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 Post subject: Aynsley Dunbar
PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:37 pm 
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Was listening to 200 motels last night and it reminded (like I needed reminding) just how excellent he was.
I love his style. Very much in tune with Mitch Mitchell's rock drumming when he started out with Hendrix.
What I like about Dunbar is that he was still drumming in a similar style in '70 / '71 on a small kit and hadn't gone over to double bass drum like many others. Mitchell changed his style dramatically by '70 and I always preferred his earlier style. That said, his drumming on a song like Freedom is very groovy and I can't knock it either on a song like Machine Gun. Hmm it's pretty awesome on that live version of Hear my Train a Comin' from Berkely '70 too. Overall though I prefer his earlier fluid style.

Back to Dunbar, Some highlights from 200 motels for me of the top of my head are the She Painted up her Face sequence, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy and What will this evening bring me.... those opening blasts are everything that I like about those super talented drummers of the day.
I need to mention Transylvania Boogie and Chungas Revenge from the album of the same name here because the drumming is so damn good. Ooh yes, and the Nancy and Mary Music (fuck me!). The list goes on.....

Dunbar's tenure in the Mothers fascinates me for some reason. This English boy from Liverpool winding up playing with Zappa.

Dunbar seems to have been so versatile that it is mind blowing for me, as an ex-drummer. I love how he adapted his sound and style from those early years with the Mothers and the Flo and Eddie line up to the more Jazzier and less busy sound heard on WJ and TGW. Frank achieved what would possibly be my ultimate drum sound on these two albums too. The overall production of the whole band is staggeringly good, particularly on the original vinyl - a friend has the CD of WJ and it doesn't even come close.

Praise to you Aynsley.

Does anyone know of an interview where Aynsely talks about his time with Zappa?
I don't feel that it is covered very much at all yet he was a big part of Zappa's early 70's mucial life

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i love his drumming!

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My cousin, Alistair Greene has been jamming with Aynsley for the last few years in his Blues band. Alistair recorded with Aynsley on his 2008 SPV Records release ‘Mutiny’. He now plays in the Allan Parson's project. Ive heard a lot of great things about him. Totally down to earth guy. Hopefully I will meet him next time I'm in LA and for sure will ask him about his time with Frank. They share the same studio. I always loved his style

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thenoisydrum wrote:
...Very much in tune with Mitch Mitchell's rock drumming when he started out with Hendrix....

Incidentally your comparision reminds me of a story i heard about the founding of the experience (100 years ago, so i can't provide a source): They had to choose between two drummers, the choice was done by throwing a coin. The second drummer was Dunbar!

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His drum tone is my favorite of all Zappa drummers!

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aynsley rocks & swings all over the place on who are the brain police from disconnetcted synapses... he also played one of the leanest drum setups; 3 or 4 drums / 3 or 4 cymbals

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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thenoisydrum wrote:

Does anyone know of an interview where Aynsely talks about his time with Zappa?


The Zappa! special issue of Guitar Player (the one with the long FZ interview by Don Menn and Matt Groening) had a single-page interview with Aynsley. He didn't say much very interesting there as I recall.

Check out Journey's albums with Dunbar (at least the first album). There is some drumming there similar to what he did with Zappa.


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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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pbuzby wrote:
thenoisydrum wrote:

Does anyone know of an interview where Aynsely talks about his time with Zappa?


The Zappa! special issue of Guitar Player (the one with the long FZ interview by Don Menn and Matt Groening) had a single-page interview with Aynsley. He didn't say much very interesting there as I recall.

Check out Journey's albums with Dunbar (at least the first album). There is some drumming there similar to what he did with Zappa.

Here is that interview enjoy
http://www.afka.net/images/Magazines/19 ... %20018.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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pbuzby wrote:
The Zappa! special issue of Guitar Player (the one with the long FZ interview by Don Menn and Matt Groening) had a single-page interview with Aynsley. He didn't say much very interesting there as I recall.



what does it take to entertain you?

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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manichispanic wrote:
pbuzby wrote:
The Zappa! special issue of Guitar Player (the one with the long FZ interview by Don Menn and Matt Groening) had a single-page interview with Aynsley. He didn't say much very interesting there as I recall.



what does it take to entertain you?


It was pretty much a lot of "Frank is so great" talk (as was most of the rest of that issue aside from the FZ interview). Oh well.


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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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yeah, and he wouldn't know, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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To me, a drummer who was around for many of the one-off gigs of the Hot Rats period, the MOI "reunion" tour, the entire Flo & Eddie phase and the "jazz" albums of 1972, played with John and Yoko, and was the first drummer to understand how to play behind FZ's guitar solos, should have more interesting things to offer than a page of "Frank was so great."

But if you like it, don't let my non-enjoyment trouble you.


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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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pbuzby wrote:
The Zappa! special issue of Guitar Player (the one with the long FZ interview by Don Menn and Matt Groening) had a single-page interview with Aynsley. He didn't say much very interesting there as I recall.

I like they way he says that zappa used to introduce him to people.
something like: "this is aynsley. he sounds like two drummers."

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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ursinator wrote:
thenoisydrum wrote:
...Very much in tune with Mitch Mitchell's rock drumming when he started out with Hendrix....

Incidentally your comparision reminds me of a story i heard about the founding of the experience (100 years ago, so i can't provide a source): They had to choose between two drummers, the choice was done by throwing a coin. The second drummer was Dunbar!


Yes, I wonder if that was true? We'll probably never know

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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thenoisydrum wrote:

Yes, I wonder if that was true? We'll probably never know

I cannot remember whereever i heard the story, but i already was Fan of both at that time, Hendrix and Zappa. I just thougt things like: which way history also could have taken, or: good decision for Zappa...
But meanwhile Internet swept the ocean and i actually found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aynsley_Dunbar
where u can read: "He auditioned for The Jimi Hendrix Experience and Hendrix had difficulty deciding between Dunbar and Mitch Mitchell - the latter won Hendrix's coin flip."
So i am not the only one who heard the story :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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ursinator wrote:
thenoisydrum wrote:

Yes, I wonder if that was true? We'll probably never know

I cannot remember whereever i heard the story, but i already was Fan of both at that time, Hendrix and Zappa. I just thougt things like: which way history also could have taken, or: good decision for Zappa...
But meanwhile Internet swept the ocean and i actually found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aynsley_Dunbar
where u can read: "He auditioned for The Jimi Hendrix Experience and Hendrix had difficulty deciding between Dunbar and Mitch Mitchell - the latter won Hendrix's coin flip."
So i am not the only one who heard the story :wink:


I'd like to have been a fly on the wall during those two auditions. How else could Hendrix have chosen?

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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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ursinator wrote:
thenoisydrum wrote:

Yes, I wonder if that was true? We'll probably never know

I cannot remember whereever i heard the story, but i already was Fan of both at that time, Hendrix and Zappa. I just thougt things like: which way history also could have taken, or: good decision for Zappa...
But meanwhile Internet swept the ocean and i actually found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aynsley_Dunbar
where u can read: "He auditioned for The Jimi Hendrix Experience and Hendrix had difficulty deciding between Dunbar and Mitch Mitchell - the latter won Hendrix's coin flip."
So i am not the only one who heard the story :wink:


There was a similar story on who Emerson and Lake ultimately chose to complete their new trio. Could have been ELD.


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 Post subject: Re: Aynsley Dunbar
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Actually no I think it was Mitchell Emerson and Lake were considering.

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