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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:39 am 
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E-x-a-c-t-l-y, KK.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:10 am 
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There is a candidate to run against his hand picked successor, this apparently is the problem with dictators, they say he oppressed any apposition, like castro ,and saddam ,both his buddies, you buck the dictator well.... also he has eliminated the middle class in his country, like obama is doing here, giveaways to the poor; much more complex then I wish to argue, as a note the usa imports more oil from venezuela than Saudi. Looks like he spent much of the oil profits, instead of funding oil exploration and technology, that would be bad for the countries economy.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:47 am 
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Gee, if we are gonna talk about bad boys I would start out by pointing not popularly elected US daddy-son playboy President Mr George W Bush, aka The Devil... How many children's souls on his account? Was he anti-Semitic? Never heard of that before, maybe anti Zionist...



Bush was bad but only because Dr. Evil was running things (Dick Cheney), as George Carlin once said"...anytime you let guys named Dick Cheney and Colin Powell run a war someone is going to get fucked in the ass..."

But Chavez was hanging with bad guys (Iran gets him an automatic bad guy rating, not to mention the others) and was very anti semetic, don't have time to search now, but its out there you'll find it... :smoke:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:34 am 
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Comparing Bush to Chavez is ludacris, Chavez backed , farc, come on....say what you want about bush but he never stopped free voting, and let me remember the price of gas and what was the unemployment rate? Now we have a guy that is too humane to waterboard but will kill even a us citizen with a drone, and i just love 50 plus billion to the Syrian rebels as well as egypt and that government , Cheney my ass.

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The US an UK media liked to brand Chávez as a dictator, but he was three times democratically elected...

US once backed/funded what would become Al Qaeda...

Did anyone care to watch, South of the Border (i did, yesterday, plese do it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBlV5TUI64

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:16 am 
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NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD,,



Alvin Lee,, Ten Years After,,


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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
The US an UK media liked to brand Chávez as a dictator, but he was three times democratically elected...

US once backed/funded what would become Al Qaeda...

Did anyone care to watch, South of the Border (i did, yesterday, plese do it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBlV5TUI64

Saddam was elected more times than that. you cannot be serious

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edyrukidng wrote:
NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD,,



Alvin Lee,, Ten Years After,,


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:25 am 
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This is very sad one of my favorite musicians. There is a giant hole in the music cosmos :cry:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:28 am 
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Wow, just yesterday I was listening to most of Ten Year After's set at Woodstock (mostly muddy sounding boots for everything but I'm Goin' Home). RIP.

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Paul Bearer is now definitely ready for the Undertaker

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... t=1&f=1001

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:09 am 
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Oh Gosh !!!!

Alvin Lee gone ?
I played a song from the "Cricklewood" (?) Album when I was 17.
And "I'd loved to change the world" is a classic !

That is a very sad news. I loved the guy.
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Paul Bearer is now definitely ready for the Undertaker

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... t=1&f=1001


He played his character pretty well. Percy Pringle III also.

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
The US an UK media liked to brand Chávez as a dictator, but he was three times democratically elected...

US once backed/funded what would become Al Qaeda...

Did anyone care to watch, South of the Border (i did, yesterday, plese do it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBlV5TUI64

Thanx man! After the 60's,Nixon & 'Nam you could see the machine start right back up.Every war since 'Nam was on the Rebubicans watch,that don't make the Democrats any less culpable.War makes money and true capitolist will go for the buck with a bang,bang,bang.We've become so lax that the media propaganda machine has most of America by they're scared to death of communism/dictators/socialist,
short hairs.
Horsemeat! (mmm taste good) If you have to rely on government or media news to form an opinion of Latin American politics and policy's then you'll be sadly mistaken.If you haven't been south of the border STFU about policies.And if you've gone and done all the toutista shit down south,don't call that knowing what's right for our south American brothers and sisters.We don't know doodly-squat about how these people really feel.Honestly where do we get off acting like we know whats best for them?! They do we don't,simple.But not to a capitolist who wants to exploit the country (any country) though.They want to go in there and strip it clean.That's your capitolism at work.The 1% just vacation in Dubai,they have everything a capitalist pig would want.
We've been sending Marines/observers down Guatamala since the 1800's and we still don't get it.We'll never set up country's like pawns for the USA to use as it wants.Forget makng any country colonialism consorts again in Latin or South America.They're on to us and are lifting themselves outta poverty slowly and the US can't stand taking credit for it,or making money off it.
I say lift any embargos off and extend a hand to test the waters and try and help Venezuala and Bolivia do it's own thing without stopping them with bombs,bullets and propaganda if they don't do it the American way,we might even learn a thing or two and have real friends in the region....with oil and lots of other resourses too.
And we need to quit using the war on drugs to go meddle in anyone's reagion.Think Columbia and Afghanistan/Panama

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Well that was a mixed bag, but I agree and think we the us should help in venezuela if they want ,we buy plenty of oil from them, but sadly it looks like more dictatorship, you can not possibly endorse FARC. also lets let this thread stay with, just died, I 'm jammin some cricklewood green

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I'll miss Alvin Lee.I went to The Fillmore west in '70-'71 and was lucky to see Ten Years After about the time Goin' Home was playing on the FM channels alot.Buddy Rich was on before them and I dug Buddy in a different way,anyway when BR's set was over he said "Thanks you guys are great! Now I'll get outta your way for Ten Year Later!" Funny guy and Alvin was in top form.Exellent show! I've seen Alvin since but that first time really stuck out.Everyone was great that night.Bummer man. :cry:

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Well that was a mixed bag, but I agree and think we the us should help in venezuela if they want ,we buy plenty of oil from them, but sadly it looks like more dictatorship, you can not possibly endorse FARC. also lets let this thread stay with, just died, I 'm jammin some cricklewood green




Mr.G_G_ let's stay outta this thread,start our own leftist guerilla thread maybe? The Simon Bolivar thread! Viva la independence.I feel ya brother.Freedom/equality scares the shit outta the 1%. :wink:

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Regarding Alvin Lee...as a kid growing up in the '70s with a house full of older siblings who had every Alvin Lee record, whether it was Ten Years After, Alvin Lee and Company, with Mylon Lefevre, Ten Years Later ect ect ect, and the many times he played at many a local night club, most of which no longer exist, he was an artist that truley opened my eyes to music. I have a lot of emotional and personal connection to Alvin lee and his music. Huge loss...


Regarding George W Bush versus Hugo Chávez....they were both terrible leaders, but I wouldf have to say that Bush was far far worse. He was responsible for more deaths, and took the stongest economy in American hisory and with the help of the Republican party, turned it into the worst Depression/Recession since the Great Recession. Bush ad Cheney arealso responsible for war crimes as well as treason.

Republican voters/supporters haven't been normal since the Bush presidency, probably because they are spiteful that their guy was worse than ay of them ever want to admit, but take it out on president Obama, who comparatively, is a far superior leader and far more successful for the right reasons. History will put Obama near the top next to Lincoln, Washington and the Roosevelts.


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Damn!!!!

PS: Please move all the other dead crap on Bush and Chavez to the appropriate place

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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
The US an UK media liked to brand Chávez as a dictator, but he was three times democratically elected...

US once backed/funded what would become Al Qaeda...

Did anyone care to watch, South of the Border (i did, yesterday, plese do it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBlV5TUI64

Saddam was elected more times than that. you cannot be serious

You really can't be serious comparing Saddam with Chávez. In his first election he didn't have the machine and won fair and square by the will of the absolute majority, that is called Democracy. Read the historical facts. What did he do to be so demonized by US media besides putting up against the US geopolitical ambitions?

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I'll miss Alvin Lee.I went to The Fillmore west in '70-'71 and was lucky to see Ten Years After about the time Goin' Home was playing on the FM channels alot.Buddy Rich was on before them and I dug Buddy in a different way,anyway when BR's set was over he said "Thanks you guys are great! Now I'll get outta your way for Ten Year Later!" Funny guy and Alvin was in top form.Exellent show! I've seen Alvin since but that first time really stuck out.Everyone was great that night.Bummer man. :cry:

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Well that was a mixed bag, but I agree and think we the us should help in venezuela if they want ,we buy plenty of oil from them, but sadly it looks like more dictatorship, you can not possibly endorse FARC. also lets let this thread stay with, just died, I 'm jammin some cricklewood green




Mr.G_G_ let's stay outta this thread,start our own leftist guerilla thread maybe? The Simon Bolivar thread! Viva la independence.I feel ya brother.Freedom/equality scares the shit outta the 1%. :wink:

Colonial imperialism has just died! (I wish)...

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NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD,,



Alvin Lee,, Ten Years After,,


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Another great Italian? Bummer...

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
The US an UK media liked to brand Chávez as a dictator, but he was three times democratically elected...

US once backed/funded what would become Al Qaeda...

Did anyone care to watch, South of the Border (i did, yesterday, plese do it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBlV5TUI64



Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-il were also elected, if I am not mistaken unanimously a couple times, very much loved that not one vote in millions and millions was cast against these men... :smoke:


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Fairwell Alvin Lee, man you are all over the soundtrack of my youth, thank you!

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Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-il were also elected, if I am not mistaken unanimously a couple times, very much loved that not one vote in millions and millions was cast against these men... :smoke:

Probably, Chavéz worst crime was to provide oil for heating for the poor people in Boston in the US, while Exxon would not :smoke:

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
Plook wrote:
Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-il were also elected, if I am not mistaken unanimously a couple times, very much loved that not one vote in millions and millions was cast against these men... :smoke:

Probably, Chavéz worst crime was to provide oil for heating for the poor people in Boston in the US, while Exxon would not :smoke:



We may have found common ground, screw Boston over pampered idiots who believe kicking someones ass makes them right...fuck'em... :smoke:


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FZ made brief mention of Alvin Lee in a Mark & Howard radio interview of the late 80s. "Hey Alvin, didja change your guitar strings yet?"

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