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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:32 am 
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Chalk Pie, a shelved FZ album, is available for download here:<br><br>http://www.zappa.hu/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=95<br><br>START DOWNLOADING!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:53 pm 
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All right, nice album and it is possible to download and listen to it. But why can't I copy it?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:06 am 
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Are there other unreleased albums like this available for download?<br><br> ???<br><br>Stuff like this is treasure to me!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:06 am 
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I always wanted to make a CD based on the original track listing for "Zoot Allures". (For those of you that don't know what I'm talking about, check this out: http://lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/weird ... ootallures)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:19 am 
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From:<br>http://lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/weirdo/unreleased.html#chalkpie<br><br>Chalk Pie<br>Unique material: lots<br><br>Chalk Pie was the name of a live album planned for release in 1982. The track list was:<br><br>1. Drowning Witch<br>2. Envelopes<br>3. Teen-Age Prostitute<br><br>4. The Dangerous Kitchen<br>5. Chalk Pie<br>6. We're Turning Again<br>7. Alien Orifice<br><br>8. The Jazz Discharge Party Hats<br>9. "The Torture Never Stops" guitar solo (title unknown)<br>10. What's New in Baltimore?<br>11. Moggio <br><br>12. "The Black Page #2" guitar solo (title unknown)<br>13. Clownz on Velvet<br>14. Frogs with Dirty Little Lips<br><br>JWB provides a track-by-track walkthrough:<br><br>Tracks 1-3 are identical versions and edits as side two of Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch, except they are mixed much differently.<br><br>"Drowning Witch" - Live with studio overdubs. The group vocal section is from Santa Monica Dec-11-1981 (early show), Zappa's vocal secion is from Chicago 27-Nov-1981 (late show), the first guitar solo from the Ritz 17-Nov-1981, and the first third or so of the second solo is from Chicago 27-Nov-1981 (late show) again. The rest of the song is unknown. It all contains studio overdubs, some of which render the basic tracks almost unrecognizable. <br>"Envelopes" - Live with studio overdubs. location unknown. Same version as on Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch. <br>"Teen-Age Prostitute" - Live at Santa Monica 11-Dec-1981 (early show) with studio overdubs. All vocals appear in this mix; many were mixed out in Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch, where the lead guitar was also brought forward. Same version as on Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch. <br>"The Dangerous Kitchen" - Live at Armadillo in Austin, Texas 16-Oct-1980. Same version as on The Man from Utopia original LP but mixed differently. <br>"Chalk Pie" - Live in Salt Lake City 7-Dec-1981. Same as on Guitar, but mixed slightly differently. <br>"We're Turning Again" - live in Santa Monica 11-Dec-1981 (early show) and Salt Lake City 7-Dec-1981. Unreleased version. Frank makes hilarious references to Journey, REO Speedwagon, Foreigner, and Styx at the end of the song. <br>"Alien Orifice" - Live in Salt Lake City 7-Dec-1981. Unreleased version. <br>"The Jazz Discharge Party Hats" - Live in Carbondale, Illinois, 15-Nov-1980. Appears to be the same mix on The Man from Utopia original LP. <br>"The Torture Never Stops" guitar solo (title unknown) - Live in 1980. Unreleased. <br>"What's New In Baltimore?" - Seems to be live with studio overdubs, location unknown. Same version as on Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention, but the guitar solo is longer (full & unedited) and the mix is much different with less studio overdubs. [The guitar solo certainly is from Maryland November 15 1981 (late show), or must be, since it's the same as the album version, so I guess it's reasonable that the whole performance is from that show - Milhouse Guidry] <br>"Moggio" - Live in Chicago #2 11/27/81 with studio overdubs. Same version as on The Man from Utopia, but mixed differently. [Just a clarification ... it is mixed much more like the original LP mix than any other mix. So at least we know that the lead-guitar-prominence idea was there early, and only later did he decide to change it. - David Goodwin] <br>"The Black Page #2" guitar solo (title unknown) - Live in San Diego 12-Dec-1981 (early show). Unreleased. Might have been titled "Them Or Us". <br>"Clownz on Velvet" - Live at the Ritz 17-Nov-1981. Al DiMeola guests on lead guitar. Unreleased. <br>"Frogs with Dirty Little Lips" - Live in Santa Monica 11-Dec-1981 (early show) with studio overdubs. Zappa's son Ahmet guests. Unreleased version. Could have been used as the basic tracks for the Them Or Us version, as the studio overdubs appear to correspond with that version. <br>It is a shame that Chalk Pie went unreleased. The continuity is excellent, as well as the track selection. Does anyone know why Frank deleted it? Is it because of Al DiMeloa's dissatisfaction with his "Clownz on Velvet" solo? What a shame.<br><br>

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crush all boxes<br>

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To me this way to put an album of that phase together would have fitted more than to skip the tracks around. <br><br>"Chalk Pie" this way was more of a "round" album than MFU or MTMOP are...but, round things are boring, huh? ;D

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[quote author=J.C.Greasy link=board=legends;num=1109532740;start=0#11 date=09/14/05 at 20:40:17]Says access denied[/quote]<br><br>They do take them off after awhile.<br><br>

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With Chalk Pie and now Crush all Boxes, I really feel my collection really is coming to a close.

I sought out this old thread to say that Im glad Frank edited a lot of vocals on "Teenage Prostitute". In between breaks the singer, Im guessing Thana Harris, sings along with the guitar and drums and sounds god awful. Now if only Frank would have completly wiped all vocals on "Planet of My Dreams". -vomits- That is probably one of his worst songs I ever heard.

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Bonzo wrote:
With Chalk Pie and now Crush all Boxes, I really feel my collection really is coming to a close.

I sought out this old thread to say that Im glad Frank edited a lot of vocals on "Teenage Prostitute". In between breaks the singer, Im guessing Thana Harris, sings along with the guitar and drums and sounds god awful. Now if only Frank would have completly wiped all vocals on "Planet of My Dreams". -vomits- That is probably one of his worst songs I ever heard.


I think Chalk Pie is a great album...

And some times, I actually prefer the Chalk Pie version of Teenage Prostitute.
Its RAW!

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I sought out this old thread to say that Im glad Frank edited a lot of vocals on "Teenage Prostitute". In between breaks the singer, Im guessing Thana Harris, sings along with the guitar and drums and sounds god awful. quote]

That would be Lisa Popeil, not Thana Harris.


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is this link not working for anyone else

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Chalk Pie is a great lp. A must to have


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Grimpoteuthis wrote:
is this link not working for anyone else


It says it is temporarily unavailable 'er sumtin'

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Chalk Pie is a great lp. A must to have


I know I like it :D

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Bonzo wrote:
I sought out this old thread to say that Im glad Frank edited a lot of vocals on "Teenage Prostitute". In between breaks the singer, Im guessing Thana Harris, sings along with the guitar and drums and sounds god awful. quote]

That would be Lisa Popeil, not Thana Harris.



Ah ok.

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BizarroHesh wrote:
Grimpoteuthis wrote:
is this link not working for anyone else


It says it is temporarily unavailable 'er sumtin'


...Well...It WAS originally posted in Feb of '05. Perhaps no longer posted there. Too bad, I was excited to download it! :cry:


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R.C._Cola wrote:
BizarroHesh wrote:
Grimpoteuthis wrote:
is this link not working for anyone else


It says it is temporarily unavailable 'er sumtin'


...Well...It WAS originally posted in Feb of '05. Perhaps no longer posted there. Too bad, I was excited to download it! :cry:


I finally found Chalk Pie when I used Soulseek. Not sure what that is? Well..http://www.slsknet.org/

Its a very small p2p program which when you search for something, it chunks the albums together rather than the tracks themselves.

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That or use Emule. Cool program, but you need to fix your modem to accept packets.

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there's a Chalk Pie demo set that was included with the Thingfish Demos CD from Zipperman Demo Series Vol 3. think i'll see if someone at Zappateers has it (Chalkpie).

Yep, it's listed by a user who must only go on line for 20 minutes at a time once every 8 weeks. i've been waiting forever to complete another performance that apparently only he has. (sigh!) :(


BUT! i checked the member's list here and found the same user name and a link to his website and i emailed him from there to see if he still did stuff with Zappateers so all may not be lost yet..... :)

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