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 Post subject: What's Amazing...
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:52 pm 
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The fact that Frank wrote such complex music is not nearly so amzing as the fact that he was able to get people to actually play it.<br><br>NC

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 Post subject: Re: What's Amazing...
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:31 am 
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What's also amazing is that he was able to get people to actually buy it, too. I mean, look at all the bands that came up around the time he did. Very few have had the longevity he had.

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 Post subject: Re: What's Amazing...
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He was a brilliant businessman.  He certainly made the most out of a small crowd!

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 Post subject: Re: What's Amazing...
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 7:09 am 
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Personally, I'd like to think that the crowd is actually larger than they'd like to admit.

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 Post subject: Re: What's Amazing...
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Well so long as we all keep blasting this music into our friends ears, the potential audience can only grow and grow!

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 Post subject: Re: What's Amazing...
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:52 pm 
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[quote author=Billy link=board=quotes;num=1115794352;start=0#3 date=05/12/05 at 10:09:32]Personally, I'd like to think that the crowd is actually larger than they'd like to admit.[/quote]<br><br>I can't help but agree with that, though a lot of those people probably don't even listen to the music.


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Looking out of the plane window, high above the clouds listening to Zappa.


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Why is it so amazing that Zappa sold records and had other musician's perform his work?

Anyone with an authentic sense of what intelligence really is would intuitively understand what Frank meant to the world of creativity and imagination...

It always appeared to me that a man of this stature "had" to be present at this specific time.
The reason being is that intellect at this point in time, whether we agree or not, is at a point of understanding from a wider range of mentally adjustable individuals regardless of their environmental upbringing.


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Also, his contemporaries were the likes of Hendrix, Clapton, Grand Funk, Dylan...(the list is long), unique musicians and exceptional songwriters...he was able to reach a generation of people who were buying new sounds, a generation who's ears were open.

(er....maybe the chemical amusement aids used by said generation was a factor too?)


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Eric Vaxxine wrote:
(er....maybe the chemical amusement aids used by said generation was a factor too?)


i hate it when people use drugs as an eccuse as to why people are open minded. its like for people to say to young people, "yeah you could be open minded and crwative, but that would mean youd have to take drugs! you dont want that, do you? no, so just go be a docile consumer, get a shitty job, be ignorant all your life, maybe support a couple wars every now and then and then die."


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 Post subject: Re: What's Amazing...
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What's also amazing is that he was able to get people to actually buy it, too. I mean, look at all the bands that came up around the time he did. Very few have had the longevity he had.

I've heard it said that the Mothers' popularity with the biker crowd kept them going, since the band's looks, language and ideology didn't appeal to the love generation. (Hey, Punk, where you going with that flower in your hair? Fuck, fuck rock and roll, fuckfuckfuck!)

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[quote="just plain dougFuck, fuck rock and roll, fuckfuckfuck![/quote]

do you mean "rock, bop, rock & roll"


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 Post subject: Re: What's Amazing...
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Raoul Duke wrote:
do you mean "rock, bop, rock & roll"

Don't say that! Those lyrics are the only reason I got into Zappa!
Next you'll be trying to tell Dylan's song doesn't go "The ants are my friends. They're blowing in the wind"!

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Raoul Duke wrote:
Eric Vaxxine wrote:
(er....maybe the chemical amusement aids used by said generation was a factor too?)


i hate it when people use drugs as an eccuse as to why people are open minded. quote]

I was not suggesting that all open minded people are like that because of drug use and FZ is a good example.


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I agree that it is amazing that Zappa was able to teach musicians to play such challenging music.

It seems that Frank became a master of knowing what a musician was capable of and then moulding the part to them. I've read a really cool interview with Ed Mann and I thought it was interesting that Ed Mann wasn't a really strong sight reader, but some of the stuff he played in the Zappa band is just nuts. He says something like if he couldn't get a part right, Zappa would always just say "I know you can do it. Come back in a couple of weeks... then do it."


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It's really amazing how the Zappa catalogue continue to sell. In this way, Frank is still with us as a force that counts, and that even more than most contemporary acts. His music still seems relevant, and I think this will be the case for decades to come. In my part of the world, nobody buys Peter Frampton. A considerable number of people buy Zappa.


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