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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:36 pm 
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I wanted to know what the exact quote was when Frank Zappa said something like "Without deviation from the norm, there is no progress" Also does anyone know when or in what context he said this? Thanks


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fz, in trfz book wrote:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . .deviation from the norm

one of the things i've said before in interviews is: without deviation (from the norm), 'progress' is not possible...in order for one to deviate successfully, one has to have at least a passing acquaintance with whatever norm one expects to deviate from

when a musician comes into my band, he already knows sets of musical norms, the drummers know all the drumbeat norms (how to play disco, how to play a shuffle, how to play fatback etc etc), bass players know all the bass player norms (thumb pops, walking lines, 'traditional' ostinatos, etc etc)... those are today's radio music norms; part of the fun in preparing touring arrangements is nuking those norms

the place where one finds the least enthusiasm for norm-nuking is in the world of the symphony orchestra...if you hand an orchestral musician a piece of...


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HotRats3 wrote:
I wanted to know what the exact quote was when Frank Zappa said something like "Without deviation from the norm, there is no progress" Also does anyone know when or in what context he said this? Thanks


The earliest I heard him say it was 1970 in a VPRO TV interview

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