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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:40 am 
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when I found Franks quote about punk and/or New Wave on the Halloween DVD-A Radio interveiw, where he says the he likes "Devo, Blondie and the Stranglers".<br><br>No surprise to you? I mean, he never seemed to count much for those kind of contemporary pop. OTOH, at that time he himself came closest to this kind of music. For instance on Sheik or Joes Garage. <br>Whaddaya think?

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Well, The Stranglers are not exactly pop, y'know....He also liked the B52's when they first came out, as well as Lene Lovich(ok, more new-wavey) and Nina Hagen.

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Well he himself said that there is no right or wrong way to make music...you just try something and see if it works (or something like that)...<br><br>Its documented that he wasn't a big fan of the punk movement but he was also not a fan of catagorising. Whats good is good and what's good is different for different people. And that's all there is to it really.


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if he liked devo why did he say in tinsel town rebellion
"and plastic groups" followed by a devo quote "WHIP IT GOOD!"


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if he liked devo why did he say in tinsel town rebellion
"and plastic groups" followed by a devo quote "WHIP IT GOOD!"

Zappa connects all kinds of often seemingly disparate things together without necessarily using one to comment on the other. Like the use of the My Sharona bass line in the overdubs of Cruising With Reuben And The Jets or the intro Petrouchka theme on Absolutely Free.

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polydigm wrote:
Zappa connects all kinds of often seemingly disparate things together without necessarily using one to comment on the other. Like the use of the My Sharona bass line in the overdubs of Cruising With Reuben And The Jets or the intro Petrouchka theme on Absolutely Free.


the 'my sharona' bass line was used for the overdub of 'flower punk' on 'we're only in it for the money'.

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polydigm wrote:
Zappa connects all kinds of often seemingly disparate things together without necessarily using one to comment on the other. Like the use of the My Sharona bass line in the overdubs of Cruising With Reuben And The Jets or the intro Petrouchka theme on Absolutely Free.


the 'my sharona' bass line was used for the overdub of 'flower punk' on 'we're only in it for the money'.

Oops.
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polydigm wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
if he liked devo why did he say in tinsel town rebellion
"and plastic groups" followed by a devo quote "WHIP IT GOOD!"

Zappa connects all kinds of often seemingly disparate things together without necessarily using one to comment on the other.


yaeh i know, but saying "plastic groups" followed a devo quote, especially considering the context of the song, doesnt seem disparate. is "groups that sound real queer" followed by "ill tumble for you" not connected aswell? look at the song and what he's saying, obviously its connected.


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Raoul Duke wrote:
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if he liked devo why did he say in tinsel town rebellion
"and plastic groups" followed by a devo quote "WHIP IT GOOD!"

Zappa connects all kinds of often seemingly disparate things together without necessarily using one to comment on the other.


yaeh i know, but saying "plastic groups" followed a devo quote, especially considering the context of the song, doesnt seem disparate. is "groups that sound real queer" followed by "ill tumble for you" not connected aswell? look at the song and what he's saying, obviously its connected.

You're probably right, in fact I assumed that myself, but I'd also read somewhere that Zappa liked Devo and thought that maybe the song itself was relevant. Although, having just googled the lyrics, they don't seem relevant at all.

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There's also often a big difference between what a band will do for a 'hit' and what they do otherwise. Especially back when the major's had $$ to . . . quite literally, blow. "Whip It Good" was THE major push by Warner Bros in the 'new wave' genre for a certain season all those years ago. You couldn't really get away from it. This is an example of typical Hollywood/Warner Bros et al Market Over-Saturation which the plasticization label sticks to quite nicely. Earlier material of DEVO's was more 'punky' and more one-of-a-kind, especially for it's time.
The radio show I've heard where Frank explains that he likes theStranglers, Blondie and DEVO is after DEVO's first album, which didn't exactly race up the charts or have the dripping accolades of tinseltown's finest fawning over it. It wasn't a disco poodle with a plastic flower pot for a hat.

Mongoloid by Devo:
"Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
Happier than you and me
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
And it determined what he could see
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
One chromosome too many
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
And it determined what he could see
And he wore a hat
And he had a job
And he brought home the bacon
So that no one knew
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
His friends were unaware
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
Nobody even cared"

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polydigm wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
if he liked devo why did he say in tinsel town rebellion
"and plastic groups" followed by a devo quote "WHIP IT GOOD!"

Zappa connects all kinds of often seemingly disparate things together without necessarily using one to comment on the other. Like the use of the My Sharona bass line in the overdubs of Cruising With Reuben And The Jets or the intro Petrouchka theme on Absolutely Free.


Because the musical quote represents an entire culture, not just the musical artist.


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A big surprise to me was Tim McGraw. I mean, who buys that shit?


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A big surprise to me was Tim McGraw. I mean, who buys that shit?
Who's "TimMcGraw"? (Fuck "Google"!)

--Bat :wink: 8)

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Zappa experienced, first-hand, how record companies
like to dictate a bands/artists output to generate $.

He had low regard for 'trend driven' and record company manipulated
music. ie: Angel!


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Batchain1001 wrote:
calvin2hikers wrote:
A big surprise to me was Tim McGraw. I mean, who buys that shit?
Who's "TimMcGraw"? (Fuck "Google"!)

--Bat :wink: 8)


Tim McGraw is a country singer.

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His dad's Tug McGraw:

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suterb wrote:
Batchain1001 wrote:
calvin2hikers wrote:
A big surprise to me was Tim McGraw. I mean, who buys that shit?
Who's "TimMcGraw"? (Fuck "Google"!)

--Bat :wink: 8)


Tim McGraw is a country singer.

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His dad's Tug McGraw:

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Whoa! I didn't know that! Tug McGraw was so cool - what happened?

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Whoa! I didn't know that! Tug McGraw was so cool - what happened?


If my memory serves, Tug died of brain cancer a few years ago.

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suterb wrote:
feetlightup wrote:
Whoa! I didn't know that! Tug McGraw was so cool - what happened?


If my memory serves, Tug died of brain cancer a few years ago.


Hmmm...it's interesting how these subject threads seem to just dovetail into nothingness...

BTW: the Stranglers are definitely worth checking out.
Another group FZ would bandy about in interviews around that time was "The Slits". Though, I think he got more of a rise from mentioning their name on the air than actually listening to their records. ;-)


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Raoul Duke wrote:
if he liked devo why did he say in tinsel town rebellion
"and plastic groups" followed by a devo quote "WHIP IT GOOD!"
That's just what they were called: a plastic group. It was their label. Maybe he really liked their first album which is, without a doubt, their best. If they had stayed doing that kind of music they'd have been better off, but they also had to follow their music and sociological theory which demanded they de-evolve and become more generic. Sad.

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BTW: the Stranglers are definitely worth checking out.


I'll second that.

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What about boy george :oops:
on dhbim just before bobby brown song "do you really want to hurt me" 8)
i was just listening to zappa on radio one and he plays ZZ top :?
tried posting it of the link from earlier today but it is coming out weird.like when i preview it goes back to Post a reply page which turns blank :shock:

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cleon wrote:
What about boy george :oops:
on dhbim just before bobby brown song "do you really want to hurt me" 8)
i was just listening to zappa on radio one and he plays ZZ top :?
tried posting it of the link from earlier today but it is coming out weird.like when i preview it goes back to Post a reply page which turns blank :shock:
Frank probably liked ZZ Top...who knows? He was a big blues fan, and ZZ Top had some blues influences. IF the music was good, Frank was happy.

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i don't know :? they seem a bit basic but hay.maybe

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i don't know :? they seem a bit basic but hay.maybe


Frank was known to hit a disco once in a while too when he was in New York. :oops: :) Or at least that's what I heard.

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big suprise to me was when I read today in TRFZ Book that he was in prison :shock: hilarious

what a man god bless him

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