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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:58 pm 
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US Witness Report Found on Stalin's Katyn Massacre
WARSAW, Poland January 8, 2014 (AP)
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A researcher says she has uncovered vital testimony by a U.S. officer whom the Nazis forced in 1943 to watch the exhumation of Polish officers killed on Soviet leader Josef Stalin's orders.

Krystyna Piorkowska said Wednesday she found the May 10, 1945, report by Lt. Col. John H. Van Vliet Jr. in archives near Washington. It provides evidence of Soviet responsibility for the 1940 massacre of some 22,000 Polish officers in the Katyn forest and other places in the then-Soviet Union.

Van Vliet's later, longer report is considered missing, which has fueled speculation that the U.S. silenced the truth.

Van Vliet was a POW in Germany when he was taken to Katyn to see the evidence.

Until 1990, Moscow blamed the Nazis, but then admitted Stalin ordered the massacre.


Actually, most people knew this was the Russians even at the Nuremberg Trials of the Major War Criminals (1945-46). The Soviets tried to pin it on the Nazis there, but if you look at the judgement, there is no mention of Nazi responsibility for the Katyn Massacre; the French, British and US judges were not impressed by the Soviet evidence and believed the evidence put together by Göring's defence lawyer, Dr. Stahmer.
(Transcripts from the appropriate part of the trial here: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-01-46.asp)

The "Van Vliet" name is, of course, equally interesting. But I believe I read in the Mike Barnes biography that Don just arbitrarily added the "Van" to his surname to appear more mysterious.

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The "Van Vliet" name is, of course, equally interesting. But I believe I read in the Mike Barnes biography that Don just arbitrarily added the "Van" to his surname to appear more mysterious.

I remember an interview where FZ alluded to the same, about the name Van being thrown in.

As for the former, we were taught in school about the Russian land grab and lots of the atrocities that we thought were Nazi's, really were the Russian's doings after WWII. Stalin killed a lot more of his people than Hitler. We used it as propaganda against the Ruskies during the Cold War, so I learned the right stuff in HS back then. It is Berkeley, CA. HS after all. :wink:
My uncle A. Z. was in on the first wave of US troops into Berlin and right to Der Bunker itself. Same day he shook hands with the Ruskies for the press and stuff. More propaganda. He stayed on during the reconstruction period. He was in stationed in Germany for 6 yrs. after the war that I know of. He went in '43 and sent straight over there.(Italy) He sent home post cards chronicling that time on. Very interesting reading and all on postcards, so each picture/PC he tells a personal story or the history of the place itself, all from Italy, France and Germany, through the end of the war until he left in '55 or so. Very cool stuff! 8) :)

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Van der Vliet is a Dutch last name. It means "of the stream". Although it's not entirely unheard of for location names (like "of the mountain" or "of the plough") to lose the "of the", Vliet alone is not very common. Neither is Van Vliet. It probably happened when Beefheart went to the States, some of these words got gobbled up by whoever wrote down their name.

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http://news.yahoo.com/cyclist-driver-di ... 58620.html

The driver must have had one too many drinks. Now if he had just one super bowl, that might not have happened at all. :wink: :lol:

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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/cyclist-driver-didn-39-t-see-stuck-windshield-163758620.html

The driver must have had one too many drinks. Now if he had just one super bowl, that might not have happened at all. :wink: :lol:


Completely understandable, there are just so many distractions in todays modern cars, who has time to look out of the windshield when you are simultaneously shaving, eating breakfast, watching a movie, checking your e mails and following the directions on the sat nav, not to mention reading the liner notes of your latest Zappa release whilst reloading the cd stacker....cyclist what cyclist :wink:


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ANOTHER Marlboro Man dies from smoking-related lung disease

Eric Lawson portrayed iconic cigarette-puffing cowboy from 1978 to 1981
His death follows those of Marlboro Men, David Millar, who died of emphysema in 1987, and David McLean, who died of lung cancer in 1995
Lawson also featured in hit US TV show Beretta, Charlie's Angels and Baywatch
Later appeared in anti-smoking commercial that parodied Marlboro man
Died aged 72 on January 10 from smoking-related respiratory failure

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A little nostalgia, enjoy

http://www.list.co.uk/article/58248-fra ... -composer/


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Cool read & listen Gray Ghost. :D

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Justin Bieber’s Wax Statue Has Been Groped To Death

The Bieber likeness on display at Tussauds New York on West 42nd Street has been groped, fondled and grabbed by so many excited fans that exhibit organizers have had to withdraw the dummy from display.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/11/jus ... ?hpt=hp_t5

http://pagesix.com/2014/02/10/even-just ... ting-down/

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Sewer was blocked by large Pooh

Winnie the Pooh teddy among objects found in Scotland sewers

A large Winnie the Pooh teddy, a bike, a fax machine, jeans and a snake were among a host of bizarre items found in Scotland's sewers last year.

Scottish Water said it dealt with more than 40,000 blockages in the drains and sewer network.

Most were caused by people putting things such as cooking oil, nappies and baby wipes down sinks and toilets.

It is running an awareness campaign to highlight the issue, which it said creates costs of more than £7m a year.

A series of television and radio adverts will urge householders to dispose of kitchen and bathroom waste responsibly.

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