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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:48 am 
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Hi Zappa fans,

I'm new here & I'd like to share a freshly baked Zappa-esque track with you guys,
it's not a cover of one of Zappa's works,
just a track that I hope sounds like a vibrant tribute to Zappa's genius :mrgreen:

please come & give it an ear (or 2) over-here :

http://www.box.net/shared/org9phtl3f

it was born out of a spontaneous collaboration between 2 guys who've never met each other :D
I live in France & Annode in the US,
I heard a track that he announced as a "Zappa-esk goof-off" on the KVR audio forum,
(where audio plug-ins & music gear are discussed)
I thought that his track was awesome,
very fresh, inspired & inspiring & very Zappa-esque indeed :shock:

here's the link to Annode's post where you can hear his original track :
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=294714

(so without telling/asking him anything)
I decided to add/overdub some drums & percussions
(with a midi drumkit & a sprinkle of midi editing & some sequencing)
& then some guitar (that I played on my midi keyboard :P )
& I sent the resulting mix to Annode who happened to like what I did :mrgreen:

then I added some bass (that I also played on my midi keyboard + a sprinkle (quite a lot actually :P ) of midi editing)
Annode liked the bass too :mrgreen:
but we agreed that some time-keeping elements would be welcome to attenuate the allovertheplaceness of my drumming a bit,
but just a weeny bit ...
so I added some tambourine & shakers ...

I'm not here to sell anything :mrgreen:
I just want to share the love of Zappa with this "Chris Papple Jam" :mrgreen:

Any kind of feedback is welcome 8)

blessings,

Tao


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:00 pm 
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taotekid wrote:
Any kind of feedback is welcome 8)


let me rephrase that :

Any feedback, comment or advice would be much appreciated ... please !? :P


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:35 pm 
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..honestly now?

...let me finish with the first mug...


...don't quiet sure where the japanezer and the band of kitchen drummers have met the airy harp, but it's a lil bit too new-wave age-ish this earl'. Some Ozric Tentacles were involved? then i'd say it's okay. Llllol.

Hey, could sort of promise that I plan to give it so many tries till those audio-perceptive regions in that upper loft begin to swing with some of their feelers.

..ey, that wasn't rock n roll, or wo? sounded so much more ...ah, the coffee with a second helping. Some birds are up and about too. I'll speak to them.

"We have never before heard this kind of charming air. Ooh-la-la."

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:36 am 
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Couldn't recall one gipsy fiddler solo a-wailing, like that a lot.

..still no mustering up some nerves for a roaring review. Just you put up another sample for good measure, and lyrics will rush and spring to the fore. Now we are nestling a bit expectantly for the encore, my words.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:07 am 
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hey ! thanks for listening, Sir ! :mrgreen:

& many thanks for the feedback !
english is not my native language,
but from what I managed to gather reading you, you did enjoy the track :lol:
& I also deciphered some encouragements coming from you,
it's very nice & much fun reading from you : )


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:39 pm 
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Location: Pouting for you? Punky Meadows, pouting for you?!!
Unfortunately for you the only person who's bothered to reply is the forum nutcase. He has multiple personalities all of whom speak some variety of psychobabble. I've listened to Chris Papple Jam and I think it's good, I like it.

Now, it's possible you won't be back because your last post here was "Why are we moving so slow?" back in Dec 2010, but having just listened to this track I thought I should comment.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:30 pm 
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Location: Billy, the mountain...
Wow, there he is, online...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:42 pm 
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thank you for the feedback Polydigm ! :)

& it's true that I don't come often over here,
I created an account to post that track in the hope of getting feedback from Zappa fans,
so I really appreciate you giving me some :D
but my last post was actually this, I know it's off topic but, these are worth it :

here are 2 brilliant documentaries,
really powerful 'don't eat the yellow snow' kind of stuff :

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"A deep, richly illustrated study of the nature and history of propaganda, featuring some of the world's most insightful critics".
- Mark Achbar; Film director; 'Manufacturing Consent', 'The Corporation'

"Psywar exposes the propaganda system, providing crucial background and insight into the control of information and thought."
- Kim Petersen, Dissident Voice

"An Important work"
- Russ Baker, Journalist, Author "Family of Secrets"

"Must See"
- Tom Feeley, Information Clearing House

"Encyclopedic and riveting"
- Stephen Marshall, Guerrilla News Network

"Truly excellent"
- William Blum, journalist, Author 'Killing Hope'

"A Lucid and insightful study of the manipulation of public consciousness...Take heed."
- Michael Yates, Associate Editor, Monthly Review

"If it is your desire to understand how we are manipulated into believing the things we do -
- watch this film. Every American should see it...for the sake of our future."
- Timothy Gatto, fmr Chairman, Liberal Party of America

you can watch it here :

http://vimeo.com/14772678

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“Brilliant…Riveting…The amount of material the filmmaker covers and unifies is astounding…
Human Resources diagnoses the 20th century.”
- Stephen Soldz, Professor, Boston Graduate School of Psychoanalysis; President, Psychologists for Social Responsibility

"Powerful…Must See…It will leave you Spellbound.”
- Andrew Goliszek, Author, In the Name of Science:A History of Secret Programs, Medical Research, and Human Experimentation

“An important work…terrifiying in its implications….
Human Resources is a must see for those of us who still take democracy seriously.”
- Bruce E. Levine, Author Commonsense Rebellion:Taking Back Your Life from Drugs, Shrinks, Corporations, and a World Gone Crazy

“It scared the shit out of me…A powerful and methodical
dissection of the dominant culture.”
- Derrick Jensen, Author, Endgame

“A masterful examination of the mechanization of human existence…
It is a rare occasion when watching a film can help open not only our eyes, but our minds.”
- Andrew Marshall, Centre for Research on Globalization

“A Masterpiece. Unless you weep, you may be damaged by this film.
Viewer discretion, and love, advised.
- David Ker Thomson, Professor, Language and Thinking Program at Bard College

"Scott Noble's work is a pioneering development in documentary filmmaking in its content,
documentary technique, and even distribution method. Watch his stuff, use it, and build on it."
- Chris Simpson, Professor, School of Communication, American University

you can watch it here :

http://vimeo.com/17223990

these films are not for sale, you can watch/download/share them freely,
& more will be coming :

http://metanoia-films.org/index.php

Peace

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& the same film-makes also released this since then,
a must-see in this day & age :

http://vimeo.com/20355767

"Lifting the Veil is the long overdue film that powerfully, definitively, and finally exposes the deadly 21st century hypocrisy of U.S. internal and external policies, even as it imbues the viewer with a sense of urgency and an actualized hope to bring about real systemic change while there is yet time for humanity and this planet. See this film!"

Larry Pinkney
Editorial Board Member & Columnist
The Black Commentator

“Lifting the Veil is a major contribution to political documentary. It teaches everyone from the uninitiated to the most sophisticated the true nature of the American government... It covers the issues clearly and succinctly, from the opening narrative through to its stirring conclusion.”

Ralph Poynter
lynne stewart defense committee
new abolitionist movement

"The best political film I've seen to date. A must watch if you want to understand who and what Obama is about, as well as this hypocrisy they call democracy."

Kiilu Nyasha
Independent Journalist and former member of the Black Panther Party
"A wonderful, powerful film"

Leah Bolger
National Vice President, Veterans for Peace

"In less than two hours, documentarian Scott Noble eviscerates the myth of the American dream, laying bare the grinning, skeletal greed at its core. It’s the best single compilation we’ve yet seen on the corruption that has demolished the American commons and the lives of billions across the globe."

Richard Brenneman
eats shoots 'n leaves

"Noble is brilliantly pioneering the new film-making -- incisive analysis, compelling sound and footage, fearless and independent reporting, and the aggregation of the best information out there into powerful, educational and free online feature films – all on a shoestring budget. His films educate and inform while building the movements needed for real change at the grassroots. Noble's films are dedicated to democracy; they fan the flames of non-violent, people-powered revolution."

John Stauber, Founder, PR Watch


& it's OK, any nutcase is welcome :)

"God help the winos, the junkies
& the weirdos & every poor soul
who's adrift in the storm."


Blessings :)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:49 pm 
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hehe, I had ticked the "Notify me when a reply is posted" box, Mr Green Genes,
& also, Polydigm manually sent me a PM notification too, which was very nice :D


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:03 am 
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It was great, but it was too Zappa-like. It sounded pretty much exactly like Zappa (with the exception of the beginning.) There was no Zappa-esque lol, it was exactly like Zappa. And i don't know if that's a good or a bad thing.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:11 pm 
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thanks for listening & for the feedback, fUNK_iS_LiFE. :mrgreen:

I'll take it as a compliment, if you don't mind,
an encouraging sign which gives me hope that this tribute reaches Frank's cosmic ears & heart : )


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:34 am 
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I like it - what instruments did you use?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:14 pm 
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I'm glad you like it, Boris : )

the drums are XLN's Addictive Drums that I played on my DTXpress II midi drumkit,
(& I should add that I recorded some bits at a slower tempo)
the percussions are from Native Instruments' Kontakt
& I used xoxos' wonderful Hyperion to program/generate the percussion parts,
the guitar is Pettinhouse's very sweet WarmJazzFREE, which I played through Line 6's PODFarm amp simulation,
the bass is Orange Tree Sample's awesome Iconic Bass: Jaco,
I played those 2 on my Line 6 TonePort KB37 midi keyboard, which is also my audio interface : )

& Annode explains (in this thread : http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=294714 ) :

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My solo sound models how he will play a series of notes i'll meekly call a scale...
and he'll switch instruments as those notes are played. Clearly in 'Get Whitey'

I did something similar by using 4 different layered sounds. By chance and not by my design,they have slight differences to their velocity ranges.
This is giving somewhat of the effect of different instruments picking up different notes.
I have done this by design in the past and has worked out extremely well.

These 3 sounds and the 'noises' I combined just by chance. It sounded like a Zappa lead sound, so I gave it a go.
- Pettinhouse 'classical guitar'
- Pettinhouse classical guitar 'noises'
- Kalimba (marimba would be the Zappa choice)
Above in Kontakt
- Native Instruments - FM7 - MW Boost (factory preset bank)


you can easily find info on all those instruments online : )


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