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 Post subject: Re: zappa on life
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:43 am 
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[quote author=LumpyGravy link=board=quotes;num=1036796674;start=0#14 date=06/05/03 at 13:21:45]Ok, this topic might be a good place for this.  <br>This is Zappa's thoughts on the subject of "time".<br>In the Zappa! Magazine (from 1992, publ. by Guitar Player), he said this: <br> <br>FZ: "I think that everything is happening all the time, and the only reason we think of time linearly is because we are conditioned to do it. That's because the human idea of stuff is: it has a beginning and it has an end. I don't think that's necessarily true. You think of time as a constant, a spherical constant... [in which]... everything's happening all the time, always did, always will... <br>We're dealing with time in a quasi-practical manner. We have devised our own personal universe and lifestyle that is ruled by time sliced this way, and we progress from notch to notch, day by day, and you just learn to meet your deadlines that way. That's only for human convenience. That, to me, is not a good explanation of how things really work. That's only the human perception version of how things work. It seems just as feasible to me that everything is happening all the time. And whether you believe your coffee cup is full or not is irrelevant... What something is depends more on when it is than anything else. You can't define something accurately until you understand when it is. [...] When is what. Without the perfect understanding of when, you've got nothing to deal with, see? 'Cause you analyze that cup of coffee a little bit earlier, and it's full. In a few minutes, you'll kick it over, and it won't even exist anymore. The state of the cup is determined by when you're perceiving it. [...] <br>And the reason why I feel so strongly about this is, you know, this is one of the better explanations for why people can have premonitions, because instead of looking ahead, they're just looking around. You don't have to look ahead to see the future. You can look over there." <br><br>(I posted this under the "The Meaning of Life"-thread a couple of weeks ago, but no one has posted any kind of reaction to it, so I'll try again here!)  ;)[/quote]<br><br>I did never read this before. It really strock me.<br>In fact, I have recently read "The End of Time" by Julian Barbour. He defends the idea that time (intended as a physical entity) does not exist. <br>It is impossible to resume this in short, as it is a consequence of the interpretation of quantum mechanics have. <br><br>So, have a look of Barbour's site:<br>www.platonia.com<br><br>However, Frank's ideas that things happen all time, the linearity of time is a human perception and his idea of the future "people can have premonitions, because instead of looking ahead, they're just looking around" are all embodied in Barbour's theory.<br>Wonderful. Also if you take into account that Frank dedicated his "The Real Frank Zappa Book" to Stephen Hawking (who considers that time exists though).

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:15 pm 
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[quote author=food link=board=quotes;num=1036796674;start=0#0 date=11/08/02 at 15:04:34]... Now imagine a Moebius vortex inside a spherical constant, and you've got my cosmology....[/quote]<br><br>[table][tr][td]Image[/td][/tr][tr][td][center]bring my suit on down behind me boys[/center][/td][/tr][/table]

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:52 am 
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[quote author=slime.oofytv.set link=board=quotes;num=1036796674;start=15#26 date=09/12/05 at 15:15:16]<br><br>[table][tr][td]Image[/td][/tr][tr][td][center]bring my suit on down behind me boys[/center][/td][/tr][/table][/quote]<br><br><br>Damn! Should have made a duck out of this one!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:05 am 
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People who don't have an outlet often turn to violence-like those All-American bubbas who can't get laid & express themselves by pounding the snot out of each other in the parking lot of the neighborhood bar.

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[quote author=Sebastiaan link=board=quotes;num=1036796674;start=15#27 date=09/12/05 at 16:56:17]<br><br>Even if you've never heard of FZ, this picture should make you really curious about this weird man and the music he plays...<br> ;D ;D[/quote]<br><br><br>or really scared of the strange man and his music

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[quote author=Sebastiaan link=board=quotes;num=1036796674;start=15#27 date=09/12/05 at 16:56:17]<br><br>Even if you've never heard of FZ, this picture should make you really curious about this weird man and the music he plays...<br> ;D ;D[/quote]<br><br><br>or really scared of the strange man in the snappy suit

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PAGE 230:The Real Frank Zappa Book:"People who don't have an outlet often turn to violence-like those All-American bubbas who can't get laid & express themselves by pounding the snot out of each other in the parking lot of the neighborhood bar."

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