezio the keeper
of the Vatican Safe keys...he always use to say "our illustrious
Brother of the safe"...

P2 is the Vatican and the Vatican is the real mind of GLADIO and I'm
probably a dead man as my wife is saying in the last few days but I
don't care and will go on. I tell her this is for the good of humanity
but she says I'm really risking to much this time.

Zagami continued with more details about the higher-levels of
Freemasonry, including more details about the influential Monte Carlo
Lodge:

I said 5 extra degrees and not 6 because the "Invisible Masters" were
never really meeting for any ritual work in any Lodge, so no proper
ritual was ever created or devised for them as they were just given
this position by the Supreme Council of Transformation (another great
invention of the Monte Carlo Illuminati) to cover up in reality the
dirty work of the usual "not so Invisible Masters" from the Jesuit
Order and the Zionist Empire...

P2 and GLADIO were very clever in doing this for manipulating the
lower structure of their P2 slaves, playing this never ending
illuminati game of Gelli and Giunchiglia the two Puppet Masters of the
P2 (Worshipful Master and Treasurer).

The so called Supreme Council of Transformation (Apocalypse means
Transformation by the way...) will say or publish for the rest of the
Brethern the following "we have been giving this honorary degree and we
visited personally such and such great and illustrious Brother to
recognize each other as real Illuminati" In reality the situation was
quite different and the only real Invisible Masters I ever saw around
there at top level meetings were all dangerous mafiosi and crooks of
the Vatican, including: Knights of Malta, Jesuits and Opus Dei...

But this was obviously not the official version for our Illuminati
followers of the P2 in lower levels, participants of this never ending
sick show of fake Illuminati myths created by Licio Gelli and Ezio
Giunchiglia. At one time they even came up with a false war with each
other to deceive people even more.

Ezio to get the attention off the important business of the Monte Carlo
Lodge under investigation spread the rumor outside P2 that at the end
of the 70's he had broke a chair in the head of our Worshipful Master
Licio Gelli...

Really creative people these Puppet Masters and is actually quite fun
to see all the sheep under believing every bit of it , poor world of
idiots without a God, poor Satanist.

The elite of the Monte Carlo Lodge members the Board of Directors if
you prefer, meet in a very discreet and secret room given by a very
prestigious Hotel in the center of Monte Carlo, and the entrance is
located and the end of the entrance hall on you left where you can
notice some stairs going up to this particular room. But don't try
going upstairs because you might get in serious trouble with the
security if you are up for a stunt. This is not a Bohemian Grove
American illuminati theatrical affair for political chickens with a
couple of perverts of the New World Order to eventually blackmail
later. This is always a proper high level meeting of true P2, Don's
doing business with USA intelligence, Cosa Nostra, Vatican
Jesuits...and more...

So I warn you in advance for you own safety don't go in search of the
Holy Grail in Monte Carlo if you want to stay alive, because business
is business for these people and if you interfere with the Mob you
want stay alive as you all know...

All other meetings of the Monte Carlo Lodge structure go under the name
UNIVERSAL UNITY www.universal-unity.net and they are only made in
Monasteries around Italy and France (very handy for a quick confession
with a Jesuit friend of your choice) were the recruiting process starts
...go to the Monastery and join the P2!

The last meeting of the Monte Carlo board of Directors I went to was on
the 1st of June 2006 and the last Universal Unity Gathering I went to
the meeting in the Monastery of San Cerbone (near Lucca).

The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, The Rectified Scottish Rite,
The illuminati Rite of Memphis and Misraim and various other rituals
and Rite's of Freemasonry under direct P2/Jesuit control are
practiced elsewhere around Italy and France under various Masonic
Obedience (apparently all in war with each other...the usual show) but
that's all part
of the Masonic Theatre not the real thing that's called UNIVERSAL UNITY
and the MONTE CARLO LODGE.

For more informative articles, go to www.arcticbeacon.com
http://www.rense.com/general74/former.htm


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Bilderberg, Shadow Supergovernment
The economic summit will take place this week near Washington

It was particularly difficult this year to find out when and where the annual conclave of world powerbrokers, the Bilderberg Group, would take place. Finally, it appears certain that the highly secret meeting of western political-military elites will take place from June 5 – 8 in Chantilly, Virginia, near Washington, in a luxury hotel immersed in nature, the Westfield’s Marriott.

What is Bilderberg? The Bilderberg group, which convened for the first time in 1954 in Holland, is considered the most powerful decision-making organization in the world. Semi-secret (without even a website), the group consists of elite political, financial, managerial, military, and media leaders from North America and Western Europe. In contrast with the Trilateral Commission, which was created out of the Bilderberg Group specifically to work with emerging Asian nations (Japan in the Seventies, China and India today), the Bilderberg Group is a genuine “shadow government” of the West that, some critics say, decides the fate of the world to suit the interests of the restricted oligarchy it represents.

On the Table. Two years ago, a press release sent out on the date of the opening session in 2006 (held in Ottawa, Canada), explained that the annual meeting would discuss the War on Terrorism, the situation in Iran and the Middle East, Oil, Russia, US-EU relations, and relations between the West and Asia, as well as Immigration. It is to be supposed that this year’s meeting will include discussion of current international emergencies, such as Afghanistan, the high cost of oil, and the world economic crisis. Concerning oil: after the Ottawa meeting, indiscreet leaks reported that a decision had been announced by oil producers to raise the cost of oil to over $100 a barrel over the course of two years.

The most recent list of Bilderberg members dates from the 2006 meeting, and includes high Bush administration officials, Henry Kissinger, the directors of the Federal Reserve Bank, Credit Suisse, Rothschild Europe (Vice President Franco Bernabè), representatives of Shell, BP, and ENI (Paolo Scaroni), Coca Cola, Phillips, Unilever, Time Warner, AOL, Tyssen-Krupp, and Fiat (Vice President John Elkann). Also present were representatives from Nato, the United Nations, the World Bank, the European Union, and economists (including Giulio Tremonti and Mario Monti) and many Western leaders (Italy’s representative was Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa). See below other Italian participants at past Bilderberg meetings.

Why all the privacy? Considering the grave importance to the public of the subjects discussed and the people present at the meetings, it would be logical – if for no other reason that to discourage paranoid theories – not to keep the meetings so private (or secret, if you prefer), and not to hold them behind closed doors in super-secure locations surrounded by armed guards, far from the prying eyes of journalists and the curious. If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding?

http://www.peacereporter.net/dettaglio_articolo.php?idc=0&idart=11246

Related:
http://www.zappa.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=226920#226920

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_attendees
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2008 Trilateral Commission
Attendee List
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The Trilateral Commission - North American Group 2008

TRILATERAL COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE

Thomas S. Foley North American Chairman
(He was Speaker of the House under Clinton.
Thank him for NAFTA etc. --DE)
Peter Sutherland European Chairman
Yotaro Kobayashi Pacific Asia Chairman
Allan E. Gotlieb North American Deputy Chairman
Herve De Carmoy European Deputy Chairman
Han Sung-Joo Pacific Asia Deputy Chairman
Lorenzo H. Zamibrano North American Deputy Chairman
Ainijrzej Olechowski European Deputy Chairman
Shijuro Ogata Pacific Asia Deputy Chairman
David Rockefeller Founder And Honorary Chairman
Paul A. Volcker North American Honorary Chairman
(Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve)
Georges Berthoin Chairman European Honorary
Otto Graf Lambsdorf European Honorary Chairman
Michael J. O'Neil North American Director
Paul Revay European Director
Tadashi Yamamoto Pacific Asia Director

NORTH AMERICAN GROUP

Madeleine K Albright The Albright Group LLC Washington, D.C.
She embraced the leaders of the Maoist FARC
drug dealers when she visited Columibia etc.
Henry A. Kissinger Lifetime Trustee,
Trilateral Commission Washington, D.C.
[Kissinger and Associates sells access
to China's princelings, Bush's choice to head
9-11 Commission, was on Richard Perle's
Defense Policy Board at the Pentagon with
Wolfowtiz planning war with Iraq BEFORE 9-11 etc.]
Do a study of the backgrounds of all of these
and you would have a very good idea
of how the globalist conspiracy operates.}
Graham Allison
Kennedy School of Government, Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
Richard L. Armitage Armitage International Washington, D.C.
James L. Balsillie
Co-Chief Exec. Officer, Research in Motion Waterloo, Ontario
Charlene Barshefsky Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering Washington, D.C.
Alan R. Batkin Eton Park Capital Management New York, N.Y.
Lael Brainard The Brookings Institution Washington, D.C.
Doug Bereuter The Asia Foundation San Francisco.
C. Fred Bergsten
Peterson Institute for Int'l Economics Washington, D.C.
Catherine Bertini Syracuse University Syracuse, N.Y.
Robert D. Blackwill
Former Deputy Asst, to the President Washington D.C.
Dennis Blair,
USN (Ret.) Institute for Defense Analyses Alexandria, Va.
H. Blanco Mendoza Private Office of Herminio Blanco Mexico City
Stephen W. Bosworth Dean, Tufts University Medford, Mass.
David G. Bradley Atlantic Media Company Washington, D.C.
Harold Brown
Center for Strategic and Int'l Studies Washington, D.C.
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Center for Strategic and Int'l Studies Washington, D.C.
Sylvia Mathews Burwell
President Global Development Program Hinton, WV
Louis C. Camilleri Altria Group, Inc New York, N.Y.
Kurt Campbell
CEO Center New American Security Washington, D.C.
Raymond Chrétien
Fasken Martineau DuMoulin LLP Montreal, Quebec
William T. Coleman III Cassatt Corporation San Jose, Calif.
Timothy C. Collins Ripplewood Holdings New York, N.Y.
Richard N. Cooper Harvard University Cambridge, Mass.
F. Gerald Corrigan Goldman, Sachs & Co. New York, N.Y.
Michael J. Critelli Pitney Bowes Inc. Stamford, Conn.
Lee Cullum "NewsHour with Jim Lehrer," Dallas, Texas
H. Lawrence Culp, Jr CEO of Danaher Washington, D.C.
Gerald L. Curtis Columbia University New York, N.Y.
Douglas Daft The Coca Cola Company Atlanta, Ga.
Lynn Davis The RAND Corporation Arlington, Va.
Arthur A. DeFehr Palliser Furniture Winnipeg
André Desmarais Power Corporation of Canada Montréal, Quebec
John M. Deutch Mass. Institute of Technology Cambridge, Mass.
Jamie Dimon JP Morgan Chase & Co. New York, N.Y.
Peter C. Dobell Parliamentary Centre Ottawa, Ontario
Wendy K Dobson University of Toronto Toronto
Kenneth M. Duberstein The Duberstein Group Washington, D.C.
Robert Eckert Mattel, Inc. El Segundo, Calif.
Jessica P. Einhorn
The Johns Hopkins University Washington, D.C.
Jeffrey Epstein J. Epstein & Company, Inc. New York, N.Y.
Dianne Feinstein U.S. Senate (D-Calif.) Washington, D.C.
Martin S. Feldstein Harvard University Cambridge, Mass.
Roger W. Ferguson, Jr.
Swiss Re America Holding Corp. Washington, D.C.
Stanley Fischer
Bank of Israel; frmr president, Citigroup New York, N.Y.
Richard W. Fisher Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas Dallas, Texas
Thomas S. Foley
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld Washington, D.C.
Kristin J. Forbes
Associate Prof. of Int'l Management Cambridge Mass.
Michael B.G. Froman Citigroup Inc. New York, N.Y.
Francis Fukuyama
The Johns Hopkins University Washington, D.C.
Dionisio Garza Medina ALFA Mexico
Richard A. Gephardt
Former member House of Reps. (D-Mo.) Washington, D.C.
David Gergen Harvard; Editor, USN&WR Cambridge, Mass.
Peter C. Godsoe Scotiabank (ret.) Toronto, Ontario
Allan E. Gotlieb Bennett Jones LLP Toronto, Ontario
Bill Graham Canadian House of Commons Ottawa, Ontario
Donald E. Graham
CEO of The Washington Post Company Washington, D.C.
Jeffrey W. Greenberg
Aquiline Capital Partners, LLC New York, N.Y.
Richard N. Haass
President, Council on Foreign Relations New York, N.Y.
James T. Hackett Anadarko Petroleum Corp. Texas
John J. Hamre
Center for Strategic and Int'l Studies Washington, D.C.
William A. Haseltine
Haseltine Global Health, LLC Washington, D.C.
Richard F. Haskayne University of Calgary Alberta
Charles B. Heck
Senior Adviser, Trilateral Commission Washington, D.C.
Carlos Heredia International Affairs Mexico
Carla A. Hills
Hills & Company, Int'l Consultants Washington, D.C.
Richard Holbrooke Perseus LLC New York, N.Y.
Karen Elliott House Dow Jones & Co.
& Wall Street Journal Princeton, N.J.
Alej. Junco de la Vega Grupo Reforma Monterrey, Mexico
Robert Kagan
Carnegie Endowment for Int'l Peace Washington, D.C.
Arnold Kanter The Scowcroft Group Washington, D.C.
Charles R. Kaye Warburg Pincus LLC New York, N.Y.
James Kimsey Founding CEO of AOL Washington, D.C.
Michael Klein Citigroup Inc. New York, N.Y.
Steven E. Koonin British Petroleum London
Enrique Krauze Editorial Clio Libros y Videos,
S.A. de C.V. Mexico City
Robert Lane Deere & Company Moline, Ill.
Fred Langhammer
The Estee Lauder Companies, Inc. New York, N.Y.
Jim Leach Former U.S. Representative (R-IA) Washington, D.C.
Gerald M. Levin AOL Time Warner, Inc. New York, N.Y.
Winston Lord
International Rescue Committee New York, N.Y.
E. Peter Lougheed
Bennett Jones, Banisters & Solicitors Calgary, Alberta
Roy MacLaren
Former High Commissioner to the UK Toronto, Ontario
John A. MacNaughton
Frmr CEO Canada Pension Plan Invest. Brd Toronto, Ontario
Antonio Madero San Luis Corporacion, S.A. de C.V. Mexico
John Manley McCarthy Tétrault LLP Ottawa, Ontario
Sir Deryck C. Maughan
KKR Asia, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. New York, N.Y.
Jay Mazur Union of Needletrades,
Textile Employees New York, N.Y.
James Moore Canadian Parliament Ottawa, Ontario
Marc H. Morial National Urban League New York, N.Y.
Heather Munroe-Blum McGill University Montreal, Quebed
Brian Mulroney Ogilvy Renault Montréal, Quebec
Indra K. Nooyi PepsiCo, Inc. Purchase, N.Y.
Joseph S. Nye, Jr.
Kennedy School of Government, Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
David J. O'Reilly Chevron Corporation San Ramon, Calif.
Meghan O'Sullivan Former Deputy
National Security Adviser Washington, D.C.
Richard N. Perle American Enterprise Institute Washington, D.C.
Thomas R. Pickering Consultant, The Boeing Company Arlington, Va.
Martha C. Piper The University of British Columbia Vancouver, B.C.
Richard Plepler Executive Vice President, HBO New York, N.Y.
Joe Ralston, USAF (Ret) The Cohen Group Washington, D.C.
Charles B. Rangel
U.S. House of Representatives (D-N.Y.) Washington, D.C.
Susan Rice Brookings Institution Washington, D.C.
Hartley Richardson James Richardson & Sons, Ltd. Winnipeg, Manitoba
Joseph E. Robert, Jr. J.E. Robert Companies McLean, Va.
John D. Rockefeller IV U.S. Senate (D-W.V.) Washington, D.C.
Kenneth Rogoff Center for Int'l Development, Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
Charles Rose The Charlie Rose Show, PBS New York, N.Y.
Irene B. Rosenfeld CEO Kraft Foods Northfield, Ill
Dennis Ross Ambassador Counselor and Ziegler Washington, D.C.
David M. Rubenstein The Carlyle Group Washington, D.C.
Luis Rubio Center of Research for Development Mexico City, Mexico
Arthur F. Ryan Prudential Financial, Inc. Newark, N.J.
Jaime Serra SAI Consulting Mexico City, Mexico
Dinakar Singh TPG-Axon Capital New York, N.Y.
Anne-Marie Slaughter Princeton University Princeton, N.J.
Gordon Smith Centre for Global Studies,
U. of Victoria Victoria, B.C.
Donald R. Sobey Empire Company Ltd. Halifax, Nova Scotia
Ronald D. Southern ATCO Group Calgary, Alberta
James B. Steinberg LBJ School of Public Affairs,
U. of Texas Austin, Texas
Jessica Stern Program on Terrorism & the Law,
Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
Barbara Stymiest RBC Financial Group Toronto, Ontario
Lawrence H. Summers Harvard University Cambridge, Mass.
John J. Sweeney AFL-CIO Washington, D.C.
Strobe Talbott The Brookings Institution Washington, D.C.
George J. Tenet
Georgetown Univ., former CIA Director Washington, D.C.
John Thain New York Stock Exchange, Inc. New York, N.Y.
G. Richard Thoman Columbia University New York, N.Y.
Paul A. Volcker Wolfensohn & Co., Inc.,
frmr Fed. Res. Chair.New York, N.Y.
William H. Webster Former CIA Director Washington, D.C.
Fareed Zakaria Newsweek International New York, N.Y.
Lorenzo H. Zambrano CEMEX Monterey, Mexico
Ernesto Zedillo Former president of Mexico;
Yale Univ. New Haven, Conn.
Mortimer B. Zuckerman
Chairman, U.S. News & World Report New York, N.Y.
William T. Coleman, Jr.
Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission Washington, D.C.
Robert S. McNamara Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission,
frmr pres., World Bank; frmr sec.of Defense;
frmr pres., Ford Motor. Washington, D.C.
David Rockefeller
Founder, Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Comm. New York, N.Y.

NEW TRILATERAL MEMBERS ATTENDING FROM EUROPE

Patricia Barbizet CEO Artemis Group, France
Dermot Gleeson Chairman, AIB Group, Ireland
Elisabeth Guigou French National Assembly, France
Nigel Higgins Senior Partner N M Rohschild & Sons, UK
Jerzy Kozminski President & CEO Polish-American Freedom, Poland
Thomas Leysen CEO Umicore, Belgium
Manfred Bischoff Chairman, SNCF, France
Arpad Kovacs Pres. State Audit Office Hungary, Budapest
Friedrich Merz Member of the German Bundestag, Germany
Pietro Modiano Mng. Director CEO Intesa Sanpaolo, Italy
Hans Reisenhuber (returning)
Member of the German Bundestag, Germany
Jeroen van der Veer
Chief Executive, Royal Dutch Shell, The Netherlands
(Issue # 19, May 12, 2008)

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Note the illuminati symbolism on the CIV Phase 3 artwork. Especially inside cover, some weird alien beatle lifts up a pyramid to uncover the world imprisoned inside it, superimposed overtop is a pentagram. On this same album is a piece of music about our future inside a prison planet called New World Order (part of N-Lite) as well as an ending about all the ways the government kills you, including planes spraying the populace with toxic substances. Heavy stuff!

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